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Lacer - The Revenant Build
Feb 24th, 2011 at 12:55pm
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Lacer 
Level 20 True Neutral Human Female
(20 Wizard)- Past Lives: 3Wizard 1Sorcerer 1Bard
Hit Points: 472+45GS+40SFL+20Yugo+10GHfv+20Rage=607
Spell Points: 1895+200AM+150GS=2245

BAB: 10/10/15/20
Fortitude: 21+5Resistance+4GH+2GL=32
Reflex: 26+5Resistance+4GH+2GL=37 
Will: 17+5Resistance+4GH+2GL=28 

              Starting     Ending    
Abilities    Base Stats  Base Stats   
(36 Point)    (Level 1) (Level 20)      
Strength            8      10+6Item+1LOTD+1Exc=18                
Dexterity           8      10                
Constitution       18      23+7Item+3Exc+1LOTD+4Lich+2Ship+2Yugo=42                
Intelligence       18      33+7Item+3Exc+1LOTD+2Lich+2Ship+2Yugo+2Store=52               
Wisdom              8      10+6Item+2Lich+1LOTD+1Exc=20             
Charisma           12      14+6Item+2Lich+1LOTD+1Exc=24
               
Intelligence: 52+4Abishai Destroyer+2HouseD Potion=58

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15
+4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
       
  Starting      Ending   
Skills       (Level 1)    (Level 20)      
Balance            1        11+1LOTD+2GL+4GH=18               
Concentration      8        38+1LOTD+2GL+4GH+15Item=60               
Diplomacy          1        18+1LOTD+2GL+4GH+10Item+3GS+1Brd=39             
Haggle             3        18+1LOTD+2GL+4GH+10Item+3GS+1Brd=39               
Intimidate         3        18+1LOTD+2GL+4GH+15Item+2Fv+3GS+1Brd=46               
Jump               1        14+1LOTD+2GL+4GH+30Item=51               
Move Silently      -1       11+1LOTD+2GL+4GH=18                               
Use Magic Device   3        18+1LOTD+2GL+4GH+5Item+3GS+1Brd=34               

Feats:
Extend
Maximize
Empower
Quicken
Heighten
Necromancy Focus
Greater Necromancy Focus
Enchantment Focus
Greater Enchantment Focus
Past Life – Wizard
Toughness
Past Life - Bard
Insightful Reflexes

Spell Difficulty Checks (DC):

Necromancy: 10Base+9Spell Level+2Item+2Feat+1Wizard Past Life+1Lich+21Int=46
Enchantment: 10Base+9Spell Level+2Item+2Feat+1Wizard Past Life+1Bard Past Life+21Int=46
Conjuration: 10Base+9Spell Level+2Item+1Wizard Past Life+3Epic+21=46
Transmutation: 10Base+9Spell Level+2Item+1Wizard Past Life+21Int=43

Using Abishai Cookies/Bard Song/HouseD Potion:

Necromancy: 46+2Abishai+1Bard+1HouseD Potion=50
Enchantment: 46+2Abishai+1Bard+1HouseD Potion=50
Conjuration: 46+2Abishai+1Bard+1HouseD Potion=50
Transmutation: 43+2Abishai+1Bard+1HouseD Potion=47

Spell Penetration:

20Base+6Wizard Past Lives+2Item+3Enhancement=31


Head: Greensteel Weave Helm of Ash (Blindness Immunity/+5 Fire Resistance/Major Void Lore)

Body: Epic Robes of the Diabolist (Blue: Heavy Fortification / Colorless:)

Cloak: Epic Envenomed Cloak (Green: Toughness)

Bracers: Epic Bracers of Demonic Consort (Yellow: Greater False Life / Colorless:+1 Exceptional Constitution)

Boots: Epic Boots of Corrosion (Green: +2 Good Luck / Colorless:)

Gloves: Greensteel Weave Gloves of Radiance (+10hp/+15hp/+20hp)

Trinket: Litany of the Dead

Goggles: Greensteel Weave Goggles of Concord & Opposition (Wizardry VI/+50Sp/+100sp)

Necklace: Torin’s Choker [Warchanter Set]

Belt: Eerie Belt [Pale Master Set]

Ring: Sanura’s Ring [Pale Master Set] (+2 Exceptional Intelligence)

Ring: Warchanters Band [Warchanter Set] (+2 Exceptional Constitution)

How Swap Items:
Torc of Prince Reiyum II+ Epic Kundarak Shield+ Epic Ring of the Mire = Shield Blocking SP Regen
Ring of the Djinn = Ev6 Bases
Epic Firestorm Greaves = Any heavy Fire dmg area
Epic Timeblade = FOM without losing boots slot
Skiver + Epic Ornamental Dagger = Nuking
Epic Staff of Inner Sight = Transmutation Spells ie Flesh to stone
Upgraded Pale Lavender Ion Stone – Abbot Infernos/Ev6 Breaths/Abishai Fireballs/Anything Situational
Epic Ring of Spell Storing = more sp to blow through
About the build:

     A while back I was TR’ing with my good buddy Nick.  He was on Biggsexy his Drow Palemaster and I was on Phalcon my Battle Cleric.  I got a few chances to test his toon out and see how it operated and I had so much fun and was so impressed that immediately after that TR I went crazy and TR’d my Sorcerer Jenix(Later moved to Khyber and renamed to Lacer) into a Drow Palemaster.  I ended up liking it so much that I TR’d 3 more times to get the Wiz Past lives in and eventually got almost all the gear I wanted for the build.  Basically we had a huge debate on what was better between a WF AM or a Drow PM, and we  ended up finding the Drow to be better then the WF AM counter-part (With a few TR’s so you could drop spell pen feats and take the enchantment focus’s).  I did some more number crunching and being pretty familiar with how casters work found that if you knocked out a Bard Life and went back to a Human Palemaster that would be the best possible Wizard option, you would then get another feat and able to take the bard past life feat for another bump to your DC which is what I am about to do.
     This build is heavily focused on maintaining the Highest DC’s and Spell Penetration possible.  It’s all about complete CC and self-sufficiency.  I enjoy soloing and running duo raids/quests as it’s the only time I feel challenged in this game.  This build has a lot of hit points, great saves and amazing self healing.  If death attacks work on the monster then it will be a 1 shot kill every time (with the exception the mob rolls a natural 20).  If the monster has deathward then it gets its soul trapped instead.  If that doesn’t work It WILL be held or danced or webbed.
     I put a lot of skill points into intimidate as it makes it easier to group mobs up.  It’s not high enough to Intimidate raid boss’s or anything but effective enough on trash mobs throughout the game, and the rest of the skill points I really didn’t care too much about.  I leave Quicken on 100% of the time and I don’t waste time using scrolls.  I personally think scroll healing is boring and takes too long and not as effective as just casting the spell you want with some exceptions.  This isn’t necessarily the right answer I’m aware, but that’s just my style of play.   
     Obviously the gear has a lot to do with making the build work great, but player skill helps the same if not more (ie. knowing when to throw what spells, How to avoid getting hit, kiting tactics, when to heal, how to nuke effectively etc).  I think one of the best things about this build is that it’s just all around a very solid toon.  It’s not squishy so you don’t have to worry about getting a 1 shot death, the Saves are high enough to be able to shrug off any traps or spells your hit by, and the self healing is good enough that you rarely have to use your negative energy burst for healing.  Those of you that have already played with me I’m sure can attest to this. 

In the end if your wanting to make a solid Caster and are willing to commit the time and effort required to grinding out TR’s and getting the right gear this is the way to go.  Here are the Pro’s and Con’s of the build:


Pros: Amazing hit points.  Solid amount of spell points.  Great Saves. Godly DC’s.  Fun as shit.

Cons: None Wink

60% of the time this build works every time. Wink
  

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Re: Lacer - The Revenant Build
Reply #1 - Mar 12th, 2011 at 3:11pm
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Looks like a really fun casting pale master....

I have a melee pale master build that I'm currently working on a few TR lives for.

I can't wait til it's closer to being done, want to share it.  They really are fun to play.
  
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Reply #2 - Mar 13th, 2011 at 7:46pm
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RG_Towrn wrote on Mar 12th, 2011 at 3:11pm:
Looks like a really fun casting pale master....

I have a melee pale master build that I'm currently working on a few TR lives for.

I can't wait til it's closer to being done, want to share it.  They really are fun to play.


12 wizard 8 favored soul! Max dips!
  
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Re: Lacer - The Revenant Build
Reply #3 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 1:27am
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Ya I had a Melee PM for a long time, and only recently changed as I'm going for completionist on the toon [Jenovaa Project] so Ill be knocking out my healer lives soon.
  

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Reply #4 - Mar 16th, 2011 at 3:07am
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Pale Master + Monk seemed like it could be entertaining.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 18th, 2011 at 3:07am
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Jenovaa_Project wrote on Mar 16th, 2011 at 1:27am:
Ya I had a Melee PM for a long time, and only recently changed as I'm going for completionist on the toon [Jenovaa Project] so Ill be knocking out my healer lives soon.


Are you planning on going back to 20 pure casting PM once you get completionist?


Glenalth wrote on Mar 16th, 2011 at 3:07am:
Pale Master + Monk seemed like it could be entertaining.


A guildie of mine is building one now after looking at my build and playing with a few others.  I think they can be viable, but I'm not yet convinced that DPS with the handwraps will be good enough with only 8 lvls of monk and (I'm not 100% sure) but I don't think you get a high enough BAB to get GTWF, which will lower the DPS even more.

I'm looking forward to my friend finishing it so I can see where I was wrong with my analysis, because I'm sure I missed something Cheesy
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 24th, 2011 at 9:12am
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This build is Boss.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 25th, 2011 at 9:00am
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Why not use two co op b-swords in each hand for mana regen.... and replace gs helm and gloves with abashi items.... also take warchanter set off and use epic dragons eye + eerie belt + archmagi belt + other and use necklace for hp  sup 7-8 clickies for potency ?
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Re: Lacer - The Revenant Build
Reply #8 - Mar 25th, 2011 at 9:27am
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Why not use two co op b-swords in each hand for mana regen.... and replace gs helm and gloves with abashi items.... also take warchanter set off and use epic dragons eye + eerie belt + archmagi belt + other and use necklace for hp  sup 7-8 clickies for potency ?



Because some people hate hot swapping items every minute.
  

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Reply #9 - Mar 30th, 2011 at 10:15am
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I actually like to use clickies and swap items.  The more buttons your pushing the better!  I'm gonna be making some minor gear changes soon but 1: full abi set would be a waste here IMO.  Why would I want the gloves and bracers on a Pure caster lol?  Its just not worth it to me anyway and 2: Bastard swords suck nuts.  I already have a concord op maul and I agree two weapons would be better but not resorting to bastard swords...
  

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Reply #10 - Mar 30th, 2011 at 10:19am
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Jenovaa_Project wrote on Mar 30th, 2011 at 10:15am:
I actually like to use clickies and swap items.  The more buttons your pushing the better! 


I like button pushing for SC2.  DDO just doesn't demand that kind of attention.  Except when I am trying to push my limitations - which really only happens when I am TRing... next TR is in 5 weeks, I can't wait!
  

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Reply #11 - Mar 30th, 2011 at 1:02pm
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I think you are right on the full abashi set.  But im def taking the warchanter set off its dumb
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Reply #12 - Mar 30th, 2011 at 2:02pm
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  But im def taking the warchanter set off its dumb


Warchanter Band/Necklace combo is definitely dumb for Bards but it's VERY nice for Favored Souls.
  

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Reply #13 - Mar 30th, 2011 at 4:11pm
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I agree.  I don't even use it anymore, but I'll have to see what Ill put in its place... the Torc is nice but its not a permanent item to me, more of a swap.  Maybe noxious embers ... hell idk ill think bout it later.
  

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Reply #14 - Mar 30th, 2011 at 4:13pm
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noxious embers is the best caster neck imo
  
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Reply #15 - Mar 31st, 2011 at 3:49am
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I have the noxious embers on my sorc - I have as of yet to find something to take its place.  Once you get it on it is hard to replace.
  

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Reply #16 - Apr 6th, 2011 at 10:27am
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I posted my main characters build Lacer.  Thought you might find it interesting...
  
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Reply #17 - Apr 11th, 2011 at 9:50am
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So I decided on going for a co op b sword with skiver/greenblade for tanking with pale master abilities.
2 co op weapons switching my torq out with my greensteel hp necklace for mana regen/ epics /normal raids.
Greensteel hp item necklace and a large guild augment slot ring of some kind replacing the warchanter set.
  
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Reply #18 - Apr 11th, 2011 at 11:39am
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Wasn't it discovered that concopp only stacks as 1 weapon and 1 accessory?
  
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Reply #19 - Apr 11th, 2011 at 11:41am
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Wasn't it discovered that concopp only stacks as 1 weapon and 1 accessory?


and I thought they "fixed" that as well?
  

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Reply #20 - Apr 11th, 2011 at 5:01pm
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2 weapons 1 acces.
  
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They will never fix it.  Would take to much effort for to little response from player base
  
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Reply #22 - Apr 11th, 2011 at 8:38pm
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2 weapons 1 acces.


I saw that video.   

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Reply #23 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 9:05am
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popejubal wrote on Apr 11th, 2011 at 8:38pm:
I saw that video.   

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Link or final verdict please?
  
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Reply #24 - Apr 12th, 2011 at 9:06am
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I saw the video then did my own testing.  The results are very conclusive.
  
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