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Title: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 11:38am
...or does anyone else find it a sad state of affairs that Turbine now has to restart the servers every 7 days to keep them from crashing?
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Luxgolg on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 11:40am
The old TRS-80 III with cassette worked more reliably
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 11:44am
It's fun how they call it a bounce...they should bounce it from the top of a tall building.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Glenalth on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 12:01pm Luxgolg wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 11:40am:
Mine kept running out of RAM. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 12:23pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 11:44am:
;D Do you and Siss play at all? I logged in and played the newest quest line with Grace (there were other people there, but she's the most important since she has boobs) and actually had a good time! Then I was determined to get the chest at the top of the pillars that you have to jumped to and raged at their stupid physics engine. I love GW2 jumping puzzles, but mostly because there aren't invisible walls or a system that you just shoots your character the opposite direction for no reason. The only reason I even log in is to chat with people I miss, I definitely don't miss the gameplay. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 12:48pm wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 12:23pm:
Not very often these days. I've been rocking a lot of PS3 lately when we aren't playing SWTOR. Last time I tried the game wouldn't patch so I had to delete and redownload the whole fucking thing. By the time that finished, I had lost the motivation to play. Most of the people I like hanging with are gone. We were talking about logging in and having a drunken raid night. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 12:55pm
That would be fun! Let me know if you decide to do it!
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by livefreeordie on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 1:08pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 11:38am:
wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 12:23pm:
This month's monthly achievement is Jumping Puzzles! Ive found I'm addicted to achievements. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Grace on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 1:46pm wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 12:23pm:
/vaginahighfive I was amused listening to you guys try to figure out how to get to the chest. "This is 3." "No, THIS is 3!" "Dammit, I keep bouncing off the wall!" BTW, we're raiding again on Thursday (tomorrow), so clear your schedule. Let's see what fun puggers kmack can find for us! |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Flav on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 2:11pm livefreeordie wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 1:08pm:
Consider that G-Land Crashed yesterday evening ( for Europe ), Consider that the last bounce was thursday, That makes 5 days, not 7. Now consider that a PC under windows will have difficulties to survive more than 7 days without having the urge to reboot on his own. ( while I have proof that a HP-UX or a Solaris system can survive more than 1000 days without a reboot, and perform vital near-real time tasks like phone calls handling. ) Now I remember that in some MMOs there was a reboot planned every week. And in some other every fucking day. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 2:14pm Flav wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 2:11pm:
That is a load of horseshit. Windows is just as stable as any NIX system when competetly administered. I've personally run networks with 99.9% uptime. Flav wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 2:11pm:
Name Them. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by fco-karatekid on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 3:52pm wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 12:23pm:
Don't you love how it waits till you're mid-jump, then decides to not send you some frames for a couple secs? I learned the trick... right before making the jump, close your eyes. You are a more accurate predictor of the physics than their engine 90+% of the time. If you trust the graphics, you will flinch. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:08pm livefreeordie wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 1:08pm:
Yes! Me, too! Although you don't have to complete the jumping puzzles, you just have to find their location. I still got credit on my ranger who has found and completed them all which is nice. I would have raged if I had done them only to miss out on the achievement! |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by qwerty1234 on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:14pm wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:08pm:
What kind of crazy game would lock players out of rewards for things they've already done? Oh, right. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 7:10pm wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:14pm:
That's why I thought I would specify. :D |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Turkantho on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 2:23am Eladiun wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 2:14pm:
EvE Online back when I still played they had a standard daily downtime of 1h, while in reality it was, most of the time, only ~30min. they prolly still have that. we called it the grooming hour |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Flav on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 3:35am Eladiun wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 2:14pm:
I'm talking of unadministered systems... You have to kick a fucking Windows server in the ass regularly to make it run more than a few weeks. While you can just forget about a *nix system if you did the job correctly at installation. So all in all *doz is just like a Prim'Holstein, it's a great milk machine but it needs constant tending and needs to be brought back to the barn in winter, while the more rugged Salers ( *Nix ) can just stay out until the grass is under 20cm of snow and it's well below Freezing. ( yeah I'm making a cow race comparison to make my point. ::) It has to be the Cheese ) Quote:
EQ did that for a while. DAOC too. Nowdays they are calling that maintenance instead of reboot. Because reboot had the feeling that the software was crap and needed that... While maintenance has a feeling of work actually being done. So the Monday maintenance in DDO, when it's 1hour long is just a server reboot. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by ddoplayer064 on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 7:53am Eladiun wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 2:14pm:
For a long time (might still be as far as I know...) EQ2, every Tuesday morning. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 7:59am Flav wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 3:35am:
No you don't. It's a fucking fallacy. It might have been true with NT 4.0. Now it's just an old joke that only idiots and neck bearded Nix Admins still believe. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Azog on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 8:42am
Eladium, it seems to me that you love to land with your face in the mud.
You have a strange hobby. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by AnalBloodfart on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 8:43am wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 8:42am:
Is this like that time he got butthurt over rich people getting shiny stones of xp and he didn't? |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by livefreeordie on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 8:54am wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 6:08pm:
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 9:29am
Azog, it seems to me like no one even gives a fuck that you breathe.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 9:29am NOTdarth wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 8:43am:
Not quite sunshine... keep trying and you may some day make it past the first grade. Is school vacation over soon? It's nice that fanbois feel welcome here now a days. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 9:35am livefreeordie wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 8:54am:
It's because we have been trained to expect the worst and look cynically upon anything different or not DDO. Look at the forums every other MMO sucks and has nothing to offer. DDO is the best or you are a loser. If you aren't actively defending DDO you are a hater. Every thread. 7 years. same fucking story. WoW sucks. Guild Wars sucks. SWTOR sucks. EQ sucks. DDO is the best. Turbine rule. I bring up that DDO now after 7 years of not needing it needs to reboot it's servers once a week and the fanbois come out to defend Turbine. Turbine shits in your mouth and trains you to eat it with a smile on your face. If Turbine was so fucking good how the hell did they fuck up two MMO based on two IP's with the most rabid fans on the planet. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Azog on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 10:44am Eladiun wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 9:29am:
That is totally true. Nevertheless, your hobby is very strange, I repeat. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 11:09am
I am Azog, I am aghast.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by popejubal on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 11:18am Eladiun wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 2:14pm:
What company is administering Turbine's servers? |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Bill Z Bubb on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 11:21am Eladiun wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 7:59am:
Wasn't even true for NT 4. I had servers going for months without rebooting. The Windows Server 2003 machines only needed rebooting due to Windows Updates or a piece of software required it. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by cdr on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 1:08pm
I knew someone who worked in Turbine's data center, years ago. They were pretty top notch then, actually. Dunno about now, but you never know.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Flav on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 1:34pm popejubal wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 11:18am:
Not sure about the administering. The hosting though seems tp be PNAP at one of their Boston Datacenter : http://www.internap.com/colocation-provider-facility-overview/boston-data-center/ At least that's what my Traceroute seems to say. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 1:58pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 9:35am:
Wow does suck (played for 6 months), GW sucked (played for a year), EQ sucks (couldn't be bothered to play it), SWTOR sucks... This is what all my friends who went and played it reported back. The fact that DDO has lasted 7 years (2 of which were spent tied up in a secret law suit resulting in 0 content release) and lasted means they are doing something's right. LoTRO seems to b plugging along fine as well compared to the Conans, and Warhammers of the MMO world. There is plenty I wish Tirbine would do differently and I bitch about it, but I have to give credit where it's due. The only thing more pathetic than a sycophant fanboi is the hypocrit hater. You come off as a bitter old man sitting on his rocker who hits anyone that gets to close with his cane and thinks the nursing staff is trying to kill him. Take a pill Eladiun... The meds should straighten you out. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gunga on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 2:01pm JDollar wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 1:58pm:
Probably not. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 2:01pm Flav wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 1:34pm:
I have a couple of servers in a similar facility in Waltham. They likely just rent a cage and keep their equipment there. The facility provides the large redundant internet pipes, security, multiple redundant power supplies, and high level air quality and climate control. It's much more cost effective for most companies over building your own high end data center. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 2:11pm
As great as my disdain is for Turbine and the current mass of buggy shit the game has become, DDO held my attention far longer than any other game ever has. GW2 is the first MMO that I've played since 2006 that has finally caused me to pretty much stop playing altogether. I think that really says a lot about the game and the community. I have to agree that both have taken a hit recently though.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 2:47pm JDollar wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 1:58pm:
Sure, WoW sucks 10 million people are just wrong. AO 11. WoW 8 EQ 14 SWG even made 9 years. AC 11 Longevity, isn't all that impressive. It doesn't take a whole lot to keep an MMO up and running. As for LOTRO, the AA number was last reported around 200k-250K which I think would be considered a profound disappointment vs expectations for that IP. F2P bounced them over 500k but they were unable to retain a majority of those players and fell back to pre-F2P numbers Age of Conan and Warhammer, they are in the same ballpark as DDO with AA account numbers. __________________________________________________________ Fact's are simple. - Post $160 million WB buyout none of the four founders of Turbine are still with the company - Store cash grabs have increased with once unthinkable items now available. - Quality of the releases has decreased sharply since the buyout - Layoffs - Servers now crash regularly. __________________________________________________________ BTW, you want to know a game that tanked but is actually pretty fun. I've been screwing around in DC Online F2P. Nothing serious just dicking about a hour here or there and it's a well put together game. The combat is unique and fun and the world is visual beautiful. Only played like 10 hours and far from end game but it's a fun little time killer with a lot of different things to do. It's also 2 years old and I find MMO's really hit their stride at two years. It's when they finally have enough content and features to satisfy the masses. The first two years is for die hard fans to stick it out through the growing pains. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 2:49pm wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 2:11pm:
Same here. Although I think some of my issues with other games were more about not finding the social dynamic that makes you stay with an MMO through the slow times. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gunga on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 3:36pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 2:49pm:
I wish I found you in an MMO. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by mystafyi on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 6:21pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 2:01pm:
indeed they do just this. ofc, even with internap providing the majority of backbone folks still think its turbines hardware causing lag issues, when its nothing more then turbines bastardized code that is rapidly becoming a pile of shit. The alternative is much worse. Turbine has simply cut their internap lease to the bones. Only 1 reason they would do this though... ::) |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 6:26pm mystafyi wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 6:21pm:
So true because the reality is hardware is cheap if the problem could be fixed with hardware it would be fixed already. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 4th, 2013 at 11:50am
Last night I hopped on to run raids because Grace commanded it. FUCK YOU DDO. Ran VoD, good ole Hordo fell down to the bottom and as soon as he reached the rest of the party, we all simultaneously locked up for a solid 3 minutes. Couldn't move, couldn't do anything. Then it happened again in part 4 of Shroud. We're all beating on Harry, all of a sudden the damage numbers stop and the blades aren't moving in anymore. It happened to everyone in the group. Every once in a while I would be tossed up in the air and hovering over Harry like an out of body experience and then back down. We all died except Hordo (that's how you know lag is bad), but no one got taken to the penalty box. All of a sudden we all hit the loading screen and are trapped there for another couple minutes. Then the Recall button doesn't work once we arrive at the penalty box. I was so fucking enraged. The same thing happened the other night in a quest. What the fuck is going on? I've never experienced anything like that before in all my time in this game, let alone to the entire party. FIX YOUR FUCKING GAME.
One of the puggers typed in party chat, "Cue the why GW2 is better speech..." ;D |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 4th, 2013 at 11:54am wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 11:50am:
That's the thing... these aren't little issues I'm not pissed because an ED doesn't work. These are massive, game breaking, and fun sucking issues. They ruin the whole experience. They are also completely unacknowledged by Turbine. In all the time I have played game quality has never been this bad. It's disgusting what they have done and how they are handling it. Honestly, over dozens of MMO's over a dozen years I can only think of a few instances where issues were this bad and most of those were fixed within days or weeks and came with massive "We're sorry" free game time. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 4th, 2013 at 12:01pm
I must just be very lucky, these things rarely if ever happen to me. :-/
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 4th, 2013 at 12:05pm JDollar wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 12:01pm:
Could be a Khyber thing...it wouldn't be a first but it been going on for months. I would be just questing and would lock up. Couple that with gross UMD lag and it was brutal to play. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 4th, 2013 at 12:13pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
UMD lag is disgusting and needs to be dealt with. And isnt Khyber known for weird unexplainable lag (which is probably attributted to the actual physical server it self)? |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Glenalth on Jan 4th, 2013 at 12:55pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
It happens occasionally on Argo as well. Could just be a population thing at this point. The UMD/List Redraw thing is stupid and just gets worse every time they add another thing that modifies or adds another list to be drawn. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Madcow430 on Jan 4th, 2013 at 1:12pm JDollar wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 12:01pm:
Had it happening on Bloody Crypt, Sanguine Heart area three times in a row. Freeze, be irritated for 2-4 mins, come back to a wiped party. Just ran Von3 this am and got stutter stepping all through there. Yeah, it happens. Not just in raids either. I'm not optimistic for our guild's EE PDK Favor Run scheduled for tomorrow. At least I know the company will be outstanding. Who the heck knows what the game will do? |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by cdr on Jan 4th, 2013 at 1:14pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
Quite possible. I've only had that happen maybe once in the last year of daily play on Sarlona, excluding when things were really screwy after the U13 release. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by LordPiglet on Jan 4th, 2013 at 1:30pm
I've had it happen a couple times, but yeah, it's pretty rare for me to see it on Sarlona.
Not like the guaranteed UMD lag, or Chaos Orb lag. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by stainer on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:21pm
Turbine is unable to recreate this "lag" you speak of. Reinstall your os.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:30pm
Chai told me that there is no lag, so it was clearly something on my end. And all other 11 people in 2 different parties.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by scraap on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:32pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
Happens on Thelanis quite a bit as well. Locks up a whole party at times, but the last time I cross-checked in-guild, it wasn't a serverwide lock at that point. Probably more instance shananananigans. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by livefreeordie on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:33pm
How big (ie used to be 9 gigs or so) is DDO now with expansion?
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Orberon on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:37pm
Ran an abbot for the first time in a long time a couple of nights ago on Sarlona, the lag was so bad 11 lvl25s had a hell of a time beating him down just to get the doors to spawn.
People were all over the place because for them the abbot was right in front of them but in reality he had already moved to a new spot, this went on for a good five minutes and then everything was just fine. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:41pm
In VoD, Suulo would just randomly re-aggro every few seconds. Intim wouldn't work, tanking wouldn't work, it was a mess. And then a couple second hiccup every time trash spawned.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Grace on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:42pm wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 11:50am:
I think that was Hordo that said that, actually. ;D I went out of my way to give you the full DDO treatment, Gawna! You got the following: 1. We finish DQ1 and I realize I forgot to talk to the djinn. 2. I fall off something in the Sands. 3. Subterrane lag and Hordo death. 4. Stormreaver bugs and ticket has to be put in. 5. Fun pugger that makes you enraged and sends me angry tells. 6. Grace death. 7. Raid failure due to lag. Not everyone can get that kind of package in one night. ILU (I had fun anyway.) |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Glenalth on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:56pm wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:41pm:
Sounds like some of the improved deception shenanigans that have been happening lately. Tried testing it out a few nights back and sometimes it was just making the mob spin and other times it would just go completely mental and swap aggro. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:56pm
I would still log in for you, Grace! /vaginahighfive
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 4th, 2013 at 4:03pm Glenalth wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:56pm:
Are you implying they ever stopped? The agro tables and agro management has been fucked in this game since day one. They have never really "fixed" it. They masked some of the issues sure but agro has always been haywire if deception, Diplo, Bluff, are used when someone is Intim tanking. Seven years and the agro queues have never worked correctly. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Grace on Jan 4th, 2013 at 4:04pm
I have off on Sunday!
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by cdr on Jan 4th, 2013 at 6:45pm livefreeordie wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:33pm:
Over 9000 MB. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by fco-karatekid on Jan 4th, 2013 at 6:51pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 11:54am:
Couple things that bother me about this: 1) it isn't happening to everyone, so we get the apologists on the forums saying upgrade (I won't go down that path again, because it makes me have to go "oooooohhhhm" a la Jackie Gleason... beep beep beep beep). and 2) the major gamus interruptus shit WAITS till you get good an into something (like a half hour/45 minutes or so in) THEN fucking goes apeshit. It only takes like two of these, and an evening's pretty much ruined. And yah - it makes it worse when Turbine doesn't say shit - they have to know how unstable this thing's become. At least acknowledge and lie and say you're working on it when you know you're just letting it die on the vine. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by fco-karatekid on Jan 4th, 2013 at 6:53pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 12:05pm:
It's not just Khyber - I play on Thelanis exclusively and am seeing this anomalous shit, too. Maybe Khyber's got more eyes on it? |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by fco-karatekid on Jan 4th, 2013 at 6:54pm stainer wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 3:21pm:
And buy more fucking hardware. ohhhhhmmmm! |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 4th, 2013 at 7:15pm karatekid wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 6:51pm:
Number 1 is my fav. I can run games that put DDO to shame and you get the fanbois yelling get better hardware it doesn't happen to me. Like Gawna said, when everyone on vent locks up together in different instances it sure as fuck isn't the client machine. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by scraap on Jan 4th, 2013 at 8:46pm karatekid wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 6:51pm:
I'm becoming increasingly convinced they've got some sort of arcane party-client syncing code going on under the hood trying to keep folks on the same page there, and it's interfering with the client-server system, because when this latest one crops up, I can keep attacking on a melee till it clears, for instance, and things will be dead by the time the hitching stops, which isn't something you'd likely note if it was a case of the clients not being able to keep up with the server, or the instance itself actually halting. After all, at that point, the server either wouldn't be getting, or wouldn't be processing client commands... |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by mystafyi on Jan 5th, 2013 at 9:28am wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 8:46pm:
I found larafay very amusing during these so-called lag spikes. she doesnt lag. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 5th, 2013 at 11:08am
I had lag lastnight, as did 1 other party member, made it tough to heal during mass orthon spawns ina shortman devils assault.. no death, I got extra kills because the other melee wasnt getting dice roles. It made itexciting :P
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Grace on Jan 5th, 2013 at 12:03pm
We had weird lag last night doing Tor scale runs too.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by OnePercenter on Jan 5th, 2013 at 12:33pm wrote on Jan 4th, 2013 at 8:46pm:
See, the Devs DO hate casters... ::) |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by scraap on Jan 5th, 2013 at 2:25pm OnePercenter wrote on Jan 5th, 2013 at 12:33pm:
Had I used 'obscure' would it have been clearer? Dunno for spamming spells, since my PMs TRing (again). Probably also worth noting that VoIP still functions normally, so that subsystems also unaffected. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by notajedi on Jan 6th, 2013 at 12:51pm
Seems more like every four days to me, not seven days.
Tomorrow is Monday, Jannuary 7. End of Festivult, maybe the beginning of Risia. Guess what you will read later on tonight on the login screen? Server Bounce Monday January 7. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 7th, 2013 at 11:22am
We all got locked up again in every raid we ran. It wasn't as long as the long ass one that caused a Shroud fail, but got hit with one as I was running across a bridge in Von6. I was able to haltingly move across so I didn't die, but it caused a base 2 to die. ()&#@)$(#* It is so fucking irritating and, like someone else said, it doesn't happen when you first step in and are doing something unimportant, it happens at a succeed or fail moment and that's what makes it frustrating.
Suulo was again having monster aggro issues last night. Thankfully Grace got what she wanted so I never have to step into that stupid raid ever again. RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Grace on Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:28pm wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 11:22am:
Hey, one of my alts wants the goggles. Want to run VoD? |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Hordo on Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:41pm Grace wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:28pm:
I worked so hard in that VoD run, that I was exhausted, but I'm willing to put in the effort for your goggles. ;) |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:46pm
"Did we just take over that raid?"
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Hordo on Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:58pm wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:46pm:
Who? Us? NEVER! It was that Lead Asshole guy. ;) |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Grace on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:06pm Hordo wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:41pm:
But then the lag comes at the worst time... I got bracers and dopant out of that run (75 scrolls later). I was a happy girl! (I don't really need goggles, Gawna, don't cry!) |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:12pm Hordo wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 12:58pm:
STOP KITING THE FUCKING KOBOLD ALL OVER THE FUCKING MAP WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING WHY DO YOU HATE ME |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:14pm
The way you guys describe your game play makes me really believe in have and have nots in DDO.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Maxwell Edison on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:26pm JDollar wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:14pm:
Moreso it's Thinks and Think-nots. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Maxwell Edison on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:35pm
Oh and thanks for not making me have to deal with Suulo's angry retarded aggro fuckery this time. Even if it gave kmack a stroke.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Grace on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:39pm Maxwell Edison wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:35pm:
It looked like you had to deal with it anyway. He remembered you. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Maxwell Edison on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:43pm
It was my fault for having such uber dps
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:46pm Maxwell Edison wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:26pm:
complete and complete nots? Seriously this is embaressing stuff. :-[ |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Grace on Jan 7th, 2013 at 2:20pm Maxwell Edison wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:43pm:
Did you vendor the bracers? What about the SoS? |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gunga on Jan 7th, 2013 at 2:24pm JDollar wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:46pm:
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 7th, 2013 at 2:50pm JDollar wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 1:14pm:
These fucking people specifically pick up puggers that make me stroke out. We get to part 2 of Shroud and one of the sorcs says, "Where is the crystal?" (#*@_$*@_ I should get a tax rebate for having to play with these fucking people. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 7th, 2013 at 2:57pm wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 2:50pm:
the sum of the (w)hole is less than the parts? |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 7th, 2013 at 2:59pm JDollar wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 2:57pm:
Why do they even make me run VoD? Isn't most random loot better than anything that drops out of there? Don't even fucking get me started on Hound. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:02pm wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 2:59pm:
I stopped willingly running hound and Vod about 2 weeks after Argo unlocked. I was with Gunga on Ghallanda in KaTet for world second or third completion, our times without knowing the raids were faster than most when the cap was 20. in fairness to Grace (her main is rogue I believe) Tharnes are still a must have dependng on your gear slots |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Inkblack on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:04pm wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 2:50pm:
It's more fun trying to stroke out the puggers. I'm still pissed I wasn't in the run where Merry tanked the end of e-chrono, got aggro established, and then did about 5 laps around the room "to tire him out". I know it's a shock, but booze was involved. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:05pm JDollar wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:02pm:
Back when the goggles were the only item other than the DQ goggles with True Seeing on them, I totally got it. But now that shit and more is out there on a brazillion other things that are insanely easy to get and it's not worth getting a bunch of retards through the sub and the lag. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gunga on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:08pm wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:05pm:
That's half the fun. My primary reason for pugging is the entertainment. I probably wouldn't need to pug if I ran with you and Grace though. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:11pm Gunga wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:08pm:
Someone named Guangue joined a run I was in with Epoch yesterday and I thought it was you. Turned out it was a dude from Brazilian Warriors on a barb that barely made it to Rit Sac alive. Epoch is a mean person. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Grace on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:39pm
You don't have to run VoD anymore for me! :-*
I still have a shitload of Shrouds to run, though. And DQ. Fucking djinn. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:43pm wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:05pm:
Orthon challenge is good times. Just dont rely on pugs for Agro, and healing and VoD is a cake walk. Hound is a little more challenging if you do it via stones as oposed to DPS |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:43pm wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:05pm:
Exactly. You can get true seeing and the sneak attack bonuses elsewhere and and you can get 20 Search . It's not worth the hassle. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:45pm wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 2:50pm:
I'm off ears. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Maxwell Edison on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:46pm
Last two VoD's the aggro has been the problem. It was probably Hordo throwing all those diplos.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gunga on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:47pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:45pm:
You need to ask a question like, "What gear are you wearing?" or "Where did you grow up?" before you go off ears. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:51pm Maxwell Edison wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:46pm:
Improved decption messes with agro... I had to work a little on my last VoD using my intim/hate tank and there were only 5 of us in the raid but the rogue was messing things up. I still use Tharnes on my FVS because its the best slot for sneak attack. My rogue has never used them. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:52pm Gunga wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:47pm:
My personal favorite is "tell me about your build" |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Grace on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:53pm Maxwell Edison wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:46pm:
Hordo has the best diplo fighter build evah! |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:58pm Grace wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:53pm:
why? For trolling his friends? This is the only viable reason I can think of doing this, which if this is the case its hilarious. Sometimes I think Im playing a differnt game than most of the people who post on the Vault and Im not talking about guild wars |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Maxwell Edison on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:58pm JDollar wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:51pm:
Imp deception sounds almost as likely as its being Hordo's fault. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Maxwell Edison on Jan 7th, 2013 at 4:04pm JDollar wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:58pm:
I play DDO, I don't try to win it. I like killing all the things or getting attacked by all the things or preferably both, but not enough to grind gear more than running raids with people who make me laugh. The only thing I really farm is rusted blades, and that's mostly because the xp/min is too high to ignore and I can fall back on just muscle memory while kidding around, or turning it into a time trial to finish and get back in as fast as I can. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 7th, 2013 at 4:12pm Maxwell Edison wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 4:04pm:
Same here. The odd time I enjoy a time trial, I hate grinding, running the same quest more than 3 times in a night is boring unless its raids which are the most social part of the game for me outside of ventrilo. Things dont have to go to shit for me to have a good time or make a good toon with decent gear. edit: though sometimes things going to shit and over coming it is very fun. Things going to shit and having to release is not fun |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by popejubal on Jan 7th, 2013 at 4:17pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:45pm:
I got a call from my wife about a year back and told the Shroud group that I was in that I was going to have to turn off my speakers, but I promised that they would be back on before it was time for me to heal anything in part 4. I never actually was able to turn the speakers back on during the raid. Apparently, I was told over voice that I would be healing second and then I got lots of congratulations on saving the raid when the other healer died immediately and I picked up healing as if I had known that it was going to happen. That was mostly because I never heard that I was going to be "healing second" and I just pretended to myself that I was solo healing and that there was no other healer. 1 Mass Heal every 7 seconds and I "saved" the raid... I like DDO. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Epoch on Jan 7th, 2013 at 4:35pm wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 3:11pm:
Good times. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Maxwell Edison on Jan 7th, 2013 at 4:40pm JDollar wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 4:12pm:
Things went to shit because DDO is falling apart like an abandoned tenement. I think the only pugger I actively mocked was wujoh's older brother who turned into a passive aggressive little snot. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gunga on Jan 7th, 2013 at 4:47pm Epoch wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 4:35pm:
I wish you were mean to me. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by kmack on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:07pm wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 2:50pm:
I tried to save you from at least one pugger last night but the star failed. Also I want the bracers now too. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:09pm Maxwell Edison wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 4:40pm:
ddo is hard... these types of ZOMG posts have been frequwnt on the vault since I joined almost 2years ago... seems like there is just a new thing to blame having trouble with the content on. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Maxwell Edison on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:15pm
It probably is, the best excuses are things that are true. The only raid that wiped though was the elite shroud a few nights ago where everyone stood in place for 4 minutes in part 4. Bitching about how frustrating things are and embellishing upon them with each telling is Khyber's fish stories, it's what gives us this warm feeling of community. And a strong community is nicest.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:17pm Maxwell Edison wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:15pm:
Fair enough |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Hordo on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:47pm Gunga wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 4:47pm:
Bromance? |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:54pm Hordo wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:47pm:
whats the bromance equivalent to hate sex? |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by kmack on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:56pm JDollar wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:54pm:
Its what maxwell and I do. No hetero. Hate fucking OTOH is what grace and I do. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:33pm JDollar wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:17pm:
I only brought it up because I recently started playing again after a 4 month break and I had never experienced like this in playing DDO since 2006. Sure, lag here and there, but I never experienced what others did when they were one portal behind in Shroud. But this new shit is completely unplayable when it happens. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Hordo on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:35pm wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:33pm:
You know what you can play with? |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by popejubal on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:43pm Hordo wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:35pm:
Gunga's mom? |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:44pm wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:33pm:
i wasnt talking to you. I know you suck and in the good way :-* |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:57pm JDollar wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 6:44pm:
Oh, okay. Carry on then. Fuck all them gimps! |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Grace on Jan 7th, 2013 at 11:36pm kmack wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:56pm:
You are overdue for a good hatefuck. I'm sure I'm mad at you for something or other. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Epoch on Jan 8th, 2013 at 5:11am Gunga wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 4:47pm:
We never really grouped together when you were playing on khyber. Sad times. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gunga on Jan 8th, 2013 at 10:59am JDollar wrote on Jan 7th, 2013 at 5:09pm:
The people on the vault are shitty ddo players, for the most part. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gawna on Jan 8th, 2013 at 11:24am Gunga wrote on Jan 8th, 2013 at 10:59am:
I don't need to be good at DDO, I have boobs. /nexx |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Hordo on Jan 8th, 2013 at 11:36am Gunga wrote on Jan 8th, 2013 at 10:59am:
Guilty as charged. :D |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Gunga on Jan 8th, 2013 at 12:16pm Hordo wrote on Jan 8th, 2013 at 11:36am:
I was speaking in generalities and not at all thinking of you. I even noticed and remarked at how you were getting better the more lives we finished. I'm done TRing for a while, though. I'm re-learning end game. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by rest on Jan 8th, 2013 at 1:34pm
Unfortunately, I'm not very good at anything. Except being bad at stuff.
That's a mindfuck. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by JonnyD on Jan 8th, 2013 at 2:37pm rest wrote on Jan 8th, 2013 at 1:34pm:
the important thing is to stick with what you are good at... Forever Sarlona! ;) |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Dark_Helmet on Jan 15th, 2013 at 3:29am Eladiun wrote on Jan 3rd, 2013 at 7:59am:
Really? I admire your lack of knowledge of the current crop of Microsoft Operating Systems, so I don't really need to read more of this thread. Monthly patches from Microsoft have reduced the stats on this, but Microsoft's self-tuning creates havoc for several products (you have to reboot for it to quit fighting for the resources with programs loaded on it). The answer was to throw a lot of hardware (mainly memory) at the issue. No, I do hate Macs, and don't worship *nix. I just had to suffer the Microsoft "more-mediocre-products bundled together for the masses" which reminds me somewhat of Turbine (but to a lesser extent). Don't worry, I heard that Turbine hired the Apple people who previously did the iPhone maps (who previously worked for Microsoft ;)). |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Dragavon on Jan 24th, 2013 at 5:18am Eladiun wrote on Jan 2nd, 2013 at 11:38am:
The state of the DDO code will only get worse. Expect more and more problems until the servers are down for days at a time, and Turbine will be force to close the game to see if they can fix it. They will probably not be able to and that will be the end of DDO. :'( |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Flav on Jan 24th, 2013 at 7:03am
And it's not 7 days anymore... it's every 4 days if they want to avoid the crash of G-Land over hte Week end.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 24th, 2013 at 8:05am Dark_Helmet wrote on Jan 15th, 2013 at 3:29am:
1) What asshat admin installs patches monthly? Who doesn't turn off auto update? Who doesn't use WSUS? Does patch Tuesday give you wood? "This autoupdate is great! Once, a month all my servers patch. It give me more time to buff my helmet and play with my lonestar. " 2) What asshat admin doesn't turn off self tuning on mission critical platforms? "This database cluster runs my entire fucking bank. I'm doing millions of transactions per a minute. I'm just going to let them all defrag at the same time at 2 am on Sunday when no one is watching. This automation is great!" Nothing will go wrong with that plan.. 3) I thought I qualified with if you know what you are doing which you obviously don't. Stupid is as stupid does. 4) I've been doing this for 20 years. 5) You have a cute little avatar but you're a dipshit. 6) Eat a dick |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 24th, 2013 at 8:07am Flav wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 7:03am:
It's fucking unreal. It makes me wonder who else was fired or left...that they can't seem to sort this out. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Bill Z Bubb on Jan 24th, 2013 at 11:32am
They probably shipped server support to India and the only remedies the Indians know is to reboot the machines.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by stainer on Jan 24th, 2013 at 11:53am
I am waiting for a fainboi to come on with "It is perfectly normal for servers to crash sporadically, and go unfixed for several weeks. You are asking for to much, wanting a stable game environment. Reinstalling your OS should fix it, or get some better equipment noob."
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Maxwell Edison on Jan 24th, 2013 at 12:00pm |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Asheras on Jan 24th, 2013 at 12:15pm stainer wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 11:53am:
The only person who could say that last night's 8:15pm server drop was OK was someone who was not actually on at the time. I was 5 minutes away from completing a 30-40 minute quest. I stood around killing bats to get conquest in a Coal Chamber run and it bit me in the ass. If I had just killed the cube and moved on, I might have completed before it crashed. I didn't bother to try to log back on later. I just went on to doing other things. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 24th, 2013 at 12:29pm Asheras wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 12:15pm:
This is the biggest problem when a game has stability issues. People get frustrated and do something else and eventually that something else replaces the game. The fact that they are not taking this more seriously is shocking. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Flav on Jan 24th, 2013 at 1:40pm stainer wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 11:53am:
Not in my job... Crash are categorized as an incident... traffic affecting crash are categorized as High ( deal with is ASAP during normal hour ) if impact is less than 20% traffic.... traffic affecting crash over 20% traffic are categorized as emergency and shall be dealt with ASAP even if it means waking up a few guys. ( note : I said incident... because there's incidents that can affect traffic that are not involving a crash and a crash can have no traffic impact... at least in my job... Telco ) |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Flav on Jan 24th, 2013 at 1:42pm
Oh and yes I'm one of those guys that gets paged/phoned/woken up at indecent hours when something goes belly up and affect more than 20% of the traffic.
And the Almost an hour response time from Turbine everytime G-Land crash irks me a lot. I'd get fired if I took an hour to respond and fix a 100% traffic affecting emergency. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by cdr on Jan 24th, 2013 at 1:50pm Flav wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 1:42pm:
I bet you work on something more important than a B-list MMORPG. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Flav on Jan 24th, 2013 at 1:53pm cdr wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 1:50pm:
Telco. As in I work for one of the company that sells telecom equipments to all the operators in Froggy Lands. And one of my most favorite move, when I get called is : Me : Ok, I can fix it really fast by restarting the system. But you won't get the root cause and I won't be able to investigate on the problem. Investigating and collecting the logs will take me one hour or two, but you will be given the root cause of the problem and we will be able to develop a fix. Telco : Restart the system now. ( they always answer that ) Me : Ok, restarting, the traffic should be back up in about 2 minutes. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Terebinthia on Jan 24th, 2013 at 2:43pm Flav wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 1:53pm:
A buggy bird in the land is worth 3 in the bush? I've been intrigued at the DDOOracle stats. I control 19 toons, and there's 240k on Khyber? This game is tiny. Anyone know their archive schedule? |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 24th, 2013 at 3:11pm Terebinthia wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 2:43pm:
...and that doesn't take activity into account. This is a small MMO. Any population changes can have a drastic effect. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Eladiun on Jan 24th, 2013 at 3:18pm
Holy shit there are only 17000 toons on Wayfinder...what an utter failure that server was.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Terebinthia on Jan 24th, 2013 at 3:21pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 3:11pm:
I have an idea they do archive off complete inactives off the data myDDO is driven from, though, which would I think affect these stats too. Based on looking folk up who have left MAC I'd guess at a year, but it's genuinely a guess. But yes. This game is tiny. |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Arkat on Jan 24th, 2013 at 10:21pm Eladiun wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 3:18pm:
Germans are too practical and have no imagination. :D |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Turkantho on Jan 25th, 2013 at 6:26am
no, 90% of the ddo playing germans i know took one look at that google tanslator crime they called localisation, switched their cleints back to english and stayed on the server they started playing
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Arkat on Jan 25th, 2013 at 8:01am wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 6:26am:
Like I said, Germans are picky and super anal retentive! :D |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Turkantho on Jan 25th, 2013 at 8:30am
Being german myself I have to say, you got a point there.
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Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by stainer on Jan 25th, 2013 at 9:11am wrote on Jan 25th, 2013 at 6:26am:
That made me laugh in German. It sounds like this - SchnitzelSchnitzelSchnitzelSchnitzelSchnitzelSchnitzel |
Title: Re: Is it just me... Post by Bill Z Bubb on Jan 25th, 2013 at 9:48am Flav wrote on Jan 24th, 2013 at 1:42pm:
I don't miss those days at all. Retirement is good. |
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