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Cantcatchthe Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #25 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 10:38am	Print Post
	Malothar wrote on Apr 6^th, 2011 at 9:41pm: Stick to your Barb, its actually worth a shit. Axer says barbarians are the best dps. My barbarian lives left me wanting.... Dps wise even with sos and esos. (Please no one make the twf comment. If you wanna twf make a blitz build it is far superior.)


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Cantcatchthe Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #26 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 10:48am	Print Post
	Epoch wrote on Apr 7^th, 2011 at 10:37am: Thanks, been playing them since they were released.� You can cycle more then 4 moves at a time.� I know what you are thinking, "it isnt possible".� I assure you joe slappy, it is.� Also, if you are fighting a group of mobs - you should lead in with "shintao laser eye beams" or however you referred to it, not mix it up in an attack chain. 22 hp, whoopdeedoo.� Still useless.� 1. You can cycle 5 basic strikes yes.� But with the 4 moves cycled in epics they come off of timers at 4 moves. Over time this is superior to cycle the 4 over any 5.� 2. I assure you If you could read my mind you would stop arguing due to the knowledge imparted onto your being with the realization you are indubitably under experienced for this conversation on the monk class. 3. I can assure you cycling the eye beams with their massive WILL save DC is going to speed up your epics even in a fight not just leading into it.� Of course it is a ranged attack and can be used to lead into a fight also. 4. Are you that bored at work? Maybe you should go to Meridia and shout in advice not to build tier 3 of your greensteel hp item because it is "Worthless" It might pass time for you.
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Asketes Puppy Farmer Offline Perma Posts: 1371 Location: California Joined: Aug 16^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #27 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 11:07am	Print Post
	Quote: Axer says barbarians are the best dps. My barbarian lives left me wanting.... Dps wise even with sos and esos.� (Please no one make the twf comment.� If you wanna twf make a blitz build it is far superior.) I lol'd at this whole paragraph


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Wizzly Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #28 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 11:54am	Print Post
	Quote: Name two feats more useful then 44 hp. (Honestly I could take the pally past life feat for the divine favor but I find clicking titan's gloves and Madstone boots before switching to Ecorrosion boots enough.) Cleave, great cleave, paladin past life, stunning fist/blow, hell even soul/sorc/wiz past lives, sf:umd, and many others. If 22 hps are so important, why not swap out the TWF line and get 66 more?


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Asketes Puppy Farmer Offline Perma Posts: 1371 Location: California Joined: Aug 16^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #29 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 12:47pm	Print Post
	Quote: Cleave, great cleave I stopped reading there, sorry bud.


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Wizzly Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #30 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 1:35pm	Print Post
	Asketes wrote on Apr 7^th, 2011 at 12:47pm: I stopped reading there, sorry bud. Are those not better than 20 more hps?


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Asketes Puppy Farmer Offline Perma Posts: 1371 Location: California Joined: Aug 16^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #31 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 1:43pm	Print Post
	Quote: Are those not better than 20 more hps? unfortunately the cleave series lowers your dps, barbs have cleave only because the prestige line requires it. (your other recommendations were much better than cleave/great cleave and depending on build/playstyle may be better than extra toughness feats)


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Wizzly Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #32 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 2:16pm	Print Post
	Hmm...never much enjoyed melee so I'm behind the curve there. I thought the cleaves were supposed to increase DPS against large groups
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Cantcatchthe Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #33 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 3:42pm	Print Post
	Quote: Cleave, great cleave, paladin past life, stunning fist/blow, hell even soul/sorc/wiz past lives, sf:umd, and many others. If 22 hps are so important, why not swap out the TWF line and get 66 more? Now you are just making yourself look stupid.


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Cantcatchthe Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #34 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 3:44pm	Print Post
	Quote: Hmm...never much enjoyed melee so I'm behind the curve there. I thought the cleaves were supposed to increase DPS against large groups I lawld. Again making yourself look foolish.
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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #35 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 4:08pm	Print Post
	Quote: I lawld. Again making yourself look foolish. Instead of insults, you could offer an explanation you know.

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stainer Arkat's Bitch Offline Gawna's big sexy crony! Posts: 12345 Location: gawna's nuts Joined: Jan 28^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #36 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 4:48pm	Print Post
	Quote: Hmm...never much enjoyed melee so I'm behind the curve there. I thought the cleaves were supposed to increase DPS against large groups In theory yes. In practice not so much. I think the attack animation cuts into the dps. TWF suffers from cleave also, in my understanding.

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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #37 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 4:51pm	Print Post
	Quote: Hmm...never much enjoyed melee so I'm behind the curve there. I thought the cleaves were supposed to increase DPS against large groups The attack animation is kind of fubar'd, so you actually end up losing DPS unless you're TWF and surrounded by a tight packed swarm of minaturized Kobolds. Just glancing blows alone will make your regular swings good enough (edit: with THF, obviously) at dealing with swarms that Cleave isn't needed and Cleave really sucks at actually killing things, so any potential extra DPS even against tightly packed swarms will end up being fairly pointless. It's really disappointing that the Cleave line isn't actually useful in any situation that will really happen in DDO.
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Cantcatchthe Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #38 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 5:28pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Apr 7^th, 2011 at 4:08pm: Instead of insults, you could offer an explanation you know. I was annoyed with his obviously ignorance trying to poke holes in my build. It was off color and I shouldn't have made insults.


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Asketes Puppy Farmer Offline Perma Posts: 1371 Location: California Joined: Aug 16^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #39 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 5:31pm	Print Post
	Quote: I was annoyed with his obviously ignorance trying to poke holes in my build.� It was off color and I shouldn't have made insults. now you're apologizing? GTFO so are you just here to make statements and throw sticks at people asking questions are you going to drop your balls and converse like a real man?


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Cantcatchthe Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #40 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 6:15pm	Print Post
	Asketes wrote on Apr 7^th, 2011 at 5:31pm: now you're apologizing? GTFO so are you just here to make statements and throw sticks at people asking questions are you going to drop your balls and converse like a real man? I wasn't apologizing just saying normally I wouldn't throw sticks.


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Wizzly Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #41 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 6:22pm	Print Post
	Quote: I lawld. Again making yourself look foolish. Since when is it foolish to acknowledge your mistakes? Go fuck yourself with your wasted +4 tome.


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Wizzly Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #42 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 6:26pm	Print Post
	Quote: I was annoyed with his obviously ignorance trying to poke holes in my build.� It was off color and I shouldn't have made insults. "his obviously ignorance" WTF is that? Learn some fucking English. If you're going to make fun of someone not knowing something then expect the same in return.


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Cantcatchthe Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #43 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 6:30pm	Print Post
	Quote: "his obviously ignorance" WTF is that? Learn some fucking English. If you're going to make fun of someone not knowing something then expect the same in return. I meant he's obviously ignorant or his obvious ignorance but I combined them happens when you are not really paying attention. Congrats on finding a mistake. A single one.
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Cantcatchthe Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #44 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 6:31pm	Print Post
	Quote: Since when is it foolish to acknowledge your mistakes? Go fuck yourself with your wasted +4 tome. What mistakes? Please stopping making yourself look like a fool on my build thread.� If you don't have anything to contribute please don't post. (Humor is welcomed etc. Trolling is not.) Ex.� You made a comment about how anything under the sun would be better then another toughness which is foolish (Because there is nothing better) and degrading (The way you said it showed your obvious thoughts it is stupid to take more then one toughness even though it is the most effective route.) to my build. Then you blame it on ignorance of melee classes.� If you are ignorant ask for knowledge and it will be given.� There is no reason we cannot be civil.
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Asketes Puppy Farmer Offline Perma Posts: 1371 Location: California Joined: Aug 16^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #45 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 6:44pm	Print Post
	Quote: There is no reason we cannot be civil. um, this is the vault. I'm fairly certain it's against one of the rules to be civil


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popejubal Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline fnord Posts: 6364 Location: Argo Joined: Aug 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #46 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 6:44pm	Print Post
	Quote: What mistakes? Please stopping making yourself look like a fool on my build thread.� If you don't have anything to contribute please don't post. (Humor is welcomed etc.� Trolling is not.) Ex.� You made a comment about how anything under the sun would be better then another toughness which is foolish (Because there is nothing better) and degrading (The way you said it showed your obvious thoughts it is stupid to take more then one toughness even though it is the most effective route.) to my build. Then you blame it on ignorance of melee classes.� If you are ignorant ask for knowledge and it will be given.� There is no reason we cannot be civil. In that case, have I got a build for you! Monk 20: Race: Warforged S: whatever D: whatever C: 20 I: whatever W: whatever Ch: whatever Feats: 1: Toughness 1M: Toughness 2M: Tougnness 3: Toughness 6: Toughness 6M: Toughness 9: Toughness 12: Tougness 15: Toughness 18: Toughness As an alternative build, you might consider taking levels 7-20 as Fighter or Paladin so that you can get more HP. Also, Human is a viable alternative to Warforged in order to take the free Human granted feat Toughness. Half Elf with the Barbarian Dilettante may also work for you if you can deal with being a Half Elf.

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Cantcatchthe Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #47 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 7:22pm	Print Post
	popejubal wrote on Apr 7^th, 2011 at 6:44pm: In that case, have I got a build for you! Monk 20: Race: Warforged S: whatever D: whatever C: 20 I: whatever W: whatever Ch: whatever Feats: 1: Toughness 1M: Toughness 2M: Tougnness 3: Toughness 6: Toughness 6M: Toughness 9: Toughness 12: Tougness 15: Toughness 18: Toughness As an alternative build, you might consider taking levels 7-20 as Fighter or Paladin so that you can get more HP.� Also, Human is a viable alternative to Warforged in order to take the free Human granted feat Toughness.� Half Elf with the Barbarian Dilettante may also work for you if you can deal with being a Half Elf. Troll.� Nothing better that you do not already have.. obviously.
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Cale Abbot Raider Offline Meh.... Drama Posts: 954 Joined: May 9^th, 2010	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #48 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 7:25pm	Print Post
	Quote: Troll.� Nothing better that you do not already have.. obviously. Go ahead. Tell us how you owned us and how we worship you and all of my suspicions will be proven correct, Astra-alt.


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Cantcatchthe Ex Member	Re: Best monk build on Khyber. Reply #49 - Apr 7^th, 2011 at 8:29pm	Print Post
	I'm just sharing my build and responding to questions / comments. Nothing more nothing less.
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