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Throate Waterworks Kobold Offline ...to hear the lamentation of them noobs Posts: 154 Location: Austria Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2010 Gender:	Epic Scroll trading Oct 20^th, 2011 at 2:23am	Print Post
	Look what sirgog found: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=346994


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JDollar Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Swarthy as fuck Posts: 5380 Location: Uttering "death threats"! Joined: Jun 24^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #1 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 3:03am	Print Post
	Wow all those shit scrolls from farming runs may just pay off!

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Glenalth Puppy Farmer Offline Not banned, just bored Posts: 1602 Location: Albuquerque Joined: Sep 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #2 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 3:18am	Print Post
	My scroll bag was almost overflowing anyway. I am kind of disappointed that they took the easy way out here. At least it doesn't punish the people that already went out and farmed the scrolls they needed. Those of us sitting on valuable scrolls for trade purposes get screwed though.


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Flav Vault Frog Offline One Frog to Rule them All! Posts: 10011 Location: Land of the Frogs Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #3 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 5:09am	Print Post
	You mean the Jidz-Tet'ka scroll I looted Sunday ( and been sitting on since then ) just want to worth millions to the value of an almost useless piece of paper ?

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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #4 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 5:27am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 5:09am: You mean the Jidz-Tet'ka scroll I looted Sunday ( and been sitting on since then ) just want to worth millions to the value of an almost useless piece of paper ? Trade now, don't wait. Some people do not read the forums. I have been selling rare scrolls like hot candy since then. Ignorance is bliss, but everyone will probably know in a few days.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Calvet Puppy Farmer Offline I take stroke pills! Posts: 1497 Location: United Kingdom Joined: Dec 6^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #5 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 6:34am	Print Post
	Flav wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 5:09am: You mean the Jidz-Tet'ka scroll I looted Sunday ( and been sitting on since then ) just want to worth millions to the value of an almost useless piece of paper ? Early information suggests it will only apply to desert epic scrolls in U12. Not to say that it won't be expanded to all Epic content down the line, but for the time being, your claw scrolls, SoS scrolls etc seem to still be valuable.

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Auran Stormreaver Piker Offline www.drama.yourserver .ok? Posts: 668 Joined: Jan 26^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #6 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 10:57am	Print Post
	Well, desert is the main offender, most of the other areas have such a small number of different scrolls, you have a relatively decent chance of getting what you want.

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Soul Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1121 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #7 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 1:03pm	Print Post
	wow. Welp. I quit.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #8 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 1:06pm	Print Post
	Soul wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 1:03pm: wow. Welp. I quit. Bye.


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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #9 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 1:11pm	Print Post
	Soul wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 1:03pm: wow. Welp. I quit. How tragic.


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Terebinthia Horoluth Raider Offline All your cupcakes are belong to me! :D Posts: 2499 Joined: Jan 6^th, 2011	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #10 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 6:37pm	Print Post
	I, on the other hand went woot! and bought 9 really shitty scrolls to turn into the few desert epics I would like (mainly the sirocco for my Soul but maybe the marichain for my completionists final life. And one extra annoying scroll for luck. It gives me a reason to run desert epics again, since I despise scroll farming and won't do it. Nice one Turbine.


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #11 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 6:42pm	Print Post
	I'm also fired up about this.


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Nerdychaz Waterworks Kobold Offline I was queer before the ponies! Posts: 188 Location: Cannith Joined: Oct 3^rd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #12 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 8:03pm	Print Post
	En route to the AH to stock up on junk scrolls!


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Blank_Zero Ex Member	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #13 - Oct 20^th, 2011 at 8:52pm	Print Post
	Desert has like 64 items yes? If they just did that, I'd be ok with this. If they did all the rest, I'd be happiness...I want my Claw set dammit.


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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #14 - Oct 21^st, 2011 at 3:17am	Print Post
	Quote: Desert has like 64 items yes? If they just did that, I'd be ok with this. If they did all the rest, I'd be happiness...I want my Claw set dammit. I will sell you a scroll if you come to argo... I will sell you three if you want.

	OnePercenter wrote on May 15^th, 2014 at 9:41am: I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.� #epochsfamiliarFTW Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27^th, 2014 at 2:09am: It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity. Even against donuts.
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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #15 - Oct 21^st, 2011 at 8:57am	Print Post
	rest wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 6:42pm: I'm also fired up about this. Why? I'm trying to understand this mindset.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #16 - Oct 21^st, 2011 at 9:22am	Print Post
	Quote: Desert has like 64 items yes? If they just did that, I'd be ok with this. If they did all the rest, I'd be happiness...I want my Claw set dammit. Is the scroll really the hold up in getting the claw set? Isn't getting the shard and seal the bigger PITA? Anyone with a few FRDS can get the scroll. They are traded regularly. I think Turbine missed the boat here. The problem with Epic is still that you can run the quest 1000 times and still not get the shard/seal you need to drop. And be no closer to getting it than you were on run 1. Better they offer a barter system for seals and shards than scrolls. By making the scrolls unbound you already had a way to get them outside of the quest. Can't do that with shards/seals. Let us trade 10 seals from an adventure pack for any 1 seal we want from that pack. Or 20. Or 30. I don't care how hard it is to do, but if I run a quest 100 times that should be enough to get the item I'm looking for. Infinite grind is stupid grind. This did nothing to fix that.


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Darkrok Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1066 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #17 - Oct 21^st, 2011 at 10:00am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 9:22am: Is the scroll really the hold up in getting the claw set?� Isn't getting the shard and seal the bigger PITA?� Anyone with a few FRDS can get the scroll.� They are traded regularly. I think Turbine missed the boat here.� The problem with Epic is still that you can run the quest 1000 times and still not get the shard/seal you need to drop.� And be no closer to getting it than you were on run 1.� Better they offer a barter system for seals and shards than scrolls.� By making the scrolls unbound you already had a way to get them outside of the quest.� Can't do that with shards/seals.� Let us trade 10 seals from an adventure pack for any 1 seal we want from that pack.� Or 20.� Or 30.� I don't care how hard it is to do, but if I run a quest 100 times that should be enough to get the item I'm looking for.� Infinite grind is stupid grind.� �This did nothing to fix that. I think that's the point. If they put in Shard/Seal trading then Shade would have a massive stroke from the idea of 'epics for everyone'. Now while we'd all like to see that the dev's are afraid that Shade will get an army of halfling tossers together and break their next raid the moment they release it to Lamaland. So in an effort to appease Shade they'll make sure that epics remain an infinite grind and only give the appearance that things have changed.

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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #18 - Oct 21^st, 2011 at 11:00am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 8:57am: Why?� �I'm trying to understand this mindset. Because I have enough junk desert scrolls to never have to farm for good desert scrolls ever again. There are only so many stink pelt hides I really need (the answer is 0).


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #19 - Oct 21^st, 2011 at 12:08pm	Print Post
	rest wrote on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 11:00am: Because I have enough junk desert scrolls to never have to farm for good desert scrolls ever again. There are only so many stink pelt hides I really need (the answer is 0). aHH, misunderstood. I agree this is a great thing.


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Oakianus Troleplayer Offline I Really Do Love Drama! Posts: 5466 Joined: May 20^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #20 - Oct 21^st, 2011 at 1:47pm	Print Post
	Darkrok wrote on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 10:00am: I think that's the point.� If they put in Shard/Seal trading then Shade would have a massive stroke from the idea of 'epics for everyone'.� Now while we'd all like to see that the dev's are afraid that Shade will get an army of halfling tossers together and break their next raid the moment they release it to Lamaland.� So in an effort to appease Shade they'll make sure that epics remain an infinite grind and only give the appearance that things have changed. I think it definitely changes something, and that something is scroll farming. I have no problem with this idea in theory or practice, and the main reason is that it's been used for so long to absolutely gouge the shit out of players. This is taking the most easily accessible part of the epic item and making it accessible without having to have 30+ reds, which is the main way for any non-farmer to get themselves a Mari Chain scroll. Plus, imagine all of the instances having to be spawned for one dude to run around, aggro all the things and drop them into the scorp pit. Maybe it'll give us a fractional lag drop. Not that we'd be able to notice during Mabar, of course....


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Belwaar Shroud Slacker Offline Posts: 1017 Location: With Hordo's Mom Joined: Jun 30^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #21 - Oct 21^st, 2011 at 2:44pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 9:22am: Is the scroll really the hold up in getting the claw set?� Isn't getting the shard and seal the bigger PITA?� Anyone with a few FRDS can get the scroll.� They are traded regularly. I think Turbine missed the boat here.� The problem with Epic is still that you can run the quest 1000 times and still not get the shard/seal you need to drop.� And be no closer to getting it than you were on run 1.� Better they offer a barter system for seals and shards than scrolls.� By making the scrolls unbound you already had a way to get them outside of the quest.� Can't do that with shards/seals.� Let us trade 10 seals from an adventure pack for any 1 seal we want from that pack.� Or 20.� Or 30.� I don't care how hard it is to do, but if I run a quest 100 times that should be enough to get the item I'm looking for.� Infinite grind is stupid grind.� �This did nothing to fix that. The only issue with that, and it's really not an issue, is that by going down that avenue, you'll never see another seal/shard put up for roll again, regardless of it's worth.

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LordPiglet Stormreaver Piker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 660 Location: H-Town Joined: Jan 30^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #22 - Oct 21^st, 2011 at 9:27pm	Print Post
	Soul wrote on Oct 20^th, 2011 at 1:03pm: wow. Welp. I quit. can I have your stuff?


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Mondo Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 22 Joined: Oct 21^st, 2011	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #23 - Oct 21^st, 2011 at 11:22pm	Print Post
	Oakianus wrote on Oct 21^st, 2011 at 1:47pm: I think it definitely changes something, and that something is scroll farming. I have no problem with this idea in theory or practice, and the main reason is that it's been used for so long to absolutely gouge the shit out of players. This is taking the most easily accessible part of the epic item and making it accessible without having to have 30+ reds, which is the main way for any non-farmer to get themselves a Mari Chain scroll. Plus, imagine all of the instances having to be spawned for one dude to run around, aggro all the things and drop them into the scorp pit. Maybe it'll give us a fractional lag drop. Not that we'd be able to notice during Mabar, of course.... Good point, the main group that will be complaing about this, are the ones making a killing farming scrolls.

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Eladiun Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Two Time Loser Posts: 8398 Location: Rhode Island, USA Joined: Jun 17^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Epic Scroll trading Reply #24 - Oct 21^st, 2011 at 11:24pm	Print Post
	I scroll farm like a mofo and I like this change.

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