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H4x's Rep got reset
Jan 11th, 2011 at 11:55pm
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Earlier today his sig was how because he had almost -4000 rep that the rep was obviously broken.

Now his rep has been reset
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=3526226#post3526226
How long before he beats his old record?
  

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Reply #1 - Jan 12th, 2011 at 12:04am
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Not enough rep to neg, but the "and please stop hunting me" does seem to fall under the box ya get when the up or down pops on up listing:

inflamatory (looking for a fight),

derogatogatory (talking down to as if you were a child),

disruptive (the threads only tangentially to do with the tard, but he's trying to make it specifically about his actions, and not rules clarifications),

and fairly obviously trolling for a response. 

jus sayin.
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Reply #2 - Jan 12th, 2011 at 12:09am
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Hmm... Pardon me for asking this, but is discussing the results of actions taken regarding your account by the mods against the rules of the forum? Seems like someone might have cause to report him now, were they so inclined. Wink

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Reply #3 - Jan 12th, 2011 at 1:27am
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Ri-fucking-diculous.


Hey Jerry - I know you read this forum. So, let me just ask in the parlance of this board... What the fuck, man? What the fuck are you Mods thinking?

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Reply #4 - Jan 12th, 2011 at 9:14am
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Memnir wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 1:27am:
Ri-fucking-diculous.


Hey Jerry - I know you read this forum. So, let me just ask in the parlance of this board... What the fuck, man? What the fuck are you Mods thinking?

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Please pass that along to the rest of the team, Jerry.

I would like to piggy back on this.  Consider it /signed.
  
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Reply #5 - Jan 12th, 2011 at 9:41am
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Once upon a time, I taught an Algebra class that was completely full of fail.

Half way through the second quarter, I told everyone in the class that I was going to engage in an act of mercy and completely throw away their grades for that marking period so that we could all start over.

One girl in the class had an A at that point and at the beginning of class, I told her to not get upset by anything that I said in class that day and to see me after class.

After class, she came up to me and asked me how I could do something like that.  The class as a whole was terrible and she was essentially the only person in the class who put *any* effort into learning, so how could I just give them a free pass on their complete lack of effort in that marking period while taking away the rewards of all of her effort?

I explained that she was going to get an A, pretty much no matter what happened, so she didn't need to worry about that part at least.  And as for the rest of the class, it's my job to teach them.  If they all give up because they don't think that there is any way to pass the class no matter what they do, then they won't learn anything at all.  If they think that they have a second chance, then maybe, just maybe, some of them will take that opportunity and make something of it.

3 other students in that class actually took the opportunity that I presented and turned their attitude and work around.  All four of the students who decided to actually work in class got A's and the girl who had been doing good work since day 1 actually got to have a study group and she didn't have to do as much work on her own any more.

I like second chances.  People usually don't take advantage of them, but sometimes they work.
  

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popejubal wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 9:41am:
Once upon a time, I taught an Algebra class that was completely full of fail.

Half way through the second quarter, I told everyone in the class that I was going to engage in an act of mercy and completely throw away their grades for that marking period so that we could all start over.

One girl in the class had an A at that point and at the beginning of class, I told her to not get upset by anything that I said in class that day and to see me after class.

After class, she came up to me and asked me how I could do something like that.  The class as a whole was terrible and she was essentially the only person in the class who put *any* effort into learning, so how could I just give them a free pass on their complete lack of effort in that marking period while taking away the rewards of all of her effort?

I explained that she was going to get an A, pretty much no matter what happened, so she didn't need to worry about that part at least.  And as for the rest of the class, it's my job to teach them.  If they all give up because they don't think that there is any way to pass the class no matter what they do, then they won't learn anything at all.  If they think that they have a second chance, then maybe, just maybe, some of them will take that opportunity and make something of it.

3 other students in that class actually took the opportunity that I presented and turned their attitude and work around.  All four of the students who decided to actually work in class got A's and the girl who had been doing good work since day 1 actually got to have a study group and she didn't have to do as much work on her own any more.

I like second chances.  People usually don't take advantage of them, but sometimes they work
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Agreed.

But does ANYONE really think HaX will learn anything?  Besides how to better bait posters.

Best thing to do with that d-bag, /ignore and report his posts for baiting/trolling when applicable.

Report him for the shit he says in General/PvP pits.

  
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Reply #7 - Jan 12th, 2011 at 10:03am
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popejubal wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 9:41am:
3 other students in that class actually took the opportunity that I presented and turned their attitude and work around.  All four of the students who decided to actually work in class got A's


Off topic, but I'm curious.  Did the 3 students get D's or A's at the end of the year?   Basically, I'm wondering if you rewarded them for their failings.
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Reply #8 - Jan 12th, 2011 at 10:08am
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popejubal wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 9:41am:
Once upon a time, I taught an Algebra class that was completely full of fail.

Half way through the second quarter, I told everyone in the class that I was going to engage in an act of mercy and completely throw away their grades for that marking period so that we could all start over.

One girl in the class had an A at that point and at the beginning of class, I told her to not get upset by anything that I said in class that day and to see me after class.

After class, she came up to me and asked me how I could do something like that.  The class as a whole was terrible and she was essentially the only person in the class who put *any* effort into learning, so how could I just give them a free pass on their complete lack of effort in that marking period while taking away the rewards of all of her effort?

I explained that she was going to get an A, pretty much no matter what happened, so she didn't need to worry about that part at least.  And as for the rest of the class, it's my job to teach them.  If they all give up because they don't think that there is any way to pass the class no matter what they do, then they won't learn anything at all.  If they think that they have a second chance, then maybe, just maybe, some of them will take that opportunity and make something of it.

3 other students in that class actually took the opportunity that I presented and turned their attitude and work around.  All four of the students who decided to actually work in class got A's and the girl who had been doing good work since day 1 actually got to have a study group and she didn't have to do as much work on her own any more.

I like second chances.  People usually don't take advantage of them, but sometimes they work.


I think it is 2 different type of situations though. IMO, this is not a reset because they think he will "learn something", this is a reset because he has painted himself as some kind of victim. I know its extreme, but it's like a person breaking into your home, and then playing the victim when you shoot them for it (while still in your home). What they did is NOT the way they should have gone.
  
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Nevthial wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 10:03am:
Off topic, but I'm curious.  Did the 3 students get D's or A's at the end of the year?   Basically, I'm wondering if you rewarded them for their failings.


The other three students got B's for their final grade in the course.  I didn't reward them for their initial failings, but I did reward them for their turnaround and their end result.  All 4 got A's on their final exam, so I'm personally happy to give them at least a B as their course grade.  The girl who started with an A also ended the class with an A.  In addition, she had an A- in her Art class across the hall and I mentioned to that teacher how I actually wanted to give her a grade higher than an A, but we didn't have "A+" available as an option in course grading, so the Art teacher actually bumped her up from an A- to an A.  I didn't ask the Art teacher to do that, but I'm glad she did.

I would prefer to simply grade students on what they had learned since that is the whole point of school, but that isn't allowed and also doesn't work for most students, unfortunately.
  

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Reply #10 - Jan 12th, 2011 at 10:17am
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Agreed.

But does ANYONE really think HaX will learn anything?  Besides how to better bait posters.

Best thing to do with that d-bag, /ignore and report his posts for baiting/trolling when applicable.

Report him for the shit he says in General/PvP pits.



I honestly don't expect that H4x will learn anything.  I always hold out hope that it could happen, though.
  

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flynnjsw wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 10:08am:
I think it is 2 different type of situations though. IMO, this is not a reset because they think he will "learn something", this is a reset because he has painted himself as some kind of victim. I know its extreme, but it's like a person breaking into your home, and then playing the victim when you shoot them for it (while still in your home). What they did is NOT the way they should have gone.


I live near Amish country.  Soemtimes people break into Amish homes.  I don't know why they do that, since the Amish don't really have much that you could steal, but sometimes it happens.

Whenever people break into an Amish house, the Amish don't shoot the intruder.  They don't even call the police (obviously, since they don't have a phone).  Burglaries and home invasions are still exceptionally rare even though the Amish don't shoot intruders.

Do the rare burglars learn anything from the example that the Amish provide them?  Probably not.  Is it still right for the Amish to forgive them?  Absolutely.
  

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popejubal wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 10:23am:
I live near Amish country.  Soemtimes people break into Amish homes.  I don't know why they do that, since the Amish don't really have much that you could steal, but sometimes it happens.

Whenever people break into an Amish house, the Amish don't shoot the intruder.  They don't even call the police (obviously, since they don't have a phone).  Burglaries and home invasions are still exceptionally rare even though the Amish don't shoot intruders.

Do the rare burglars learn anything from the example that the Amish provide them?  Probably not.  Is it still right for the Amish to forgive them?  Absolutely.


Odd to see a horse and buggy driving down the side of the road in this day and age...

Yea, I live near Amish country too...

  
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popejubal wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 10:23am:
Is it still right for the Amish to forgive them?  Absolutely.

Fuck no.  Forgiveness is earned.  Otherwise the lesson is wasted, and the fucksticks learn that there are no consequences for their fuckmuppetry.
  
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popejubal wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 10:23am:
I live near Amish country.  Soemtimes people break into Amish homes.  I don't know why they do that, since the Amish don't really have much that you could steal, but sometimes it happens.

Whenever people break into an Amish house, the Amish don't shoot the intruder.  They don't even call the police (obviously, since they don't have a phone).  Burglaries and home invasions are still exceptionally rare even though the Amish don't shoot intruders.

Do the rare burglars learn anything from the example that the Amish provide them?  Probably not.  Is it still right for the Amish to forgive them?  Absolutely.


The world could actually probably learn a lot from the Amish. I will not dispute that. It does not change my statement though. H4X is playing the victim, and not only some other forum posters, but the mods bought the act. THAT is where the difference lies IMO.
  
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Reply #15 - Jan 12th, 2011 at 11:50am
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Nevynn wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 11:41am:
Fuck no.  Forgiveness is earned.  Otherwise the lesson is wasted, and the fucksticks learn that there are no consequences for their fuckmuppetry.


Some dude named Jesus disagrees with you.  If you don't follow him, that's cool with me.  The Amish do want to follow him, so it's necessary for them to forgive others of their tresspasses.

Also, forgiveness doesn't have to be connected with consequences in any way.  The Amish will cooperate with police investigations even while they forgive people who commit crimes against them.  The forgiveness is given because it is right and because it is good, not because the criminal deserves it.
  

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popejubal wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 11:50am:
Some dude named Jesus disagrees with you.  If you don't follow him, that's cool with me.  The Amish do want to follow him, so it's necessary for them to forgive others of their tresspasses.

Also, forgiveness doesn't have to be connected with consequences in any way.  The Amish will cooperate with police investigations even while they forgive people who commit crimes against them.  The forgiveness is given because it is right and because it is good, not because the criminal deserves it.


A point, though a bit of clarification there, I seem to also recollect a bit about render unto Ceasar, which would be the bit about still involving law enforcement in the matter.

Forgiveness vs Consequences are always a tricky thing, since leaning too far to the former leads to enabling further actions. Leaning too far the other way of course, doesn't give folks time to learn from their mistakes.

As a general philosophy, I personally prefer "least harm" scenarios. Sometimes the only way to stop a man running off a cliff in time is to shoot him in the leg.

On the general underlying issue -

I would say by and large, if the concern is revenge vs correction, one thing they could do is permanent removal of rep-points every time neg is given. That should, in theory, at least slow down anyone that would choose to get overly petty and run a train on someone else's rep bar.

On the specific poster -

It's not it's first reset. I can remember at least once before this one when it was reset. Make of that what you will.
  
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popejubal wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 10:16am:
The other three students got B's for their final grade in the course.  I didn't reward them for their initial failings, but I did reward them for their turnaround and their end result.  All 4 got A's on their final exam, so I'm personally happy to give them at least a B as their course grade.  The girl who started with an A also ended the class with an A.  In addition, she had an A- in her Art class across the hall and I mentioned to that teacher how I actually wanted to give her a grade higher than an A, but we didn't have "A+" available as an option in course grading, so the Art teacher actually bumped her up from an A- to an A.  I didn't ask the Art teacher to do that, but I'm glad she did.

I would prefer to simply grade students on what they had learned since that is the whole point of school, but that isn't allowed and also doesn't work for most students, unfortunately.


Honestly, I don't see how decent teachers put up with the stress of dealing with the way things are nowadays.   I'd rather face off a hungry Kodiak with toenail clippers than do what you do!!    Glad to see that their are still teachers worth their salt though. Much props to ya!
  
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Reply #18 - Jan 12th, 2011 at 2:16pm
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Hopefully they're doing the reset on the understanding that any new rep earned will be examined by a mod and if he falls to moderated land again he's done.
  
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The cube locked your thread Mem Sad

And apparently didn't read a single post in there. The link s/he gave is the same old outdated one in your OP. Reading is FUNdamental!  Grin
  
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Darkrok wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 2:16pm:
Hopefully they're doing the reset on the understanding that any new rep earned will be examined by a mod and if he falls to moderated land again he's done.


I hope not they don't examine it! I neg'd h4x immediately. Of course, I totally felt he was trolling and that's an acceptable reason for neg rep, right?
  
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rest wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 2:18pm:
The cube locked your thread Mem Sad

And apparently didn't read a single post in there. The link s/he gave is the same old outdated one in your OP. Reading is FUNdamental!  Grin


He didn't.

Sad.

But on the funny side, HaX is posting again.  He must have gotten talked to by the MODs, he second post is not the same HaX.  Mommy maybe?

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I've talked to him a few times, he's not so bad when you talk to him over mic or whatever since there is no way to report you over mic. However he is a complete faggot noob bitch in game. It just shows you that if there is no consequences to your actions then you will continue to misbehave and act like a faggot. This isn't going to teach him anything, he's just going to act like a faggot again.
  
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Soul wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 3:13pm:
I've talked to him a few times, he's not so bad when you talk to him over mic or whatever since there is no way to report you over mic. However he is a complete faggot noob bitch in game. It just shows you that if there is no consequences to your actions then you will continue to misbehave and act like a faggot. This isn't going to teach him anything, he's just going to act like a faggot again.


Him being nice over a mic and a bitch in game and forums just means he is a coward as well.
  

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Shaamis wrote on Jan 12th, 2011 at 4:44pm:
Him being nice over a mic and a bitch in game and forums just means he is a coward as well.



Gotta agree. If hes a cocksucker, he should be a cocksucker in all facets of his life.

Personally I dont treat people different in game then I do in rl. I know many say, "Oh its just a game" "Or oh its just a board" I dont play by those rules.

Ive met some great people in game, and on message boards throughout life, many have gone on to be rl friends. So for me, my behavior in game, is just like my behavior out of game.
  

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