I'm TRing my bard, BOOMPH.

2 Rogue gets me:

A shit ton of skill points I could give a shit about.
Evasion I could give a shit about.
6.5 SA Damage.

2 Fighter gets me:

1 Str point.
Fighter PL feat or Extend
GTHF

The big question is:

Does GTHF net more damage than 6.5 SA?

Discuss/Flame.

You're all a bunch of cunts.

Level 20 True Neutral Half-Orc Male
(2 Fighter \ 6 Barbarian \ 12 Bard)
Hit Points: 366
Spell Points: 388
BAB: 17\17\22\27\27
Fortitude: 17
Reflex: 10
Will: 10

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             20                    30
Dexterity             8                    10
Constitution         16                    20
Intelligence          8                    10
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma             12                    16

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               3                    17
Bluff                 1                     3
Concentration         7                    22
Diplomacy             1                     3
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle                1                     3
Heal                 -1                     0
Hide                 -1                     0
Intimidate            1                    27
Jump                  5                    13
Listen               -1                     0
Move Silently        -1                     0
Open Lock            n/a                    n/a
Perform               5                    26
Repair               -1                     0
Search               -1                     0
Spot                 -1                     0
Swim                  5                    10
Tumble                3                     4
Use Magic Device      5                    26

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Wand and Scroll Mastery I


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I


Level 3 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Sprint Boost I
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Extra Song I


Level 4 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 5 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness I


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 7 (Bard)
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II


Level 8 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter I


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Student of the Sword


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II


Level 11 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 12 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting


Level 13 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Damage Boost II
Enhancement: Barbarian Power Rage I
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II


Level 14 (Barbarian)
Enhancement: Barbarian Toughness II


Level 15 (Barbarian)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Barbarian Frenzied Berserker I
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude II


Level 16 (Bard)
Enhancement: Barbarian Constitution II


Level 17 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack II
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Orcish Fury I


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Orcish Power Rage I
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude III


Level 19 (Bard)


Level 20 (Bard)
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery III
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Warchanter II

Gunga wrote on Nov 15^th, 2010 at 9:00pm:


Emocle Wih

woody wrote on Nov 15^th, 2010 at 9:07pm:


That's the way I'm leaning. I'd like to see what works out to be higher dps, though, GTHF or the SA.

Gunga wrote on Nov 15^th, 2010 at 9:24pm:


If you are a big pugger like I am or like to solo, I would go 2 fig as you will prolly be holding most the aggro in the group once the build hits it's stride and your SA will be worthless. Also imo 2 rogue should not be taken just for SA. Evasion and skill points were always the reason I saw for rogue splash. SA was always an afterthought not a determining factor.

Also just out of curiosity what wep were you planning on running with? I was gearing up for Falch for the crits.

garbage

MrCow was kind enough to confirm...9.1 Avg Dmg per swing with GTHF vs 6.5 SA situationally.

Fighter wins this race.