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Mar 6th, 2012 at 8:17am
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Here I am once again, asking for help on a build to help me reach completionist... and as per usual, I have no idea about rangers so I need hjelpz!

I posted this on the other forums, but lots of conflicting ideas.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?p=4350478#post4350478

Essentially, I'm looking for a monk build with 11 ranger levels, because gear is tight and I don't have room in my inventory for twf weapons. I have wraps though, so should be set in that respect.

- 36 pt build, using wraps.
- Past lives: wizard, bard, monk
- Preference: WF 11 ranger/9 monk (immunities, improved evasion/touch of death/shadow fade/free twf line ftw!)

Is this workable?

My main concerns are:

- Starting stats
- Which class to take at which level
- How to spend AP

Any advice would be gratefully received Smiley
  
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Re: Build request: 36 pt ranger/monk
Reply #1 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 11:05am
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Just go full ranger.  Don't gimp yourself over a need to be retarded.  If you do not have the room to use two freaking weapons, you probably shouldn't be going for completionist.  Just saying.

Since I doubt my criticism means anything to you - fuck wf.  Go H-elf or human.  You can use cure serious wands and with healing amp you are solid. 

Another thing, if you are going for completionist just straight away.  Get sued to adding one level of rogue to every build and always the first level.  That UMD will make your ride that much easier.
  

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Re: Build request: 36 pt ranger/monk
Reply #2 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 12:40pm
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Epoch wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 11:05am:
Get sued


I see what you did there!

Overall, in a gruff way, Epoch is correct.  Go half elf, take either monk dill for amp & wis AC or cleric dill for scrolls and run ranger full boat.  You still get evasion at 9 and have decent saves.  I prefer splashing 1 arti over rogue on a ranger as it will give you better UMD, same traps/locks, a puppy for levers/buttons, & the xbow feats if you need them. 

For what it brings to the table, WF is kinda crappy for TR'ing unless you are a caster.
  
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Reply #3 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 4:58pm
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Epoch wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 11:05am:
If you do not have the room to use two freaking weapons, you probably shouldn't be going for completionist.  Just saying.


Criticism allowed but I don't get your point here... the whole point of these lives is that they are just transitory, and my inventory/bank/TR bank is already full of gear in preparation for my final life (wizard). I have wraps for monk lives and I have a few GS and GA for most of the melee lives so how the hell am I supposed to find space in my already limited inventory for yet more weapons? And why does that mean I shouldn't be going completionist? The only lives I really need these for are rogue and ranger, so why waste precious space?

  
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Reply #4 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:27pm
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Could just go THF if you're that cheap with your inventory. Or go 1 ranger, 1 monk, 1 arti/rogue, rest ranger.
  
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Reply #5 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:45pm
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Nothingtoseehere wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 4:58pm:
Criticism allowed but I don't get your point here... the whole point of these lives is that they are just transitory, and my inventory/bank/TR bank is already full of gear in preparation for my final life (wizard). I have wraps for monk lives and I have a few GS and GA for most of the melee lives so how the hell am I supposed to find space in my already limited inventory for yet more weapons? And why does that mean I shouldn't be going completionist? The only lives I really need these for are rogue and ranger, so why waste precious space?



You have one set of general purpose Greensteel Lit2 weapons, possibly a triple pos.  Prior to 12 you use random loot gen or crafted stuff that you break back down.  Then, you have 1 Lit2 Greensteel Falchion or Greatsword.  4 weapons covers just about everything you ever need.  If you make them longswords, you can WSS your way through monk as well.
  
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Reply #6 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:47pm
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Keep in mind I'm not saying you are 'wrong', just saying don't miss the hot naked babe for the car.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:52pm
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You can do 11/9 ranger/monk. You won't be awesome, you'll be a level 9 monk with 11 wasted levels. But if it's transitory, fuck it.

I second the helf. Those dillys are nice. What does WF bring to the table for you as either a ranger or a monk mutt? immunities are nice, i guess.
  
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Re: Build request: 36 pt ranger/monk
Reply #8 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 6:04pm
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Nothingtoseehere wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 4:58pm:
Criticism allowed but I don't get your point here... the whole point of these lives is that they are just transitory, and my inventory/bank/TR bank is already full of gear in preparation for my final life (wizard). I have wraps for monk lives and I have a few GS and GA for most of the melee lives so how the hell am I supposed to find space in my already limited inventory for yet more weapons? And why does that mean I shouldn't be going completionist? The only lives I really need these for are rogue and ranger, so why waste precious space?



The idea that you do not have room for two mangy weapons is laughable.  Two cheap shroud weapons, and the rest of twf weapons can be btc shit in the shared bank or on some alt toon.

If you can't actually play a TWF life because you don't have room, then DDO must be a little hard for you.

Anyways, fuck being wf.  You are a ranger, you can heal yourself for well over 100 on a cure mod as a human or h-elf.
  

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I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

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Reply #9 - Mar 6th, 2012 at 6:14pm
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rest wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 5:52pm:
You can do 11/9 ranger/monk. You won't be awesome, you'll be a level 9 monk with 11 wasted levels. But if it's transitory, fuck it.

I second the helf. Those dillys are nice. What does WF bring to the table for you as either a ranger or a monk mutt? immunities are nice, i guess.

BAB, buffs, some heals.  Might work OK as an AC build with focus on amp and 10k stars/Multishot.
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 7th, 2012 at 7:53am
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Epoch wrote on Mar 6th, 2012 at 6:04pm:
The idea that you do not have room for two mangy weapons is laughable.  Two cheap shroud weapons, and the rest of twf weapons can be btc shit in the shared bank or on some alt toon.

If you can't actually play a TWF life because you don't have room, then DDO must be a little hard for you.


Also, the opposite could be said; if I can play a gimpy build and manage to level without any problems, then maybe DDO isn't as hard as some people make it out to be after all... maybe I just like a challenge and don't want to take the easy option and go dual wielding on a ranger.


  
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An alternative I suppose could be 11 ranger/7 fighter/ 2 rogue and go THF...
  
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Re: Build request: 36 pt ranger/monk
Reply #12 - Mar 7th, 2012 at 8:22am
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Nothingtoseehere wrote on Mar 7th, 2012 at 7:53am:
Also, the opposite could be said; if I can play a gimpy build and manage to level without any problems, then maybe DDO isn't as hard as some people make it out to be after all... maybe I just like a challenge and don't want to take the easy option and go dual wielding on a ranger.





It has nothing to do with being hard or easy.  You aren't looking to go the easy route by skipping twf on a ranger.  You are trying to be a cheap ass bastard and gimp your build on purpose so you can skate by another TR.  In short, you are trying to go easy mode and put little effort into your TR.
  

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I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

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Re: Build request: 36 pt ranger/monk
Reply #13 - Mar 7th, 2012 at 8:25am
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Nothingtoseehere wrote on Mar 7th, 2012 at 8:04am:
An alternative I suppose could be 11 ranger/7 fighter/ 2 rogue and go THF...



An alternative would be to go 6 ranger, 12 fighter, and 2 rogue, go THF, then use a +5 heart before TR'ing.  Then you could claim the rams might and resist spell is why you went ranger.  Also, 8 ranger and 12 fighter then use a +3 heart before TR'ing.  Both of them far better options then the craziness you suggest.

Alternatively, you could go 20 ranger and go AA.  I hear it is hard mode.
  

OnePercenter wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 9:41am:
I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27th, 2014 at 2:09am:
It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity.
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Reply #14 - Mar 7th, 2012 at 9:23am
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Nothingtoseehere wrote on Mar 7th, 2012 at 7:53am:
Also, the opposite could be said; if I can play a gimpy build and manage to level without any problems, then maybe DDO isn't as hard as some people make it out to be after all... maybe I just like a challenge and don't want to take the easy option and go dual wielding on a ranger.



Well shit - if it's a challenge you want, then try making it through a TR as a ranger and kill absolutely nothing. Solo with a hireling and use your SP to keep it alive while it does the quest for you.

You're just being intentionally obstinate and lazy. Fucktard.
  
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