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Cantcatchthe
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Best monk build on Khyber.
Apr 6
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Gear is more important then any other thing for a monk.
(Besides play skill and base stats.)
Helm = Epic frost helm
Docent= Dt docent not red scale you fucking noobs
10% 20% healing amp your pick of sov
Bracers = Jidz lvl 5 bracers.. Epic them if you want to waste time
Goggles Min 2 hp item Or Lit 2 hp item and slot heavy fort.
Ring1 = Shintao ring holyburst
Ring2 = Encrusted ring shocking burst
Necklace = Shintao Cord
Trinket = Epic gem of many facets
Cloak = Epic Envenomed Cloak
Belt = Knost belt
Gloves= Claw gloves / Epic spec for trap running
Boots = Epic corrosion / Madstone / Innocent / Anchoring
Stats
STR= 17 +5 lvl +6 item +1 ex + 3 profane + 4 sun stance + 4 tome=40 unbuffed +2 rage spell +2 madstone rage + 2 yugo pot+2 ship buffs =
48
Dex 14 + 4 tome+6 item+2 ships =
26
Con 18 +2 wf+7 envenomed+1ex+4 tome= 32 standing +4 madstone + 2 ship =
36
max dps mode (can get up over 40 with yugo pot etc. who cares you got 800 hp already)
Int 9 base + 3 tome =
11
(silver flame pots you freaking noobs that can't self heal)
wisdom 12+4 tome +1 monk +1 ex+6 item=
24
Cha 6 base + 7 item+3 tome =
16
(silver flame pots and shintao 3 stun)...
Feats
= Twf Itwf Gtwf Power attack Luck of Heroes Monk past life stunning fist Rest of feats take as toughness
Hp= 681 unbuffed
821
sustainable buffed (This is max dps you can get close to 900 or so by screwing your dps)
breakdown
36 con = 13x20= 260
45 gs+30 GFL+10GHfv= 95
Heroic durability 20+ Barbarian pastlives 30+ Tougness 20= 70
Toughness=66
10 Turtle 20 toughness enhancments
Hit die= 160
Buffs 40 Madstone+ 40 Yugo+ 20 Rage+ 40 earthstance= 140
Healing amp 70% base +15% pally pastlives=85% base + 10% dt +20% dt + 30% gloves + monk 30% + 10% ship+ 25% bracers
261% = 651 Hp off every silver flame pot.
Self healing of this build is 651/3seconds.
Eat that tukaw and your crappy 285/2 seconds
Incite for tanking even if you got a blitz build in the group... 100%+10% wf hate + 20% incite +20% claw+ 15% shintao=
180% hate
Playstyle of this build is zergy do shit you shouldn't and survive. Insane survivability with great dps. (It's no Horc blitz with dual epic Chaosblades but It beats a epic sos)
Dps Spam void 4/3 and Earth strike 4/3
Epics spam void 4/stunning fist/shintao eye beams/jade strike
Tank like a Boss with silver flame pots or get someone to recon you. (human version of this build is dumb because 500% amp is overkill.)
--EDIT-- Dropped 20 hp for 1 more skill point and to prevent you having to LR for GTWF. --EDIT--
----EDIT----
I'm add this lil blurb here. I made Cantcatchthe first as a new player when monks first came out. Then as I played I learned from watching players like arkat (One of less than handful of decent players playing wf monks) and several human monks.... When Tr'ing came out I decided to do 3monk lives which I did in stunning speed with vigilante and charm. At the end of this I realized monks were far behind other melee classes so I decided to do 3 monk 3 fighter 3 barb 3 pally to test the melee builds against each other and allow for turbine to settle down on the nerf bat while I was tring so my final build would last longer. Thus at the end of my trs I decided they had given monk enough love that I was viable even vs a blitz build in usefulness. So I decided to go back to being a monk which is why I have 5 monk lives 3 barb 3 pally and 3 fighter.
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Re: Best monk build on Khyber.
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Apr 6
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Gear is more important then any other thing for a monk.
(Besides play skill and base stats.)
Helm = Epic frost helm
Docent= Dt docent not red scale you fucking noobs
10% 20% healing amp your pick of sov
Bracers = Jidz lvl 5 bracers.. Epic them if you want to waste time
Goggles Min 2 hp item
Ring1 = Shintao ring holyburst
Ring2 = Encrusted ring shocking burst
Necklace = Shintao Cord
Trinket = Epic gem of many facets
Cloak = Epic Envenomed Cloak
Belt = Knost belt
Gloves= Claw gloves / Epic spec for trap running
Boots = Epic corrosion / Madstone / Innocent / Anchoring
Stats
STR= 17 +5 lvl +6 item +1 ex + 3 profane + 4 sun stance + 4 tome=40 unbuffed +2 rage spell +2 madstone rage + 2 yugo pot+2 ship buffs =
48
Dex 13 + 4 tome =
17
unbuffed +2 ship buffs +7 hot swapped epic specs 26
Con 20 +2 wf+7 envenomed+1ex+4 tome= 34 standing +4 madstone + 2 ship =
38
max dps mode (can get up over 40 with yugo pot etc. who cares you got 800 hp already)
Int 8 base + 3 tome =
11
(silver flame pots you freaking noobs that can't self heal)
wisdom 12+4 tome +1 monk +1 ex=
18
normally (easily higher with hot swapped gear if need will save.)
Cha 6 base + 7 item+3 tome =
16
(silver flame pots and shintao 3 stun)...
Feats = Twf Itwf Gtwf Power attack Luck of Heroes Monk past life stunning fist Rest of feats take as toughness
Hp= 701 unbuffed
841
sustainable buffed (This is max dps you can get close to 900 or so by screwing your dps)
breakdown
38 con = 13x20= 280
45 gs+30 GFL+10GHfv= 95
Heroic durability 20+ Barbarian pastlives 30+ Tougness 20= 70
Toughness=66
10 Turtle 20 toughness enhancments
Hit die= 160
Buffs 40 Madstone+ 40 Yugo+ 20 Rage+ 40 earthstance= 140
Doesn't madstone make it impossible to perform monk finishing moves ?
Healing amp 70% base +15% pally pastlives=85% base + 10% dt +20% dt + 30% gloves + monk 30% + 10% ship+ 25% bracers
261% = 651 Hp off every silver flame pot.
Might be important to consider the -10 to all stats, which is quite significant
Self healing of this build is 651/3seconds.
Eat that tukaw and your crappy 285/2 seconds
Incite for tanking even if you got a blitz build in the group... 100%+10% wf hate + 20% incite +20% claw+ 15% shintao=
180% hate
I used to run a lot with Groan in Argo, I doubt this monk would take aggro off him once he establishes sustained dps
Playstyle of this build is zergy do shit you shouldn't and survive. Insane survivability with great dps. (It's no Horc blitz with dual epic Chaosblades but It beats a epic sos)
I would love to see some factual information for this statement.
Dps Spam void 4/3 and Earth strike 4/3
Epics spam void 4/stunning fist/shintao eye beams/jade strike
Tank like a Boss with silver flame pots or get someone to recon you. (human version of this build is dumb because 500% amp is overkill.)
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Re: Best monk build on Khyber.
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Doesn't madstone make it impossible to perform monk finishing moves ?
It doesn't mess with earth-earth-earth, fire-fire-fire finisher. It does break the healing one. I don't know if it jacks Touch of Death up.
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Touch of Death isn't a finisher, so it works fine. I think madstone mostly messes with light monk finishing moves, not dark monks.
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How exactly are you getting gtwf with a base 13 dex and no level points?
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How exactly are you getting gtwf with a base 13 dex and no level points?
+4 tome
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+4 tome
Aren't they ml 15? That means at best he could get TWF, not gtwf, nor even itwf.
Edit: if he used a +2 he could get TWF, and then a +4 at level 15 he could get itwf at 18, but still not gtwf.
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Aren't they ml 15? That means at best he could get TWF, not gtwf, nor even itwf.
Edit: if he used a +2 he could get TWF, and then a +4 at level 15 he could get itwf at 18, but still not gtwf.
I have no idea. My interest is limited.
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1. What finishers would I use that are half a shit useful?
2. Yeah you lose 5 to hit and 5 damage it is a big deal but losing about 5% dps isn't that big of a deal. It's like using a yugo pot.
3. Didn't say pull agro off a sustained tanking blitz build did I? I said hold agro off them. Also groan is a blitz. With 10-30 seconds beat time this build would hold agro.
4. Give me a good screen recording software. I'm not spending money on it or time to pirate it.
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4. Give me a good screen recording software. I'm not spending money on it or time to pirate it.
so you want something that's good AND free?
hmmmm
flaw in the cunning plan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veoafAdcDq8
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+2 tome @ 7 twf @9 itwf 15 GTWF18 ?
Cant just ate a plus 4 @ 15 and lr'd on his final life
then traded out my feats at 15-18 using the free feat exchange + ddo store dragonshard
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+2 tome @ 7 twf @9 itwf 15 GTWF18 ?
Cant just ate a plus 4 @ 15 and lr'd on his final life
then traded out my feats at 15-18 using the free feat exchange + ddo store dragonshard
Iirc itwf requires dex 17 so the only way that would work is if the lr let you re-select your feat for level 15, which if it does that's retarded.
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Iirc itwf requires dex 17 so the only way that would work is if the lr let you re-select your feat for level 15, which if it does that's retarded.
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We have a winner!
He ate the +4 tome, then did an LR and redid all of his feats. That's my guess.
So "the best monk build on Khyber" requires an LR in late life.
I'd hardly call that the best....
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Incite for tanking even if you got a blitz build in the group... 100%+10% wf hate + 20% incite +20% claw+ 15% shintao=
180% hate
20% Incite Rune and Claw Set don't stack.
what 15% "Shintao" are you referring to?
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Profane bonuses and enhancement bonuses don't stack whut?
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Profane bonuses and enhancement bonuses don't stack whut?
what profane bonus are you talking about?
Show me links, I'm being slow today...too much college.
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Stick to your Barb, its actually worth a shit.
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2. Yeah you lose 5 to hit and 5 damage it is a big deal but losing
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5% dps isn't that big of a deal. It's like using a yugo pot.
3. Didn't say pull agro off a sustained tanking blitz build did I? I said hold agro off them. Also groan is a blitz. With 10-30 seconds beat time this build would hold agro.
4. Give me a good screen recording software. I'm not spending money on it or time to pirate it.
lol @ 4. Im not doing your homework, uber monk guy.
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Cale wrote
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So "the best monk build on Khyber" requires an LR in late life.
I'd hardly call that the best....
And multiple toughness feats
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And multiple toughness feats
You forgot luck of heroes. Why would you grab that on a monk? Anyone?
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Epoch wrote
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You forgot luck of heroes. Why would you grab that on a monk? Anyone?
That one at least serves as a pre-req, iirc.
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That one at least serves as a pre-req, iirc.
I would take discipline or cleave (mostly this) over Luck of Heroes. +1 to saves that you dont need, or more damage? I guess if he fights one mob at a time cleave is useless... then again, so is drinking heal pots because you cant pull off 3 stuns since you gimped your DC's.
~Drop a toughness for stunning blow, far more useful then 20 fricking useless hp.
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I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog. #epochsfamiliarFTW
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It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity.
Even against donuts.
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Epoch wrote
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I would take discipline or cleave
(mostly this) over Luck of Heroes. +1 to saves that you dont need, or more damage? I guess if he fights one mob at a time cleave is useless... then again, so is drinking heal pots because you cant pull off 3 stuns since
you gimped your DC's.
~Drop a toughness for stunning blow, far more useful then 20 fricking useless hp.
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1. Neither discipline or cleave increase your damage output even against multiple mobs. Although I see why you would think that.
2. Dc 40-50 stunns is totally gimp I think mobs only have to roll a 20 to save.
3. Once again something you would think would be smart; but in actual practice you are already cycling 4 moves
FAR SUPERIOR
to a stunning blow with cool downs allowing you no break in the chain. Also its 22 hp.
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And multiple toughness feats
Name two feats more useful then 44 hp. (Honestly I could take the pally past life feat for the divine favor but I find clicking titan's gloves and Madstone boots before switching to Ecorrosion boots enough.)
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1. Neither discipline or cleave increase your damage output even against multiple mobs. People like you make me laugh making comments that seem correct till you actually play a monk.
2. Dc 50 stunning blow is totally gimp I think mobs only have to roll a 20 to save.
3. Once again something you would think would be smart; you would realize if you actually played a monk as long as I have that you are already cycling 4 moves
FAR SUPERIOR
to a stunning blow with cool downs allowing you no break in the chain. Also its 22 hp.
Thanks, been playing them since they were released. You can cycle more then 4 moves at a time. I know what you are thinking, "it isnt possible". I assure you joe slappy, it is. Also, if you are fighting a group of mobs - you should lead in with "shintao laser eye beams" or however you referred to it, not mix it up in an attack chain.
22 hp, whoopdeedoo. Still useless.
OnePercenter wrote
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I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog. #epochsfamiliarFTW
Sim-Sala-Bim wrote
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It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity.
Even against donuts.
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