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Title: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Nov 6th, 2017 at 6:20am
I have a THF Silvanus(8F / 6C /6M)
My base is STR. I need Cha for Divine Might. Con for HP and saves. I dont need DEX(Cleric Domain STR add Str for reflex save). Wis for Jade Strike and saves. my goal is DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS DPS... but i need PRR(not be squishy) + Dodge + Saves I dont know best setting for my toon and I also do not know a post related to this. I need your opinion/help for know the better end gears for my toon At the moment I have this list:
note: 1-Why not speed? Wind Stance of Monk already add 15% MA, just need aug~ striding 30% 2-Dont need Dex(Str Domain <3) 3-missing Improved Deception 4-I should use epic litany of dead, Outfit of the Celestial Guardian, ... ? ------ How can I improve this? |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Carpone on Nov 6th, 2017 at 8:32am
You're missing 11 Quality PRR from a Slave Lords extra slot.
You're missing 18 Insightful PRR from Cannith Crafting. Possible PRR: 9 (3 Divine EPLs) + 46 (boots) + 11 (quality on Slave Lords crafted) + 18 (insightful on Cannith crafted) + 20 (shintao enhancements) + 10 (epic damage reduction feat) + 9 (henshin core 3) = 123 (55% damage reduction). There's another possible 27 PRR from EPLs and IPLs, 30 situational from Master's Blitz and a handful of points in reaper trees. The challenge: AP is spread a bit thin with 36+ Kensei, 11 Ninja Spy (for Shadow Veil), 9 Shintao (20 PRR/20 healing amp), 11 henshin (9 PRR/30 melee power). That means not enough AP for Harper KtA. Why are you in Wind stance? Either take Blinding Speed or figure out how to slot Melee Alacrity 15%. You want to be in either Fire stance for the +STR (and thus +Reflex), +2 DC for Dire Charge/Stunning Blow and +1 crit multiplier on 19-20 or Water stance for massive increases to saves, dodge and max dodge at the cost of -2 STR. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Nov 6th, 2017 at 9:18am
why wind? 12% DS > +1x 19-20
15 MA is just a bonus. i dont need more reflex, trust in me xD i had 73 reflex on lvl 20 when used divine miths(just 4 AP... work best that Harper KtA for this bluid). how i will add 11 Quality PRR from a Slave Lords extra slot and 18 Insightful PRR from Cannith Crafting? i can change +4 Q Cha for 11 Quality PRR but how i will add 18 I Prr from cannith crafting? |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Carpone on Nov 6th, 2017 at 10:31am
You said you did not want to be squishy. What exactly does that mean to you? Do you have a specific amount of damage reduction you think is acceptable? How many reaper skulls are you trying to stay alive in?
As far as doublestrike goes, you can get higher than the 12% provided by monk stances. I'm not familiar with TOEE armor, so not sure what you're after there. But you can net 17% doublestrike from the Celestial Avenger. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Nov 6th, 2017 at 10:54am
i was think about it
maybe use Celestial Avenger and litany of death or cc tinket |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by 5 Foot Step on Nov 6th, 2017 at 11:46am
L Executioner's Helm (Ins deception +7, Relentless Fury, Seeker 17, Qual CM+4, Mythic +3)
E Golden Guile (Improved Deception, Ghostly, 1 slot) Gauntlets of the Aggressor (Doublestrike 20, I AP 13, 2 Slots, Mythic +3) L Cowl of the Giant Warriors (I Combat Mastery +7, Speed 30, PRR 45, I Deadly 6, G Slot, Mythic +3) L Animated Rope (Diversion 28, SA +14, Dodge 17, CM +14, Mythic +3) Slavecraft Ring (False Life 68, AP 28, Vertigo 20, Q PRR 11, 2 slots, Mythic +3) L Ring of Prowess (Deadly 14, Accuracy 28, MP 8, Mythic +3) CC Trinket (Dstrike/Hamp/Ins Str) Slave craft Boots (Str/Resistance/Tendon Slice/Q Str/+3 Mythic) Slave craft Bracers (Con/Devotion/Stunning/Q Con/+3 Mythic) Visions of Precision (Wis 12, Ins Wis 4, Stunning 15, Mythic +3) Outfit of the Celestial Guardian (Fort 159%, Q DS 4, Q Deadly 3, Sheltering 38, Parrying 7, Blurry, Deathblock, Mythic +4) Carpone wrote on Nov 6th, 2017 at 10:31am:
I'm pretty sure Wind stance DS is untyped. Still, even though 12% DS is a bit more DPS +1 multi 19-20, you still want to be in fire stance, for the massive extra ki gen, +2 to hit, +3 base damage, and +2 DCs. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Nov 6th, 2017 at 12:05pm
a noob question:
Dazing X(from Visions of Precision) stack with stunning bonus +20(from Slave craft Bracers)? soo +35? o.o if not stack, would be better Goggles: CC Wisdom 15, Ins Wis 7, Melee Alacrity 15 ? |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by 5 Foot Step on Nov 6th, 2017 at 12:32pm
They don't stack, but the DC is not why you're wearing it. Enhanced Ki +3 is kind of a big deal.
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Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Nov 6th, 2017 at 1:13pm 5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 6th, 2017 at 11:46am:
humm i'm still in doubt i dont count Mythic because i dont have lucky for it XD +Improved Deception +Blurry +1 CM -1 (Shadow Disciple) = 0 CM +5 Deadly -12 PRR -1 Parrying(saves) -1 STR -2 all status +20 AP -21Cha = +10 Str when use divine miths? 5 damage/hit/dc/saves? why CC Trinket (Dstrike/Hamp/Ins Str)? if u already 20% DS from Gauntlets of the Aggressor. not have Cha for divine might? Legendary Emissary's Vestments ( 45 prr/ I MRR 22 / Q stun 4 / fort 185) and Legendary Deep Arcanum (14 resistance / Q MRR 11 / I PRR 22 / I Wizard 185) would work? |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by 5 Foot Step on Nov 6th, 2017 at 1:40pm Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 6th, 2017 at 1:13pm:
Right, I messed up. It wasn't done swapping yet. Here's a better list: L Executioner's Helm (Ins deception +7, Relentless Fury, Seeker 17, Qual CM+4, Mythic +3) E Golden Guile (Improved Deception, Ghostly, 1 slot) Gauntlets of the Aggressor (Doublestrike 20, I AP 13, 2 Slots, Mythic +3) L Cowl of the Giant Warriors (I Combat Mastery +7, Speed 30, PRR 45, I Deadly 6, G Slot, Mythic +3) Slavecraft Belt (Cha, Deception, Shatter, Q Cha, 2 slots Mythic +3) Slavecraft Ring (False Life 68, AP 28, Vertigo 20, Q PRR 11, 2 slots, Mythic +3) L Ring of Prowess (Deadly 14, Accuracy 28, MP 8, Mythic +3) CC Trinket (Dodge/Hamp/Ins Str) Slave craft Boots (Str/Resistance/Tendon Slice/Q Str/+3 Mythic) Slave craft Bracers (Con/Devotion/Stunning/Q Con/+3 Mythic) Visions of Precision (Wis 12, Ins Wis 4, Stunning 15, Enhanced Ki 3, Mythic +3) Outfit of the Celestial Guardian (Fort 159%, Q DS 4, Q Deadly 3, Sheltering 38, Parrying 7, Blurry, Deathblock, Mythic +4) Now with a 5 piece bonus. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Nov 6th, 2017 at 2:16pm
5 piece o.o' I will be a slave of slave XD
would not it be good idea to use epic litany of dead? +4 damage/hit and +2 all status what do you think? |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Nov 6th, 2017 at 6:51pm
I would build around a few items as a base.
Pendant of Warrior for Insightful doublestrike RSO gloves for max doublestrike item RSO boots for max prr/ins prr item RSO goggles for dodge/ins dodge item on otherwise shitty eye slot Hox outfit for Q doublestrike and Q deadly. Parry 7 is a bonus Ring of Prowess stupid ring BiS for every ranged and melee. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Nov 6th, 2017 at 11:35pm
Cloak: Legendary Slate-Scale Capelet (18 STR, 4 Q STR, 60 Vita, 40 Q fort, Blue)
for max str? XD |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Nov 7th, 2017 at 1:35am Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 6th, 2017 at 11:35pm:
Probably. There is also Legendary Sojourner's Cowl for 9 insightful doublestrike, Q 4 Con, Combat Mastery 14, and Fort 185%. You still want Improved Deception and that comes on a necklace, which would also cover Ghostly. But that means Cowl as the helm. Slavers item would cover the seeker, but you would lose insightful sneak attack item. This is why golden guile is such a great item still, because ghostly items are mostly trash and so are improved deception items. Both effects are on very few items and Guile consolidates 2 weak items into one. I would suggest going this route. The RSO boots and the 18str cloak can be easily replaced with already overlapping items and slavers or cannith covering the rest. The prr lost by not using the boots is around -12, if using Hox armor for sheltering 38, or -5 if placing sheltering 45 onto a slaver item. Either way 18 insightful should be on a cc item and quality 11 on a slaver item. Hamp and spell saves can go on a trinket. The net loss would be a trivial 1-2% physical damage reduction, a 17 str instead of an 18. Gaining more slots to fill out whatever you have missing using slavers or cannith. I wouldn't focus on the slavers 5 set or even an ender set. Tho a 3pc slaver set should be able to fit in easily. Can probably try to squeeze in lgs 2piece 18% hp set. Maybe. IDK. Seems hard to fit lgs. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Nov 7th, 2017 at 6:45am Rubbinns wrote on Nov 6th, 2017 at 6:51pm:
Rubbinns wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 1:35am:
Updated: Rubbinns wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 7:12am:
your build is: Gauntlets of the Aggressor (Gloves): Doublestrike 20%, Insightful Armor-Piercing - 13%, Incite +54, Quality Incite +12, Green Augment Slot, Blue Augment Slot Discerning Gaze (Goggles): Dodge +18%,Quality Dodge +4%, Quality Distant Diversion +6, Speed +30, Green Augment Slot, Yellow Augment Slot Outfit of the Celestial Guardian - (Clothing): +13 Enhancement Bonus, Fortification +159%, Quality Doublestrike 4%, Quality Deadly III, Sheltering +38, Parrying +7, Blurry, Deathblock IX, Green Augment Slot, Angelic Grace, Yellow Augment Slot Legendary Ring of Prowess - (Ring) - Melee Power +8, Ranged Power +8, Deadly +14, Accuracy 28, Green Augment Slot Legendary Sojourner's Cowl - (Helm) - Quality Constitution +4, Fortification +185%, Combat Mastery +14, Insightful Doublestrike 9%, Blue Augment Slot Epic Golden Guile - (Necklace): Ghostly, Diplomacy +20, Bluff +20, Improved Deception, Charisma Skills - Exceptional Bonus +2, Yellow Augment Slot Legendary Cowl of the Giant Warriors (Cloak): Insightful Combat Mastery +7, Speed +30, Physical Sheltering +45, Insightful Deadly +6, Green Augment Slot Slavecraft - (Ring): (STR 17, Seeker 17, Stunning 20, 4 Q STR, Mythic +3) Slavecraft - (Boots): (Con 17/Resistance 14/Tendo/Q PRR 11/+3 Mythic) Slavecraft - (Belt): (Cha 17, Deception 14, Vertigo, Q Cha 4, Mythic +3) CC Trinket (Wis 15/Hamp 61/ 7 Ins CON 7) CC Bracers (Spell Saves 12, I PRR 18, I STR 7) VS 5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 6th, 2017 at 1:40pm:
What is the best? Rubbinns Gears set vs 5 Foot Step Gears set
note: I did not count mythic bonus. Set: Rubbinns - 3 Pieces = 2 MP + 2 Deadly 5 Foot Step - 5 Pieces = +2 STR +4 MP + 4 Deadly Prr = +18 PRR Deadly = -2 Meele Power = -2 Dodge = +7% Doublestrike = +9% Parrying = equal values STR = -2 Con = +7 Cha = -4 Wis = -1 AP = -28 Healamp = equal values Sneak Atack = -11 Damage CM = -4 Bonus: Enhanced Ki 3 = - Speed +30 = both Blurry = both Deathblock IX = both Improved Deception = both Relentless Fury = - |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Nov 7th, 2017 at 7:12am Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 6:45am:
Seems good. If you're willing to let go of boots you can get more stats but slightly less prr. You swap out boots and put the slavers bracers there. then a cannith bracers gets you spell saves/ ins prr/ ins str. then you can get a trinket with wis/ hamp/ ins con. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Nov 7th, 2017 at 7:42am
i updated reply #14.
who have more dps? 5 Foot Step gears have +2 Deadly, +2MP, +2 STR, +28 AP, +11 SA but your gears have +9% Doublestrike |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by 5 Foot Step on Nov 7th, 2017 at 11:42am 5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 6th, 2017 at 1:40pm:
I derped again and forgot that DM makes Insightful Str redundant, so you can swap that out on the trinket for Ins Cha if you want even more DPS or Ins Con if you'd rather the HP. L Executioner's Helm (Ins deception +7, Relentless Fury, Seeker 17, Qual CM+4, Mythic +3) E Golden Guile (Improved Deception, Ghostly, 1 slot) Gauntlets of the Aggressor (Doublestrike 20, I AP 13, 2 Slots, Mythic +3) L Cowl of the Giant Warriors (I Combat Mastery +7, Speed 30, PRR 45, I Deadly 6, G Slot, Mythic +3) Slavecraft Belt (Cha, Deception, Shatter, Q Cha, 2 slots Mythic +3) Slavecraft Ring (False Life 68, AP 28, Vertigo 20, Q PRR 11, 2 slots, Mythic +3) L Ring of Prowess (Deadly 14, Accuracy 28, MP 8, Mythic +3) CC Trinket (Dodge/Hamp/Ins Con or Cha) Slave craft Boots (Str/Resistance/Tendon Slice/Q Str/+3 Mythic) Slave craft Bracers (Con/Devotion/Stunning/Q Con/+3 Mythic) Visions of Precision (Wis 12, Ins Wis 4, Stunning 15, Enhanced Ki 3, Mythic +3) Outfit of the Celestial Guardian (Fort 159%, Q DS 4, Q Deadly 3, Sheltering 38, Parrying 7, Blurry, Deathblock, Mythic +4) |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by 5 Foot Step on Nov 7th, 2017 at 11:53am
Also, what is your dodge cap and how many reaper points do you have? Having 7 more dodge on gear isn't that great if you're already filling it out.
Ocean Stance: Dodge: 15 item + 3 Past Life + 6 monk levels + 5 reaper ap + 12 Grand Ocean stance= 41% Max Dodge: 25 base + 2 guild + 3 Ninja + 3 reaper ap + 8 Grand Ocean stance = 41% Dodge Fire Stance: Dodge: 15 item + 3 Past Life + 6 monk levels + 9 reaper ap = 33% Max Dodge: 25 base + 2 guild + 3 Ninja + 3 reaper ap = 33% Dodge |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Nov 7th, 2017 at 2:38pm 5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 11:42am:
Good catch. Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 6:45am:
Swap I Str 7 with I Fort 79%. Total fort 264. Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 7:42am:
Seems like a wash. It comes down to what other stats you're getting. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Nov 7th, 2017 at 2:54pm Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 6:45am:
You can macro Divine Might and swap an item to make room in gear set for devotion. Frees up red slot and keeps devotion slotted while using LGS. Ends up as Slavecraft - (Belt): (Wis 17, Deception 14, Vertigo, Q Cha 4, Mythic +3) CC Trinket (Devotion /Hamp 61/ Ins CON 7) Get a lgs 15/7 charisma kama. I plan on doing that for kta and 10k on my shuri. Something like this; Ctrl+x to access that hotbar. 1 to swap to lgs charisma kama. 2 to hit DM. 3 swap back to main weapon. Ctrl+1 get back to main hotbar. End. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Carpone on Nov 7th, 2017 at 6:52pm
Consideration: There are hundreds of items in MoR according to Jerry. We'll be seeing some of them on Lamannia real soon now.
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Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Nov 7th, 2017 at 7:02pm Carpone wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
Yeah, this was futile. Everyone will now have to redo their entire gear sets. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by 5 Foot Step on Nov 7th, 2017 at 7:18pm Rubbinns wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 2:54pm:
Yeah, that's worth doing for this build. Carpone wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 6:52pm:
Good point. Power creep is OP. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Digimonk on Nov 8th, 2017 at 2:31pm Rubbinns wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 7:02pm:
Nope. At least for me, it's completely not worth the time and effort to farm entire new sets of gear from Ravenloft unless SSG has significantly increased the difficulty of that content on EE/R1. Unless you're planning on running a lot of R10s, Slave Lords and Cannith Crafted gear with a few choice named items depending on the build are well beyond the "good enough" point, even for low and mid skull Reapers if you're not a scrub. As was mentioned by several in one of the other threads here, I'm really, really sick of spending hours playing gear tetris just to slot in one or two items for a 1-3% increase when I'm already facerolling content. DC casters may be the exception to this, but I tend to not run those very often so /shrug. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Nov 8th, 2017 at 2:58pm Digimonk wrote on Nov 8th, 2017 at 2:31pm:
You're not wrong. I mean, I'm still going to do it because I don't tr and there isn't anything else to do in this game if you do not TR. But the increases are minimal. 4 to stat points, 2 to doublestrike, few points to deadly and insightful deadly. meh. The new monk stance ring becomes BiS for every melee monk ( non-wolf/tree ) and shuri. You're prolly gonna have to do the tetris dance for that thing ;p |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Digimonk on Nov 8th, 2017 at 7:48pm Rubbinns wrote on Nov 8th, 2017 at 2:58pm:
Maybe. The +2 deadly is nice, but I'll wait and see what version of the +stance effects actually makes it to live (and survives the first patch) before I bother. If they nerf it, it'll most likely be complete crap based on the way they've nerfed everything else good lately. If that happens, it won't be worth giving up the accuracy on the Legendary Prowess ring imo. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Nov 8th, 2017 at 8:54pm Digimonk wrote on Nov 8th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
Is a slippery slope. this is how i con all the homies into letting me pike for loot. just get them talking about gear and then dropa casual " but have you seen this item?". There is also another ring if Pinnacle gets nerfed. Ring of Nightfall: Ring Insightful Intelligence (Heroic: +2) (Legendary: +9) Insightful Deadly (Heroic: +2) (Legendary: +7) Reflex Saves (Heroic: +5) (Legendary: +16) Physical Sheltering (Heroic: +14) (Legendary: +50) Green Augment Slot max prr and max I deadly 7. bonus max I int for KtA. The boots for dex builds Shadowsole Footsteps: Boots Dexterity (Heroic: +6) (Legendary: +19) Insightful Dodge (Heroic: +2%) (Legendary: +9%) Seeker (Heroic: +6) (Legendary: +19) Accuracy (Heroic: +9) (Legendary: +31) Yellow Augment Slot max dex, max I dodge, max seeker, and max accuracy? ooph. With the gloves for dex builds ? Yes. Crumbling Gloves: Gloves Insightful Dexterity (Heroic: +2) (Legendary: +9) Quality Intelligence (Heroic: +1) (Legendary: +4) Shatter (Heroic: +6) (Legendary: +22) Insightful Physical Sheltering (Heroic: +6) (Legendary: +24) Blue Augment Slot Max I dex, bonus Q int for KtA, Max I prr 24... Makes the Prowess ring seem weak even though it's going across 2 items, the 2 items are way more powerful than the ring at about 3 items worth of stats for the boots and gloves combo. These actually open up more slots for all dex builds. Throw in the I Deadly 50 prr ring. Loss of Prowess is 8 RP so would have to get that back from the 6 RP Gambit quiver. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Nov 8th, 2017 at 9:25pm Sonilasfx wrote on Nov 7th, 2017 at 7:42am:
;D gonna have to again. Start with these items as pillars. Shadowsole Footsteps: Boots Dexterity (Heroic: +6) (Legendary: +19) Insightful Dodge (Heroic: +2%) (Legendary: +9%) Seeker (Heroic: +6) (Legendary: +19) Accuracy (Heroic: +9) (Legendary: +31) Yellow Augment Slot Lore-Fueled Packbanner: Bracers Insightful Constitution (Heroic: +2) (Legendary: +9) Physical Sheltering (Heroic: +14) (Legendary: +50) Insightful Doublestrike (Heroic: +2) (Legendary: +10) Druidic Stoneshape While in Wild Shape, you receive a Primal bonus to PRR equal to half the number of Wilderness Lore feats you have. Green Augment Slot Mantle of Fury: Cloak Constitution (Heroic: +6) (Legendary: +19) Raging Resilience While Raged, +4 Rage bonus to Fortitude Saves. Doublestrike (Heroic: +6) (Legendary: +22) Dodge (Heroic: +6%) (Legendary: +19%) Green Augment Slot Animated Rope Guile. Ex. Helm Hox robe. trinket cc devotion/ hamp/ I accuracy ring slavers str/q str/ resistance/tendon slice goggles cc wis/ alacrity/ I wis New Pinnacle ring if centered. Missing anything? More items from a few more quests and 2 raids are coming which should change some items around. Just hold off on making anything until ravenloft so you dont waste cannith and slavers mats. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by 5 Foot Step on Nov 10th, 2017 at 10:33am Digimonk wrote on Nov 8th, 2017 at 2:31pm:
Sure if you've already got the current best (or close to it). But if you already passed on the new grind the last time or 2, as it seems most people did with RtSO, this stuff looks pretty good and easy to get. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Digimonk on Nov 11th, 2017 at 1:46am 5 Foot Step wrote on Nov 10th, 2017 at 10:33am:
True. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by 5 Foot Step on Nov 11th, 2017 at 11:03am
Of course no glimpses of raid loot and/or sentient weapons yet. I expect those to be the real shinies.
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Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Nov 30th, 2017 at 9:04pm
back building!
New itens comming. Part1: Quest loot + sets https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/491574 Part2: Raid loot + feedback about set https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/491574 amazing items and set set slave died? Dragonblood Prophecy itens? How's the build? Which new set is worth using? Silent Avenger set 20% Artifact Bonus to Doublestrike ? 0: Adherent of the Mists +30 prr? Legendary Crypt Raider +10 MP? Bloodrage Chrism: :D :D
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Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by 5 Foot Step on Dec 4th, 2017 at 10:23am |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Mokune on Dec 7th, 2017 at 7:01am
-s and e<=>l
Int is not a dump stat.. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Dec 16th, 2017 at 1:06am
back to project!
Legendary Adherent of the Mists + Legendary Silent Avenger possible? Legendary Silent Avenger: armor Legendary Disciple of the Dawn +14 Enhancement Bonus Fortification +202% Parrying +9 Physical Sheltering +50 Insightful Resistance +7 Green Augment Slot cloak Legendary Shadowhail Cloak Hide +22 Move Silently +22 Deception +16 Ghostly Green Augment Slot or The Invisible Cloak of Strahd Invisibility Guard Nightmare Guard Deception +17 Magical Sheltering +52 Blue Augment Slot Green Augment Slot belt Legendary Braided Cutcord Q Dodge +4% Blurry Dexterity +19 Quality Dexterity +4 Green Augment Slot ____ Legendary Adherent of the Mists boots Legendary Flightfoot Greaves Freedom of Movement Speed +30 Natural Armor +19 Reflex Save +16 Yellow Augment Slot bracer Legendary Lore-Fueled Packbanner Insightful Constitution +9 Physical Sheltering +50 Insightful Doublestrike 10% Druidic Stoneshape Green Augment Slot glove Molten Silver Gauntlets Feat: Pierce Silver Deadly +16 Deception +17 Armor-Piercing +32 Blue Augment Slot Green Augment Slot or Crumbling gloves Insightful Dexterity +9 Quality Intelligence +4 Shatter +22 Insightful Physical Sheltering +24 Blue Augment Slot ring Legendary Perfect Pinnacle Deadly +16 Stunning +22 Soul of the Elements Beyond the Soul of Storm Beyond the Soul of Stone Beyond the Soul of Flame Beyond the Soul of Tide trinket Echo of Ravenkind Eternal Holy Burst While you are wearing this item, your melee, ranged, and unarmed attacks gain the Holy Burst ability. (This weapon is holy. The weapon deals an additional 1 to 6 good damage each hit. In addition, critical hits deal an additional 1 to 10 good damage for weapons with a x2 critical multiplier, 2 to 20 for a x3 critical multiplier and 3 to 30 for a x4 multiplier.) True Seeing Constitution +20 Improved Deception Yellow Augment Slot Green Augment Slot ___________ goggle cc or vision ring L Ring of Prowess (Deadly 14, Accuracy 28, MP 8, Mythic +3) neck slave 17 STR + Seeker + tendo + Q STR +4 ___________ missing CHA, DS... :/ Maybe Slaves + Legendary Silent Avenger or Slave + Legendary Adherent of the Mists What do you guys think? How can I improve this? |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Dec 16th, 2017 at 9:46am
I do not see the possibility of using two sets of Ravenloft
then i have to choose Legendary Adherent of the Mists or Legendary Silent Avenger what is your opinion? |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Dec 16th, 2017 at 10:45am
wait for the second raid to come out with the other items. might be easier to tetris then
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Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Dec 16th, 2017 at 5:04pm
they already release item from baba raid.
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/491898-Ravenloft-Expansion-Preview-3-Loot maybe they can change or no |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Dec 20th, 2017 at 6:49am Sonilasfx wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 5:04pm:
we will see what they changed and how, but baba has the shuri, the dex20/12dshot goggles, the con 20/improved deception trinket, and the profane robe with avenger set bonus. Guess I i will be putting in 87 runs. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Dec 21st, 2017 at 10:26am
This is hard as fuck to make. I don't think it's really feasible to try and go for any set bonus? IDK.
What are you using for hamp? I mean, you could swap to a lgs stick when you need/throw a heal. Macro the swap to cocoon. where is dodge coming from? alacrity item? the rest are easy once the above questions are answered. this is a general list of end game items for centered melees that I put together: Avenger set : Disciple of Dawn armor fort parry Shadowhail Cloak cloak deception ghostly Braided Cutcord dex q dex q dodge no sets; Lore-Fueled Packbanner bracers i con i dstrike Molten Silver Gloves gloves silver dstrike armoer pierce Perfect Pinnacle ring stunning Echo of Ravenkind trinket Executioner Helm Helm i deception seeker Visions Precision goggles wis i wis ki discerning gaze dodge i dodge speed slavers neck str accurracy tendon slice q str slavers ring int if kta build or other stat/false life resistance skill q int/stat/prr boots cc dodge i combat mastery |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Digimonk on Dec 21st, 2017 at 11:56am Rubbinns wrote on Dec 21st, 2017 at 10:26am:
Yeah, this has been the biggest problem and shortcoming to SSG's itemization the last few years. In a vaccum, a lot of the new items look great. Then you start trying to slot something and watch the entire rest of your gear setup fall completely and utterly apart due to the gear / effect tetris. You quickly realize that there's no real rhyme or reason to their itemization design. Instead of standardizing effects on slots like they did with the cannith crafting systems or giving us something flexible like the Slave Lords crafting, they just throw random effects on pieces and go "Tada!" A case in point being one of the new named items that had Abjuration focus on it. Yeah, all the casters were really missing that effect so they can roll with 100+ DC for buffs... :-? It's hilarious how SSG likes to talk about that particular dumpster fire being intentional because they "want you to have to make hard choices". The irony is that the choice has been pretty easy. You pick the one or two pieces that by some accident fit well with the rest of your existing set that you spent hours/days farming for and say fuck the rest of it. Which essentially means that the devs just wasted a lot of their time making new items that most people won't bother using because they can't or won't redo their entire gear setup. On the plus side, at least now all the other shiny new "hard choices" can feed sentient gems so it's not a complete loss. Although with that perspective, the devs could have save themselves a lot of coding time by creating a "gem food" item instead. Give it an icon of a poop emoji for bonus points and call it a day. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Wipe on Dec 22nd, 2017 at 7:01am Rubbinns wrote on Dec 21st, 2017 at 10:26am:
This is such old silly concept. "Swap to hjeal amp before you die". It just doesn't work. Either way, lack of heal amp on newish items really sucks. Shouldn't use old ass items like Tod rings, Claw gloves or convalescent bracers while levelling but I am such a sucker for hjeal amp. Big difference when you get 300 - 700 cocoons or 400 scrolls from someone. Or any other source matter. Fuck toons without hjeal amp, seriously. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Dec 22nd, 2017 at 7:43am Wipe wrote on Dec 22nd, 2017 at 7:01am:
I do it all the time on my shuri. even in r10. dont even have a hamp item on at all atm. not that i dont want to, but dont have baba gear to tetris in all that shit. but im a master kiter and safe spot finder. there really isnt good hamp gear tho. there is an event belt, memoriam, mystery bracer/cloak. but all of it eats into the gearing badly cos theyre largely shitty items for the most part. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Digimonk on Dec 22nd, 2017 at 10:44am Rubbinns wrote on Dec 22nd, 2017 at 7:43am:
The gradual increase of persistent, minor lag to the game over the past few years has made swapping like that a pain in the ass, especially on any build with a high hit rate. More and more lately, I've noticed that I have to hit activated attacks and weapon set hotkeys several times if I don't stop auto-attacking for about 1/2 a second first. It's annoying as hell, especially on things that require precise timing like Unbridled Fury and adrenaline burns. For healing amp, you can get it on Cannith Crafted stuff in the glove and trinket slots. Still not an great fit on a full gear set, but it at least adds a couple more options. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Dec 22nd, 2017 at 11:01am Digimonk wrote on Dec 22nd, 2017 at 10:44am:
the lag also fucks with my macro into rapid shot randomly. not high rate but sometimes i have to hit G button like 3-4x. and sometimes the boost macro skips the sneak of shadows animation but gives the buff. also rarely does same for rapid shot, which gives buff and skips cooldown. I dont die much tho with a tank and cc. and im low on hp, 1.5k in reaper. my gear is a mess until get trinket and goggles from lady gaga raid. but when i do i will have hamp affirmation offhand, 1.8k hp, 130~ prr. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Dec 22nd, 2017 at 4:53pm
Bloodrage Chrism
bonus: -83 Healamp -Calamitous Blows = 10% DS for thf -Bloodrage Defense = 30 PRR/MRR for thf ( it isnt bloodrage effect! it is new bonus) -Rune-fueled Warding = 30 DR for THF -2x slot -Unnatural Unnatural: Item so profane can have unintended consequences... this item will uncenter you and break your druidic oath. :,( monk cant use it |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Dec 22nd, 2017 at 7:23pm
End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base
THF version ~ Silvanus Armor: Legendary Disciple of the Dawn - Drop Sunrise -Fortification +202% -Parrying +9 -Physical Sheltering +50 -Profane +2 all status -1x Slot Silent Avenger Set (Legendary) Belt: Legendary Braided Cutcord - Drop The Final Vintage -Quality Dodge +4% -Blurry -Dexterity +19 -Quality Dexterity +4 -1x Slot Silent Avenger Set (Legendary) Cloak: The Invisible Cloak of Strahd or Legendary Shadowhail Cloak I prefer Legendary Shadowhail Cloak Ghostly <3 Legendary Shadowhail Cloak - Drop Sealed in Amber -Hide +22 -Move Silently +22 -Deception +16 -Ghostly -1x Slot Silent Avenger Set (Legendary) The Invisible Cloak of Strahd - Drop BABA raid -Invisibility Guard -Nightmare Guard -Deception +17 -Magical Sheltering +52 -2x Slot Silent Avenger Set (Legendary) Helmet: Legendary Executioner's Helm - Drop Slave -Insightful Deception +7 -Relentless Fury -Seeker 17 -Quality Combat Mastery +4 -1 slot Against the Slave Lords Set Bonus Gloves: Molten Silver Gauntlets - Drop BABA raid -Feat: Pierce Silver -Deadly +16 -Doublestrike 23% -Armor-Piercing - 32% -2x slot Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary) Bracers Legendary Lore-Fueled Packbanner - Drop An Invitation to Dinner -Insightful Constitution +9 -Physical Sheltering +50 -Insightful Doublestrike 10% -Druidic Stoneshape -1 slot Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary) Goggles Discerning Gaze - Drop RSO raid -Dodge +18% -Quality Dodge +4% -Quality Distant Diversion +6 -Speed +30 -2 Slot Necklace Fleetfoot Necklace - Drop Strahd raid -Superior Reinforced Fists -Feat: Wind Through the Trees -Natural Armor +20 -Wisdom +20 -2x Slot Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary) 1 Ring Legendary Perfect Pinnacle - Drop An Invitation to Dinner -Perfect Pinnacle -Greater Reinforced Fists -Deadly +16 -Stunning +22 -Soul of the Elements Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary) 2 Ring Slavers - Slave Crafting ring -CHA -resistance or Accuracy -Vertigo or UMD -Q Con or Cha or Q PRR Trinket Echo of Ravenkind - BABA raid -Eternal Holy Burst -True Seeing -Constitution +20 -Improved Deception -2x slot Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary) Boots Slavers - Slaves crafting -str -accurracy -tendon slice -q str -Set slave Weapowns -Tremor, the Breaker of Bones+Sentient Bonus Trash killer and half boss break Drop Baba raid -TF Maul bossbreak Full bossbreak Thunderholme crafting Set actived: Silent Avenger Set (Legendary) -15% Artifact Bonus to Doublestrike and Doubleshot. -3 Sneak Attack Dice. -25% Artifact bonus to Fortification Bypass. -10% Artifact bonus to Damage vs. Helpless Opponents. Adherent of the Mists Set (Legendary) set +20 Profane Bonus to Physical Resistance Rating. +20 Profane Bonus to Positive, Negative, and Repair Healing Amplification. +10 Profane Bonus to Melee and Ranged Power. +20 Profane Bonus to Universal Spell Power. Slaves 3x set +2 artifact bonus to Melee Power/Ranged Power +2 artifact bonus to Deadly Opcional Item with macro: CC item with Heal amp + Macro coccon What's missing: -Protection -Q DS -I Dodge -Heal amp -I deadly -Q deadly -I CM -3 KI Goggles(Vision) :< note ( monk can use new wraps) -I Wis -Q Wis -Q Con or Cha -I Cha - ??? |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by 5 Foot Step on Dec 23rd, 2017 at 9:49am
Silent Avenger + Adherent does seem the way to go. Good job fitting both. You also list a 3 piece slaver, though I only see 2 items for it? If you can't fit the slaver set, maybe try to fit in DoJ goggles?
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Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Dec 23rd, 2017 at 9:57am
Would be better to fit in some hamp and a 2pc slaver set for melee. What good is it if a red named cleaves and you're on timer for a minute. Prolly drop adherent or avenger for it.
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Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Dec 23rd, 2017 at 1:31pm I dont see how remove slave. I using slaves for Max STR and CHA. note: helm slave = seeker, I deception and Q CM. Keep Silent Avenger Set! It is a great bonus for a dps and Legendary Disciple of the Dawn(best outfit atm?). Rubbinns wrote on Dec 23rd, 2017 at 9:57am:
we can remove Adherent but:
+40 heal amp > 20 prr + 10 MP + 20 SP? i prefer keep Adherent. note: +20 SP add more spellpower for coccon. but... What change of the items? be necessary for add CC item. DoJ goggles... i want it! but how :'( Indispensable items: Armor - Silent Avenger Set Belt - Silent Avenger Set Cloak - Silent Avenger Set Ring - Legendary Perfect Pinnacle (Soul of the Elements) 5 Foot Step wrote on Dec 23rd, 2017 at 9:49am:
Want to try building a the end gears list using DOJ goggle + Indispensable items list? slot left:
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Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by 5 Foot Step on Dec 23rd, 2017 at 4:12pm
Right, I derped the slaver pieces.
Anyway... RSO goggles -> DoJ goggles Slaver Ring -> CC ring Cha/Devotion/I Con Lore-Fueled Banner Bracers -> Slaver Bracers Str/Tendon Slice Slaver boots -> Shadow's Footsteps ? |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Rubbinns on Dec 23rd, 2017 at 6:02pm Sonilasfx wrote on Dec 23rd, 2017 at 1:31pm:
depends on your score. it might only be 1-2% decrease. you should wear 2pc lgs hp for meleeing if you plan on doing mid to high reaper. |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Dec 24th, 2017 at 9:02am Rubbinns wrote on Dec 23rd, 2017 at 6:02pm:
Reaper high: Armor - Outfit of the Celestial Guardian or Legendary Disciple of the Dawn Belt - LGS Cloak - Legendary Mantle of Fury (con, ds, dodge) 1 Ring - Legendary Perfect Pinnacle (stun, deadly, soul) 2 Ring - Slave slaves(str, resi, tendo, qstr) Goggles - DoJ (wis, +3ki) Gloves - CC (Dex, healamp, i accuracy or I stun) Bracers - Legendary Lore-Fueled Packbanner (i COn, I dS) Boots - Legendary Flightfoot Greaves(speed, na, fom) Trinket - Echo of Ravenkind(con, ts, ID) Necklace - slave(cha, Seeker, vertigo, q con) H - LGS mising Deception, Ghostly, accuracy... -goggle doj ->LGS -Helmet LGS -> Legendary Executioner's Helm -Necklace - slave(cha, Seeker, vertigo, q con) for Cha, Decep~, vertigo, qcon we need improve it XD |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Dec 24th, 2017 at 12:23pm :D :D :D |
Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by 5 Foot Step on Dec 26th, 2017 at 11:05am
I like that.
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Title: Re: End Gears for an Meele clothing Str base Post by Sonilasfx on Dec 26th, 2017 at 1:32pm
reaper mode remove doj goggles.
high reaper apply drastic reduction of damage for 2d20. Armor - Outfit of the Celestial Guardian or Legendary Disciple of the Dawn note: i prefer tempest armor because have Qdeadly, Qdoublestrike, bla bla... 2 all status isnt much for high reaper. the raven armor have sense if u want silent set(any set of raven). if u dont have interest silent set, Tempest still best(+ DPS). Belt - LGS Cloak - Legendary Mantle of Fury (con, ds, dodge) 1 Ring - Legendary Perfect Pinnacle (stun, deadly, soul) 2 Ring - Slave slaves(str, resi, tendo, qstr) Goggles - LGS Gloves - CC (Dex, healamp, I stun or i accuracy) note: i prefer I stun, +8 for dire charge, jade... Bracers - Legendary Lore-Fueled Packbanner (i COn, I dS) Boots - Legendary Flightfoot Greaves(speed, na, fom) Trinket - Echo of Ravenkind(con, ts, ID) Necklace - slave(Cha, Decep~, vertigo, qcon) H - Legendary Executioner's Helm We are in the final stages to decide the set. We need define two types of set -High skull set Quest or Raid. -Normal/Hard/Elite/Low Reaper Raid or Quest. |
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