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Idea to Make Plat Useful
Jan 17th, 2011 at 1:08pm
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Just posted this on the forums, and figured I would do it here as well. Be nice Cheesy

Currently the money set up is
10cp=1sp
10sp=1gp
10gp=1pp

So the money range is 1,000cp=1pp

This setup wouldn't be that bad, but when you are getting 10pp a quest starting in Korthos, and it only goes up from the substantially, the worth of plat quickly becomes minimal.

Now, in a world where a couple platinum pieces would make a poor family pretty well off, being able to sell a single piece of trash to get that seems kind of ridiculous.

Bartering high level items, is really the only way to buy other high level items, because you can't carry enough plat to buy them.

So what I am proposing would be a change in the money system. The two I think could work are these;
10cp-1sp
100sp-1gp
1,000gp-1pp

So the money range list is now 1,000,000cp-1pp a huge difference. Plat would essentially have 1,000x more value then it currently does.

This, I believe, is the setup in the 4.0 rulebooks. (I would have to double check) I think some people might find this way hard to remember, so my other suggested setup is.
100cp-1sp
100sp-1gp
100gp-1pp

This also brings the money range to 1,000,000-1pp as well. Easier to remember. (for some)

I think it would be fairly easy to switch to this.

You can either divide current players plat by 1,000. This wouldn't be perfect, but be a good start off.
You could leave player's money as it is. This would cause prices to stay where they were for now, with it slowly going down as people loose money to the plat sink.
Then there's probably a way to switch all the player's money to copper, then once the switch occurs, switch it back. This could be hard to implement, but would keep a player's worth equal to what it was before.

If course all vendor prices, all quest rewards, and item values would reflect the change. Where before you would get 100gp out of a chest, you would now get 1gp. Instead of paying 35pp for XXXX potion, you would now be paying 3.5gp. Eventually prices will even out, this may even cause a great plat sink as first, as people would post things for the same amount of plat as before, for a little bit I would imagine, then every time one of those items are purchased it's actually 1,000x more of a plat sink as before.

Things wouldn't change too much, once people start posting things at the new prices, however if they left the plat cap at what it currently is, then people could actually start paying for high end items with their plat. The game would probably have to return to the gold standard, but other than that, I don't think there would be a significant downside. It would make a new player getting their first 1,000 plat feel significant, and not just a meh feeling.

Anyways, hope I explained it well. I would also like to here other people's idea to make plat feel more like a world's highest monetary value, and less like silver dollars, that are cool to have, but really aren't worth all that much.

To sum up, the cap currently is 4,300,000pp I believe. So if we do this change, leave the cap where it is, those people sitting at cap would now only have 4,300pp. Currently, this is something you can usually achieve in three days, on a brand new character, with no help. This allows people to carry substantially more money and make having 1,000pp mean something.
  

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Re: Idea to Make Plat Useful
Reply #1 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 1:14pm
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You understand that this is a D&D game? That it's been a core part for about the last 40 years? No? I didn't think so, have a nice day anf GFY  Grin
  

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Reply #2 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:03pm
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Uhgungawa wrote on Jan 17th, 2011 at 1:14pm:
You understand that this is a D&D game? That it's been a core part for about the last 40 years? No? I didn't think so, have a nice day anf GFY  Grin

At least he made no mention of Electrum.  <shudder>
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:15pm
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Nevynn wrote on Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:03pm:
At least he made no mention of Electrum.  <shudder>


I used to hate EP just because it was the only monetary value that didn't follow the 10:1.

OP, the problem is just the game lacking more plat sinks. You do not need to change what plat is worth.
  
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Reply #4 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:19pm
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you and Hax should go have some mutant babies.

Dumbest idea this month.
  


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Re: Idea to Make Plat Useful
Reply #5 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:25pm
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I already explained my position on the other forums.

Since this is the Vault...

The idea is fucking stupid.

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What happened to this



it might be time to check your medical history and make sure that you still have the same allergy's.
  

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Reply #7 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:42pm
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Zippo wrote on Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:34pm:
...allergy's.


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Reply #8 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:57pm
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Arkat wrote on Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:42pm:
You should never correct anyone's spelling ever again.  Tongue

(That is you who does that right? Am I thinking of someone else...Epoch maybe? If so, sorry.)



yeah Epoch loves grammar trolling

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Reply #9 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:58pm
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The problem isn't what a platinum piece is worth.  The problem is inflation.  Turbine is essentially printing money (when we loot) faster than they are removing it from the system (when we buy stuff or pay a fee).
  
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Reply #10 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 3:03pm
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Alekx wrote on Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:57pm:
yeah Epoch loves grammar trolling

I do it only when it is extremely annoying or dumb, like that helper's chick.


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Re: Idea to Make Plat Useful
Reply #11 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 3:04pm
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Inkblack wrote on Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:58pm:
The problem isn't what a platinum piece is worth.  The problem is inflation.  Turbine is essentially printing money (when we loot) faster than they are removing it from the system (when we buy stuff or pay a fee).


This.  That auction-house-30%-is-evil thread is filled with stupid, but I do definately agree with them that DDO needs more plat sinks.

Sadly, all the potential plat sinks that Turbine has come up with, they've priced in Turbine Points or Astral Diamonds instead of plat.
  

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Reply #12 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 3:12pm
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I have really good or really stupid idea for a plat sink. A gambling den. You don't get plat back on a win you get an item from the points store the more you bet the better the item in question if you win.
  

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Reply #13 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 3:18pm
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This is the dumbest thing I've read all day, which says something considering I just read general chat in the Harbor.
  
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This is the dumbest thing I've read all day, which says something considering I just read general chat in the Harbor.


Hey I said it was probably a really stupid idea.  Grin
  

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Arkat wrote on Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:42pm:
You should never correct anyone's spelling ever again.  Tongue

(That is you who does that right? Am I thinking of someone else...Epoch maybe? If so, sorry.)


No grammar Nazi here.
  

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TWDiggs wrote on Jan 17th, 2011 at 3:12pm:
I have really good or really stupid idea for a plat sink. A gambling den. You don't get plat back on a win you get an item from the points store the more you bet the better the item in question if you win.



didnt they have a version of this in the phoenix and inj the leaky dinghy ? Id love some gambling games worth gear / ingredients / rare collectables
  

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Reply #17 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 3:56pm
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Alekx wrote on Jan 17th, 2011 at 3:35pm:
didnt they have a version of this in the phoenix and inj the leaky dinghy ? Id love some gambling games worth gear / ingredients / rare collectables


They do have a "Casino" in the rear of the Phoenix, but it doesn't give you anything worthwhile, so there is no incentive to actually play.
  
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Reply #18 - Jan 17th, 2011 at 4:01pm
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Dude, you should post your idiotic suggestions on the other forums, where people are forced to be somewhat nice to you.
At least they have a suggestions forum there.
  

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Arkat wrote on Jan 17th, 2011 at 2:42pm:
You should never correct anyone's spelling ever again.  Tongue

(That is you who does that right? Am I thinking of someone else...Epoch maybe? If so, sorry.)


At your service!

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Reply #20 - Jan 18th, 2011 at 10:50am
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You based your argument on the fact 4th edition does something and that therefore you should do it to. Your argument automatically fails. Tongue
  

                           

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Re: Idea to Make Plat Useful
Reply #21 - Jan 19th, 2011 at 10:41am
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I have a great idea for plat, sell it to websites for real money.
  

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Reply #22 - Jan 19th, 2011 at 11:05am
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Epoch wrote on Jan 19th, 2011 at 10:41am:
I have a great idea for plat, sell it to websites for real money.


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Reply #23 - Jan 19th, 2011 at 11:11am
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I think that the original idea kind of sucks, but I do applaud the OP for making an effort there.

It would be nice to have plat be useful for more than Haste pots and Heal scrolls.
  

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Reply #24 - Jan 19th, 2011 at 11:22am
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I keep wondering if they should do something like EVE Online.

sell 1 month of VIP for 5 mil plat
OR
sell 1k TP for 5 mil plat

There is so much plat floating around that the VIP/TP would have to sell for a stupid amount to get rid of a serious chunk of the plat.  I still don't know if its a good idea or not, because there are definitely pros and cons.
  
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