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FvS Build, Short Sword, TWF :'(
Mar 14th, 2012 at 2:22pm
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Totally aware it is way under optimum (and more gimp than the dude in pulp fiction), however my buddy had his GS weapons as SS's as we decided post their creation to hop on the TR stuff.  I'm just trying to keep it completely out of the bottom of the gutter.  There will be a rogue/assassin and an AC paladin build with it, so solo efficient isn't needed.  Durable a bonus however.

Only option is what, Drow?  Quicken, Max, TWF, ITWF, GTWF, IC:P, Toughness; 32pt. drow
Str-15
Dex-16
Con-12
Int-10
Wis-14
Cha-16

+2 tomes, level ups in str(?)

Thoughts? aside from 'don't do it' & 'stop'....
  
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Re: FvS Build, Short Sword, TWF :'(
Reply #1 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 2:24pm
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Doesn't need to have cha that high. It might be useful to put those points elsewhere.
  

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Reply #2 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 2:25pm
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stainer wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 2:24pm:
Doesn't need to have cha that high. It might be useful to put those points elsewhere.

So dump Cha like int?

Could do
17 str
15 dex
12 con
10 int
15 wis
10 cha
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Reply #3 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 2:26pm
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Aeolwind wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 2:25pm:
So dump Cha like int?


Not totally. I think you need a 11 (w/ a +6 item) or so to cast high level spells.
  

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stainer wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 2:26pm:
Not totally. I think you need a 11 (w/ a +6 item) or so to cast high level spells.

Spells cha based, resists wis based?

16 str
15 dex
12 con
10 int
15 wis
13 cha

19 with just 6cha item.
  
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Re: FvS Build, Short Sword, TWF :'(
Reply #5 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 3:26pm
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Aeolwind wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 2:47pm:
Spells cha based, resists wis based?


You can dump wis. You won't need it. Your blade barrier will be ok, and your healing spells don't rely on it.

Woodburning started with 8.

http://my.ddo.com/character/khyber/woodburning/
  

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Reply #6 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 4:00pm
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stainer wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 3:26pm:
You can dump wis. You won't need it. Your blade barrier will be ok, and your healing spells don't rely on it.

Woodburning started with 8.

http://my.ddo.com/character/khyber/woodburning/

Perfect!  I'll be the paladin next life thank god.  I think the plan is for me to hit my FvS life after that, maybe bard.
  
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Reply #7 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 4:09pm
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stainer wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 3:26pm:
You can dump wis. You won't need it. Your blade barrier will be ok, and your healing spells don't rely on it.

Woodburning started with 8.

http://my.ddo.com/character/khyber/woodburning/


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Reply #8 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 4:28pm
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Drow FVS isn't too terrible. It's pretty terrible, but at least with a competent, SP heavy self healing class you can easily mitigate the CON hit.

Shortswords suck though, urgh.
  
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Reply #9 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 4:44pm
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kum-gulp wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 4:28pm:
Drow FVS isn't too terrible. It's pretty terrible, but at least with a competent, SP heavy self healing class you can easily mitigate the CON hit.

Shortswords suck though, urgh.

At least they are a Lit2 and a Min2.  The only reason I would subject myself to coming up with a SS build is at minimum a Lit2.
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 14th, 2012 at 4:45pm
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The Epic SS from the new pack aren't too bad.

  

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Eladiun wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 4:45pm:
The Epic SS from the new pack aren't too bad.



They really don't help with the leveling process though.  I mean, I wouldn't revolve a build around a broken down Blade of Fury/Shadowstaff combo.  I do like the enervate on the EEB though, what is the proc rate like?
  
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Re: FvS Build, Short Sword, TWF :'(
Reply #12 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 4:03am
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I noticed you have a 12 con.  YOU MIGHT WANT TO FIX THAT IF YOU PLAN ON BEING MELEE.
  

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Epoch wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 4:03am:
I noticed you have a 12 con.  YOU MIGHT WANT TO FIX THAT IF YOU PLAN ON BEING MELEE.

I won't be playing the build, and will have a 85ish AC at 16 on my char.  His life expectancy is of little concern to me.  Smiley
  
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Reply #14 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 11:26am
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Aeolwind wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 2:47pm:
Spells cha based, resists wis based?

16 str
15 dex
12 con
10 int
15 wis
13 cha

19 with just 6cha item.


Why not give yourself a fighting chance.  Consider giving your toon 14 or better con.  You have a penalty to work against.

  
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Reply #15 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 3:28pm
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17 str
15 dex
14 con
10 int
9 wis
13 cha

And ya'll are supposed to be 'the evil underbelly of DDO'?  <3
  
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Reply #16 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 7:14pm
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Aeolwind wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 3:28pm:
17 str
15 dex
14 con
10 int
9 wis
13 cha

And ya'll are supposed to be 'the evil underbelly of DDO'?  <3


On a 32pt drow fvs I was running from 1-20 with no plans on end game I would go:

Str 15        +2tome/+6item   +3 exceptional   =26
Dex 16       +2tome/+6item                          =24
Con 14       +2tome/+6item   +2 exceptional   =24
Int  11       +1tome/+6item                          =18
Wis 14       +2tome/+6item                          =22
Chr  11       +2tome/+6item                         =19


On a fly by build that won't be raid healing you can do a lot more melee wise.  I'd take the two monk split to gain useful evasion.  So feats/levels would look like:
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Level      BAB      Class      Max Skill      Feat 1      Feat 2
1      0      Monk      4              TWF             Toughness
2      1      FvS      5            
3      2      FvS      6              Extend      
4      3      FvS      7            
5      3      FvS      8            
6      4      Monk      9            PA            Free Feat
7      5      FvS      10            
8      6      FvS      11            
9      6      FvS      12              ITWF      
10      7      FvS      13            
11      8      FvS      14            
12      9      FvS      15              IC:Slash      
13      9      FvS      16            
14      10      FvS      17            
15      11      FvS      18              Maximize      
16      12      FvS      19            
17      12      FvS      20            
18      13      FvS      21              GTWF      
19      14      FvS      22            
20      15      FvS      23
     

Positives:

Short sword enhancement line.  Divine Power/Divine Favor allows decent to hit when you want it.

Wisdom allows you to open wis runes, get off greater commands on low will save mobs.  Comets still knock mobs over in most content.

Charisma is adequate to allow 9th level spellcasting.

You have enough hit points to not waste a decent portion of your sp to keep yourself from dying after gaining aggro.

Free feat can be CE/Quicken/Empower/Empower Healing Spell depending on your focus.  Or you can dump Extend and and take two of the four.

Evasion allows you to ignore most of the game's splash damage while leveling.

Two monk split allows for stance switching for stat boosting/decent to good ac for levelling that works well until Amrath.  You also gain handwrap use for banishing/disrupting/ooze and rust monster killing.

The build is more than strong enough to solo 1-20 without issue.  But can provide healing for people not riding the short bus.          


  
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Reply #17 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 8:51pm
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Madcow430 wrote on Mar 15th, 2012 at 7:14pm:
But can provide healing for people not riding the short bus.

Well, we're screwed then!  Grin

Bitchin' layout Cow, thanks very much.  Prob have him swap max with extend and take CE at 15 & pickup quicken on the free at 6.
  
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Reply #18 - Mar 15th, 2012 at 11:19pm
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Eladiun wrote on Mar 14th, 2012 at 4:45pm:
The Epic SS from the new pack aren't too bad.

The good ole fashioned Epic Cutthroat's Smallblade isn’t a bad weapon either.  Also, there may be some decent gish build opportunities with a Divine Avenger/Tempest in the future.
  

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