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Re: Looking for quirky, odd-ball Kensei Elf Build
Reply #25 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 4:20am
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Oakianus wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 4:12am:
Well, I meant if you wanted to stay centered and wield a second weapon without penalty, of course.  There's a chance that it might be worth it to just eat the penalties, of course.  I'd have to do the math and see what you're giving up when you start hitting epics.

Definitely seems like a solid build, though. 

Epoch, since this was your brain child, what do you think about going for an Int build?  Since you'll have 3rd level Artificer spells, you can go ahead and eschew strength and end up with the same damage modifier by just pumping up your Intelligence and casting Insightful Damage, and you've already got natural synergy with the Drow racial +2 Int.  Plus, then you're guaranteed to be able to do epic traps on top of all of the other advantages of this build. 


I forgot all about trapping! This build would be fantastic levelling too, so an all around winnar!
  
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Re: Looking for quirky, odd-ball Kensei Elf Build
Reply #26 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 5:05am
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hmm if you go an int build, insightful reflexes could probably be a better choice than toughness too. 1 saved spell or trap > 80hp that toughness would have netted you.

I really feel like this is starting to come together.
  

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Re: Looking for quirky, odd-ball Kensei Elf Build
Reply #27 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 5:48am
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OMG!  I didn't post the stats!  I am sooo sorry folks.  I thought I did, once again, I shouldn't post that trying to beat the clock to get off work.  Ok, here is the stat breakdown: 

Assuming you have only 28 point for the drow, if a tr then 30/32 would be lots better, as always with a multiclass.


Str -16
Dex-16
Con-12
Int-16

Lvl 4 stat boost - dex
lvl 8- int
lvl 12- int
lvl 16- str
lvl 20 str


Now, FULLY geared you will be looking at stats like this:

dex 17+2 enh+7 item+2 tome+1 profane= 28
str 18+10 item+3 tome+3 profane= 34
con 12+2 enh, 7 item, 2 tome, 3 profane= 26
int 16+2 enh, 10 item, 1 profane, 3 tome= 32

When raged your str will be sitting at 42, con at 34.
If you farm madstone boots for the clicky and the proc (thens witch back to abishai boots) and titan gloves, Your str will be in the 50's!  Your con will be sitting at 40. 

If you want a gear breakdown, let me know! 

I hope this answers your question oak!  Feel free to ask more questions!
  

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I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

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Re: Looking for quirky, odd-ball Kensei Elf Build
Reply #28 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 5:49am
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I updated my main post with a stat breakdown.  If you are dead set on kensai, let me know.  All you do is replace the barb levels with fighter.  I can provide a breakdown of that as well.
  

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I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

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Reply #29 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 10:05am
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so an all around winnar!


HAHAHAHAHHAHA

Its funny because Winnar needs a full raid group to get kills in vale.
  

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Reply #30 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 12:45pm
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stainer wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 10:05am:
HAHAHAHAHHAHA

Its funny because Winnar needs a full raid group to get kills in vale.

/sad Winnar
  
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Reply #31 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 12:46pm
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BTW, I saw Blank say, "winnar" and saw that stainer was the most recent post and knew what was coming.
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Reply #32 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 12:46pm
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Just 3 more levels and you can TR into something fabulous.
  

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Reply #33 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 3:47pm
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BTW, I saw Blank say, "winnar" and saw that stainer was the most recent post and knew what was coming.


What can I say? I'm a good assist.
  
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Re: Looking for quirky, odd-ball Kensei Elf Build
Reply #34 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 4:47pm
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I knew posting some dumb shit would pull you jackasses off your chairs!

Also, I said quirky/off-the-wall, not 'you'd need to be a PVS to think this is good'.

I landed an Icy this afternoon so, monk splash/dill is looking like a much stronger possibility.  Figures I would get it now instead of BEFORE getting my ranger life in.

I seem to remember reading that monk dill healing amp AP and actual monk healing amp AP stacked?  I'm missing the triple pos GS though to make a solid healing amp build.
  
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Reply #35 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 4:51pm
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Also, build help here is so much nicer than the main forums.  Ya'll make me feel so..so... Hi, Welcome.
  
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Reply #36 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 5:00pm
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Aeolwind wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 4:51pm:
Also, build help here is so much nicer than the main forums.  Ya'll make me feel so..so... Hi, Welcome.


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Reply #37 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 5:05pm
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That's the spirit!  And you fighter bard idea that fell in the midst of the humor has been rolling around.  I dug bard quite a bit before I LR'd it into a cleric.
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Reply #38 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 5:13pm
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Reply #39 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 7:09pm
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Aeolwind wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 5:05pm:
That's the spirit!  And you fighter bard idea that fell in the midst of the humor has been rolling around.  I dug bard quite a bit before I LR'd it into a cleric.


If you have access to hearts of wood, I did q write up on my bards build last life.

14/4 ftr/2 barb, but you could go rogue too. Helf with pally dilly.

This life I'm trying 15/3 rogue/2 ftr. Same race and dilly.
  
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Reply #40 - Feb 3rd, 2012 at 8:55pm
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If you have access to hearts of wood, I did q write up on my bards build last life.

14/4 ftr/2 barb, but you could go rogue too. Helf with pally dilly.

This life I'm trying 15/3 rogue/2 ftr. Same race and dilly.


I had a 3rd character, bard that I LR'd into a cleric when I decided to TR my main.  I like having a cleric as a fall back position, I'm decent at it and I ain't scared to chug pots to pull a victory from the jaws of stupidity.

I'd thought about Ghengis, but I really don't have the plethora of 2h's available.  I have a Pornifex, Blade of Fury, Cloudburst and that is about where I top out.  With U13 I'll be able to beat the luck monster and land a Terror though, hopefully before it get's nerfed.

I think I'm going to dig into a build with a 12 bard, 6 fighter, 2 rogue & heart in my fighter life.  Elf, a little self healing, CC, & Evasion.  I really dig half elf because of the dilettante, but the extra 2 to hit from elf would be a bit better I think.

I really wish I hadn't tried Arti so early.  Repeaters are sicksicksick when you aren't looking at Epic content.
  
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Reply #41 - Feb 4th, 2012 at 2:42am
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Aeolwind wrote on Feb 3rd, 2012 at 8:55pm:
I had a 3rd character, bard that I LR'd into a cleric when I decided to TR my main.  I like having a cleric as a fall back position, I'm decent at it and I ain't scared to chug pots to pull a victory from the jaws of stupidity.

I'd thought about Ghengis, but I really don't have the plethora of 2h's available.  I have a Pornifex, Blade of Fury, Cloudburst and that is about where I top out.  With U13 I'll be able to beat the luck monster and land a Terror though, hopefully before it get's nerfed.

I think I'm going to dig into a build with a 12 bard, 6 fighter, 2 rogue & heart in my fighter life.  Elf, a little self healing, CC, & Evasion.  I really dig half elf because of the dilettante, but the extra 2 to hit from elf would be a bit better I think.

I really wish I hadn't tried Arti so early.  Repeaters are sicksicksick when you aren't looking at Epic content.


With that setup, go for stalwart defender pre and enjoy the extra HP. I'm thinking of making Warcrye a 14/6 HOrc third life for the amazingness of 12/6/2 HElf with the super saves, but +16 dmg per hit is pretty sexy (HOrc thf aps)
  
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Re: Looking for quirky, odd-ball Kensei Elf Build
Reply #42 - Feb 4th, 2012 at 4:19am
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Are you saying you don't like my build?!?!!?!?
  

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Reply #43 - Feb 4th, 2012 at 12:49pm
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Epoch wrote on Feb 4th, 2012 at 4:19am:
Are you saying you don't like my build?!?!!?!?


I love it!  I'm just not uber enough to pull it off!!  I like my builds to come off like porn star clothes on take 2.
  
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Reply #44 - Feb 20th, 2012 at 4:39pm
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Stupidly enough I went with this:

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Aeolwind Life4-PaladinPL
Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(18 Paladin \ 2 Monk)
Hit Points: 388
Spell Points: 338
BAB: 19\19\24\29\29
Fortitude: 26
Reflex: 21
Will: 21

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 20)           (Level 20)
Strength             15                 23                   24
Dexterity            15                 18                   18
Constitution         14                 17                   18
Intelligence         10                 13                   13
Wisdom               14                 17                   18
Charisma             14                 17                   18

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 11
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11
+3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11

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                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               2                     4
Bluff                 2                     4
Concentration         2                     7
Diplomacy             2                     4
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                     4
Heal                  2                     4
Hide                  2                     4
Intimidate            2                     9
Jump                  2                     7
Listen                2                     4
Move Silently         2                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                     1
Search                0                     1
Spot                  2                     6
Swim                  2                     7
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Selected) Two Weapon Fighting


Level 2 (Paladin)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Warrior of the Wild


Level 4 (Paladin)


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Paladin)


Level 11 (Paladin)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting


Level 16 (Paladin)


Level 17 (Paladin)


Level 18 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise


Level 19 (Paladin)


Level 20 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Paladin Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Undying Call
Enhancement: Follower of the Undying Court
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante I
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante II
Enhancement: Improved Cleric Dilettante III
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Human Greater Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Way of the Tenacious Badger I
Enhancement: Paladin Courage of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good IV
Enhancement: Paladin Focus of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Exalted Smite I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil II
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys I
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys II
Enhancement: Paladin Defender of Siberys III
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness III
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate I
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate II
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate III
Enhancement: Improved Intimidate IV
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness IV
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Might II

  
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Re: Looking for quirky, odd-ball Kensei Elf Build
Reply #45 - Feb 21st, 2012 at 1:59am
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Aeolwind wrote on Feb 20th, 2012 at 4:39pm:
Stupidly enough I went with this:



Well, ya.  Of course.

Who wouldn't want to make their quirky, elven, kensai build a half elf paladin?  I mean, that's such a no-brainer!
  

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Reply #46 - Feb 21st, 2012 at 7:19pm
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Osharan Tregarth wrote on Feb 21st, 2012 at 1:59am:
Well, ya.  Of course.

Who wouldn't want to make their quirky, elven, kensai build a half elf paladin?  I mean, that's such a no-brainer!


lol, Current build is a 6 Arti/11 Ranger, last 3 prob fighter, could be bard though, I'll decide when I get there.  Guy I run with is a 7 wiz, 8 fighter, 1 Rogue and the other is a Cleric Arcane Archer.  We take Quirky to Dispel levels of stupidity, laugh about it & TR.  What changed this out is I found I could get more AC going paladin and having holes in gear rather than staying fighter.  We pug some raids that will have us, makes it easy though, bad groups we automatically get rejected from, good groups don't care.
  
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Reply #47 - Feb 22nd, 2012 at 5:57pm
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why 14 wisdom and shield mastery? monk ac bonus won't apply with a shield equipped.
  

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Reply #48 - Feb 22nd, 2012 at 6:39pm
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Felgor wrote on Feb 22nd, 2012 at 5:57pm:
why 14 wisdom and shield mastery? monk ac bonus won't apply with a shield equipped.

Correct, built that way for the stuff that will land hits regardless of AC.  I'd considered swapping it for Empower Healing.  I don't qualify for the TWF feats or CE that early and didn't want to grab Power Attack there since I was holding it for the monk feat.
  
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