Learn the basics first

The reason I took third monk was that the alternative in that build to get the BAB necessary for IPS and GTWF at 15 and 18 was ranger 7(which seemed also useless, in fact more so when +runspeed, special fist, and heal buff are compared to...improved empathy ) To be fair, the whole thought of keeping monk at all by that point was a brainfart.

I'm aware this build may probably suck, but my emphasis on firewall was my set-and-kite strategy to boost my DPS some as an AA. Seeing as to how I underestimated the DCs, that just makes me a combat buffer, and that's what I kinda planned for the spellbook.

If people are ok with taking a pure ranger 28 pt AA into epics enough, I might just go for multiples of 20 of the epic dungeon tokens so I can have a couple TRs saved ahead of time in case of gimp builds(so that I don't have to take THOSE into epics).

I'm going to take this build back to the drawing board and see what I can do to make it not so gimp. Since this is a wiz life build, I might be able to dump monk entirely for ranger 9(1 rng lvl 2 spell), or rogue 3(Traps + 2d6 Sneak Attack) while still getting evasion. I didn't realize it at the time, but now that I think on it, monk would be more suited a splash for paladin/cleric lives. Dumping monk would allow me to skimp on wis for more dex to hit things.

I'm aware that making good uncommon AA combos will be difficult, but I'm willing to listen and try to learn and improve on things.

This character seems backwards. It looks to me that you're really trying to make an epic Arcane Archer (a completionist one which will take you a 6 months at the least) which, ultimately, does not provide sufficient damage or applicable skill to the group. No offense, but if I saw that build hit my LFM you would be ignored, no offense. It's a build that no one (including yourself) seems to really understand. Something that was perhaps thrown together in 20minutes when you convinced yourself that you had an apiffany to make one. In hopes of giving you some guidance I would suggest reconsidering this entire layout.

Want to make a AA? Just go 20 ranger. You'll get all your twf feats for free and, most importantly, the capstone for Ranger Alacrity. Combine that with haste and the quiver from Abbot (yes they do stack) and you're a machine gun. Equip a lightning bow and imbue force arrows and go on an endless rampage of manyshot for 20 seconds, while being able to switch to twf mode while on manyshot cooldown timer, or other things.

TheCube wrote on Nov 10^th, 2010 at 2:37am:


No offense taken. As I said when I replied to SpookyMulder, I listened to what's been said and realised after the fact that there was just no point in having taken monk at ALL for evasion since I needed that extra non-wizard level for the BAB to get my feats. I could have gone ranger 9 and gotten equal or more benefit.

It is true I'm going to go for an epic completionist AA, with all lives also AAs. Fortunately, this is not that build; it's just the Get A Wizard Life build, and it's not even going to be that since I am going to rework the entire thing. I have time to figure out a better build; my toon isn't anywhere near 20 yet.

TheCube wrote on Nov 10^th, 2010 at 2:37am:


That's what my first life is: A pure elf ranger AA with level ups in str and enhancements for dex. I find it interesting you reccommend the magic missile burst arrows rather than the slayers. I'm to guess that's for higher consistent damage instead of huge damage on vorpals.

Thanks for telling me which piece of loot actually stacks with haste/capstone; that'll save me the trouble of hunting every single AA goodie only to have to discern what does/doesn't work together.

Epoch wrote on Nov 10^th, 2010 at 5:51am:


So...20 wizard, use wizard bonus feats for metamagics and PrE prereq(s), and all the normal feats for AA/Ranged stuff + toughness, right? And thus say screw melee/TWF on wiz life? Could I go 18 wizard/2 rogue for evasion, sneak attack, and trapskills/UMD? My AA Completionist Challenge will require I be Elf(Half Elves are out of the question), so I'll need some ways to heal and survive things that a WF could just batter through and selfrepair afterwards.



Do monk or paladin clicky powers even WORK with bows? I'll need to know for when I get to THOSE lives.

Tydeth wrote on Nov 10^th, 2010 at 10:56am:


Monk and pally clickies? You mean like the paladin past life for +3 to-hit/dmg? Yes, they work for bows, similar to how you could take a rage potion and do more bow dmg. If you're going to be a wizard at all during this AA spiel (something I wouldn't personally do because I like the free ranger feats and capstone as a 20 ranger), then make it a WF but go 18/2. This was you can get the whole line AA while maintaining self-healing and getting bow strength along the way.

At that point, it's up to you to decide whether or not you want to bother with twf, in which case, you'll have to work on fitting in those feats. Otherwise, I can see it being a fun build. Full benefits of a caster, self-buffs and all, combined with the damage of an AA, adding additional DPS to group. Also may want to consider making it non-wf and possibly going into lich mode with death aura for self-healing.

@Cube: Monk(With Zen Archery making bows into Ki Weapons) and paladin clickies = their actual class abilities, like Smite Evil, the +1d6 Elemental attacks of the monk, void strike, divine sacrifice, touch of death(Slaying Arrows of Death? Redundantly Awesome!), stuff like those.

Problem with being a WF arcane for this is the whole Completionist run I'm going for is ALL lives are AA, so I have to be either 18+ ranger or an elf, so no WF wizard for the life for that toon(I do have WF Wizzies on a couple other servers. Haven't played them much but from what I've seen, they kick ass).

However, the pale master lich form is a good idea. I'll just have to keep an eye out for clerics/FVS wanting to buff the group with Death Ward in quests that feature enemies that use neg energy attacks...especially since the TARDIS-esque sound and green hamster ball get annoying to some. Death Ward + Lich/Wraith Form = NO healing period.

@scraap:

Thanks for letting me know at least one pally clicky should work.