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That build is like the worst build I have ever seen.....

Can I get a link to the post that has the list of feats?  I keep getting distracted by both herp and derp while reading this thread and can't find it myself.

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I was acknowledging MY mistakes fucktard.

Nothing better than toughness? Then why did you take TWF?

Fucktard.

Arkat wrote on Apr 7^th, 2011 at 11:51pm:

Are you sure?  Let's recap, shall we?

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Astra-Can just has slightly more tact.
Slightly.
The only thing missing is a comment about how we have been owned.

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And some transgender confusion.

So can't/Astra...why only Khyber? You are obviously douch...I mean uber enough to claim to be the best monk in DDO. Maybe even the best monk in all of human history 

PS here's a tip for ya - if you don't want your builds trolled, lose some of the arrogance. Even if they are perfect (which this one is NOT), you're still just asking to be bent over the build. K, thanks.

Infidel wrote on Apr 7^th, 2011 at 9:30pm:

Could you give reasons for this please?

Epoch wrote on Apr 8^th, 2011 at 4:13am:

I actually like joining pug groups and helping them. (Bad dps sometimes no caster just a bard.)  Sure if I'm running with guild the mobs do not last more then a split second.
Also yes you can do 5 basic strikes but stunning fist and eye beams take longer to execute then a basic strike.
Also claw epic. Just saying
The toughness opinion is yours I feel sad you think thus. Please go to meridia and tell people not to make a greensteel hp item as 45 hp is worthless.

Arkat wrote on Apr 7^th, 2011 at 11:51pm:


I'd actually like to hear your opinion on the build seeing as how you have been running a wf monk for slightly longer then I have.

Epoch wrote on Apr 8^th, 2011 at 9:52am:

You use the excess feats in this build to end up with 3 toughness feats and thus if you say taking multiples is gimp you would only take one dropping 44 hp.(Greensteel is 45 it's a diffrence of one hp so if 44 hp is worthless so is a greensteel you have to make must be extremely.)  Yeas I do feel uber in claw when I make it go twice as fast.  Lol @ the last part.
On a side note could you mention any feat other then the pally past life worth half a shit that I have not taken?  (Because I stated earlier I do not like timing the divine favor clicky with all the other ones I already use.)

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Thank you.

Twf/Itwf/Gtwf
Power attack
Luck of Heroes
Monk past life
stunning fist
Rest of feats take as toughness

-TWF/ITWF/GTWF are obvious.
-The first Toughness is a great choice.  More Toughnesses are certainly good, but other feats will often be better.
-Power Attack is outstanding.
-Monk Past Life is nice while leveling, but what will it stack with?  I honestly don't know the answer to that question.  If you end up with gear that increases your unarmed damage dice, what will you end up dealing at level 20?
-Luck of Heroes is probably the best of the Shintao required feats for the way that I like to play, but Combat Expertise can be nice for the right people.

Improved Crit: Bludgeoning looks like it's missing from your list.
Paladin Past Life is outstanding.  +3 to hit and +3 base damage?  YES PLEASE!

If this is the "best" Monk build on the entire server with a +4 tome, 3 Paladin past lives, etc., then I'd think you would want to save a feat slot for completionist.

I don't know how things will turn out with increased saves on Epic critters in U9, but I've seen a few people take Stunning Blow in addition to Stunning Fists and have good results with it.

My list of feats for the Bestest Monk EVAR

TWF/ITWF/GTWF
Combat Expertise for Shintao
Power Attack
Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
Stunning Fist
Monk Past Life
Paladin Past Life
Completionist

What?  No Toughness?!?  That's right, you're so uber that you don't need HP.  You're the best Monk on the server and all the mobs in every dungeon know it.  They all just run away from you or cower in terror instead of attacking, so you won't take damage anyway.

Cale wrote on Apr 8^th, 2011 at 1:18pm:


Good point.  Even counting on a +4 Tome, it's a pain in the ass to add. 

You only have 1 slot that doesn't have a BaB req after level 6, which is before a +2 tome, and you won't even have that empty slot until level 18.  So unless you want to hold off on taking a PrE until level 18, CE is a poor choice in this set-up.

And if Cleave's animation is improved to the point where using it can actually be more effective than not using it, that will be a big win for a lot of builds.

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So the best monk on the server isn't the best because you dont want to hit another hotkey? Really? WoW.

How long does it take you to complete claw? Well, you did say you pug it.  While turning it from an hour long painful experience to a 30 min is notable, it is sad that just you alone make that difference.  So I guess what you are saying is, you like carrying people through quests.  Noted.

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Quick jab to make - stunning fist and stunning blow are two different attacks.  I promise you that you do not have a 50 dc with an 18 wisdom.  Get your facts straight, then argue your build.  No real monk gets the two confused. 

WF Monk if I recall correctly.
(feats not in order- its just listed for my typing convenience)

1-power attack
1m-luck of heroes (snicker)
2m-toughness
3-twf
3m-shintao bitch! cuz thats the way to be! aka - fist of light
6-stunning blow (cuz that is the one he wants since he has jack shit for wisdom)
6m-stunning fist- why you ask? Because everyone loves more stuns.  That is right, invest into your wisdom.  WF monks can get a high enough dc, and easily.   Also, it is needed for shintao.
9-itwf
12-IC-bludgeon.
15-gtwf
18-monk past life


Put some points in wisdom.

popejubal wrote on Apr 8^th, 2011 at 11:18am:


Completionist is a waste of time. (Do it if you want I'm happy with cants 3barb 3fighter 3pally 5monk lives<(Did 5 monk lives to extensively test them and different options in game not just on paper...))
Also I said I do not like pally past life several times if you want to take it go ahead.
Ac monks are terrible they are broken and if you build a ac monk you will end up being able to solo a lot less then my build.
Improved critical bludgeon does not increase your dps enough for me to justify taking the feat personally. The dps gain is around 3%....  .03% in epics and 1.23% in Raids