Edit: By the way Mem, if you do end up getting it and decide you want a physical security key (the key fob that issues out security keys for logging in) I have an extra one.

Well, I know I don't like the combat system - as I had a chance to test-drive it at PAX this past summer. However, I've been hearing great things about TOR, and I was hoping to have a few point clarified from those I know and trust.



I've heard that the character-development aspect of TOR is bar-none. Meaning, you have the opportunity to truly create a character, and not just an avatar. How true is this?

I think it's very true. You have a lot of opportunity to define your character through choices which push you light or dark and further affect what quests you'll get afterward. In game actions matter. For example I just did a q where I had to train militia. And I let a guy die. And the soldier was disappointed in me for allowing it to happen...

How is the character creation and character customization mechanics handled? Can you create a unique looking character - or do all Smugglers/Jedi/Troopers/Sith/Bounty Hunters look the same as every other?

The visual options for actual avatar creation aren't that extensive...but the gear options seem to be limitless. So nobody looks like a clone of another...except for raid gear. Same as ddo. But you see everything...gloves, boots, armor, pants, its all visually seen.

Do the Jedi/Sith overpower the other classes? Can a Tropper of like level stand up to a Sith?

It seems pretty balanced so far. I've not tried pvp or anything but its not so fas I can can tell. Hear sith sorc is overpowered though I haven't tried it.

How is the mix of solo play vs. need to group?

You can play the entire game solo. But the optimum way is to do a combo. There are heroic missions (Not raids) and flashpoints. They are both a little harder than qs and you often need a full group to do them but the rewards (xp, loot) are often worth it.

Additionally you get social points (not sure exactly what they do) for participating in uest convos with others AND it seems to me in some recent tests that you get more XP for quest optionals (which are must dos in this game cuz the xp is so good) when youre in a group. The most possible being in a group of four. Not sure thats WAI but its what ive noticed so far.

The much touted Fully Voiced - live up to the hype or not?

Every game's voice acting from this point on will be measured by TOR.



Pretty much, I've decided that the combat is something I could live with - if the rest of the game built around it is solid and well made. Also, I need a break from DDO and it's environs. It's gotten stale, and the direction DDO has taken in the back half of '11 has left me cold. I'd love to be engrossed in something new, in other words. All the good things I've been hearing about TOR indicate that it may be that - even though the combat turned me away at first. However, all my questions cannot be answered with my limited exposure to the game... it needs people who've played it for a bit, and delved into the red meat of the game.


Anybody playing TOR have some answers/insight for a struggling fellow gamer? 

Holy shit. Ambitious or actually that populated?

I also wonder how they're going to balance 2 faction PvP....3 factions just seem so much more self-balancing.

First thing is first - your ship has nothing to do with level.  When you finish the story line quests on the 2nd planet you get your own ship. 

Next, your cargo hold has plenty of room for crafting ing.  Also, the GAME FUCKING COUNTS THEM WHEN YOU CRAFT!  You heard me bitches, load that fucking cargo hold up and craft away as you roam the fucking planet.  Take that every other fucking mmo out there.  Take that right to the face.

About the level who gets it? You? People are commonly running around at lvl 13 with their ship.  Saying you get it around 16 or 17 is idiotic.  I was level 20 when I finished everything on that planet.

When you throw out levels people see expect to see things around those levels.  When you throw out how it is actually obtained, well, then people know how it is actually obtained! Really, how hard would of it been to type, "You get your ship after completing the main story on the 2nd planet for every class."

If you want, you can copy paste that to edit your post.  That way you actually pass on knowledge to upcoming players instead of nonsensical drivel.

OMG!  Brains FTW!

I would tell you that you just don't get it.  But from your numerous trouty posts in P&R I know it is a futile task.

I dont know exactly WHY it works...but basically you key it to your account, and after you do, you can't log into the game without that physical key which generates a number you use at login. Makes it harder to hack your account.

I don't know if its *impossible* but a lot harder.

Does choice of race mean anything beyond class restrictions?
I looked over some of the TOR wikis and their official site... and it didn't say anything about pros/cons of the races beyond who could be what class.


But, all the non-combat stuff is looking and sounding great. I feel a tad foolish for letting the combat turn me away from it initially...

Let me make it more clear for you zippy.  You get the ship from completing your story arc on the second planet.  That is the only requirement.  Mentioning levels without even mentioning that very important detail is fucking retarded.  You are the reason newbs become noobs.

Also, since I don't suck on oaks balls, I think you are a little retarded.  You can even ask Oak.  The only difference is, I don't freak out and pretend that ignoring any and all points or ideas made means I am correct.  When I am actually having a discussion with people I like to take in all the factors I can, not just my own inflated sense of self worth.  If this means I might possibly be proven wrong, I will bear such shame.  Maybe you should try it, accepting that you, are and can be, wrong.  I know I know, you are apart of some great and amazing party full of political morons.  You are never wrong nor are they, because you are all so great.

One day you will realize, the breaking down of these two political setups are actually the first step to improving our country.

The point is, you idiot, that you get it from completing the last quest of the planet.  No one cares if you know that, your point was to give out information, so do it correctly.  I know that as a political maroon it is impossible for you to actually give out anything accurate.  Try it though.  No one cares about what you think the average level range is to get it.  The fact is, you get it from completing the second planet.  There is no other factor to it.

Also, since you keep coming up with no completing heroics - what are you, fucking retarded? You and your companion can blow through heroic 2 zones with ease. 

Also, having 4 characters with a ship has nothing to do with how you get it nor add any credibility to your wrong information.

Last but not least, LIAF.