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The ban had to do with switch pulling
Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:42pm
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Apparently there was an exploit with the switches that somehow guaranteed a spectral scale for everyone in the instance.

Everyone in an instance where this happened got a 3 day ban.

People pulling switches specifically to trigger the exploit (still don't know exactly what it was) got a 30 day ban.

Normal switch pullers got a warning.

Heard this from a family friend who works for Turbine, doubt me if you will, but husband just got off the phone with him.
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #1 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:45pm
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Well fuck. Explains why I'm not banned, at least.
  
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Reply #2 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:46pm
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I'm calling BS on this one. You had to pull the levers to kill the dragon, so how can that be an exploit.
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #3 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:47pm
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LAME! More details would be good though.
  

Turbine is a company, not your friend.

If a company you have been loyal to suddenly changes their product so that it either is worse or not even working any more then only a complete fool would continue to patronize them.

Business only understands one thing, the bottom line.

The posters above who have a delusional perception of their relationship with Turbine seem to be suffering from Stockholm syndrome.
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #4 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:47pm
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I pulled levers, but didn't get scales when we failed. Weird.
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #5 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:47pm
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siftrant wrote on Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:46pm:
I'm calling BS on this one. You had to pull the levers to kill the dragon, so how can that be an exploit.


Considering the lever killed the dragon, I wouldn't be surprised if there was an exploit that instantly killed it from 100% hp.
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #6 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:48pm
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Wait ... being randomly slotted in an instance with someone who knew how to do something and did it got you a flipping ban?  Seriously?

I pulled switches personally once.  Well, twice really.  I pulled the switch once, forgot to put quicken on and managed one more pull before I failed to get off a wall of fire and died at the switch (haha).  One instance, two actual pulls.

So what you're saying is that someone, who likely I don't know and isn't one of my 4 physical guild-mates and friends, did something and I got a ban.  Seriously?
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #7 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:48pm
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Guess that's plausible. But I got a 3 day ban and don't seem to have gotten a scale ahead of the dragon's death...then again, with him in a different room 75% of the time it's not always easy to tell.
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #8 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:48pm
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So if you were never in the switch room, why should i be banned for what someone else did? Doesn't make sense whatsoever, so i am just very Pissed off about this.
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #9 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:49pm
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siftrant wrote on Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:46pm:
I'm calling BS on this one. You had to pull the levers to kill the dragon, so how can that be an exploit.


There weren't a lot of details in the phone call, being as we called him at 11:30 PM after he'd worked for 13 hours.

From what it sounds like they handed out the bans and went home for the night. Might be another round in the morning for all we know.
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #10 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:52pm
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Sirea wrote on Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:49pm:
There weren't a lot of details in the phone call, being as we called him at 11:30 PM after he'd worked for 13 hours.

From what it sounds like they handed out the bans and went home for the night. Might be another round in the morning for all we know.


Well I got a ban, and know nothing about a lever exploit. So it is either (a) something that you could have done completely accidentally, which isn't much of an exploit to get banned for or (b) not the reason. If it is (A) then turbine investigations are for crap.
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #11 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:53pm
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siftrant wrote on Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:52pm:
Well I got a ban, and know nothing about a lever exploit. So it is either (a) something that you could have done completely accidentally, which isn't much of an exploit to get banned for or (b) not the reason. If it is (A) then turbine investigations are for crap.


It wouldn't be the first time.

It's pretty rich that they can ban you for being in an instance with someone who's exploiting when you had no fucking choice who you were instanced with or if exploits are happening.
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #12 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:53pm
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thanks for any info you're giving..


we shall see.

gotta love how random people get a permanent mark on their record.



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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #13 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:53pm
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I'm not doubting you but... HUH???  I never heard that everyone wasn't supposed to get a scale, never heard that there was a way to guarantee it happening and never did anything but try to keep the lever pulled.  All in all, I'm still confused  Sad
  

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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #14 - Nov 9th, 2010 at 11:55pm
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that cant be it. i played a caster for the whole event. i soloed levers up top using firewall, ive been down on the floors flinging firewalls for gargoyles, and other shit for the dragon. i spent 4 days in shortman instances and full ones, working as a team or solo, whichever was called for. i spent 4 days in one spot when not in a dragon, nukin shit while having draughts running constant. who as a caster didnt??
and.....wait for it........it was guaranteed a spectral scale for everyone upon defeating the dragon. i got many many, and never dualboxed. so, in essence your "source" can suck it. seems i would have got more than a warning, and some guildies i know had toons banned that never logged in for the mabar event, being mules. some for 3, some for 7, and several warnings. seen some others with 30 day bans.
but still, your source can suck it
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #15 - Nov 10th, 2010 at 12:02am
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Hum I never pulled a lever; every time I ran I got a scale. I am banned for 7 days. But what I can and did do is cancel my subscription. I am not given money to a company that is working like communists and deleting what people are talking about and not given a reason for bans. Everyone can do what they fell is right but I will no longer pay for this.

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It sounds like pulling a lever normally in an exploited instance merely gets you a warning.

Why merely a warning, I have no damn clue.
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #17 - Nov 10th, 2010 at 12:19am
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Backley wrote on Nov 10th, 2010 at 12:15am:
You may have heard correctly from your source, but this doesn't make logical sense.

To get a warning but no ban, you had to be a "Normal switch puller" but not "in an instance where this happened"

So, any pulling of switches got you a warning?!?


I could have been wrong about the normal switch pulling. I am hearing this secondhand of course. I just wanted to post what I'd heard to give others an idea for the reasoning behind the ban and was in a rush.

sirgog also posted something to this effect on the other forums:

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=3398347&postcount=23

In case the thread gets deleted, here's what he said:

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From what I've heard, one person in an instance does something *very bad*. They get a 30 day ban.

Then the other 23 people in there unknowingly benefit from the actions of the *very bad* person. Turbine assumes tehy are guilty, and gives them a warning (if it happened once), a 3 day holiday (twice) or a 5-7 day one (3+ times).

Key word is unknowingly. It'd be like me going to work at a pub, getting paid reasonable money for it, thinking all is fine, then three months later getting charged because the manager of that pub was making money from selling drugs on the side.
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #18 - Nov 10th, 2010 at 12:23am
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Sirea wrote on Nov 10th, 2010 at 12:19am:
I could have been wrong about the normal switch pulling. I am hearing this secondhand of course. I just wanted to post what I'd heard to give others an idea for the reasoning behind the ban and was in a rush.

sirgog also posted something to this effect on the other forums:

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=3398347&postcount=23

In case the thread gets deleted, here's what he said:



The little birdy was probably your post here, and now you are using his post to support yours. Smiley
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #19 - Nov 10th, 2010 at 12:23am
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well I can say I was nowhere near a lever in all 5 dragons I attended I was always in the altars..
therefore I don't see myself as a banned "object"

and I honestly don't believe all the hype behind the lever story either.



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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #20 - Nov 10th, 2010 at 12:24am
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siftrant wrote on Nov 10th, 2010 at 12:23am:
The little birdy was probably your post here, and now you are using his post to support yours. Smiley


Eh, his info is slightly different from mine though. He could have a source as well. Like, I didn't know that the length of the smaller bans was related to how many times you were in an instance that this happened in.
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #21 - Nov 10th, 2010 at 12:32am
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Sirea wrote on Nov 10th, 2010 at 12:19am:
I could have been wrong about the normal switch pulling. I am hearing this secondhand of course. I just wanted to post what I'd heard to give others an idea for the reasoning behind the ban and was in a rush.

sirgog also posted something to this effect on the other forums:

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=3398347&postcount=23

In case the thread gets deleted, here's what he said:



Yep.  Deleted.
  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #22 - Nov 10th, 2010 at 12:32am
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Yo Yo all!!

I just got a 3 day ban, so came here of course to see what the hell its all about lol.
I'm still not sure what it is going on but I look forward to hearing from people what I supposedly did....

I ran about ahh.... 6 dragon instances over the event? maybe 8?
I was once down in the pit putting firewalls on the dragon.

Every single other time I was in an instance (on WF Wizzy) I was soloing one of the levers.
I did what I thought I had to here.. Keep the lever pulled at all times.. Never let it get deactivated.
Kept my firewalls up, and killed the gargoyles as they came.

I was in one or two fail runs.. (In which i did not get a scale).

Very curious about this one... (first ban lol).
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #23 - Nov 10th, 2010 at 12:33am
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turbine are covering up something huge...hence the deletions of everything related to it..

  
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Re: The ban had to do with switch pulling
Reply #24 - Nov 10th, 2010 at 1:21am
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Was in several dragon fights. Did not get a scale every time, had at least one fail (maybe two? wasn't counting). Played on two servers.

Operated a switch once, pulled it constantly the whole time because I didn't know any better.

Otherwise was in altar rooms. Spent about half the time being too lagged to do anything.

Banned three days.

Regarding other theories:

Sometimes people had pets and sometimes they didn't. Don't remember if I ever pulled one out myself.

Don't think I ever D/C'd but who knows maybe I am forgetting one.

I did cast mass invisibility on an altar once.
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