Meat-Head wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 4:57pm:


It is stupid as hell and I will tell your mom that later tonight.

They cant think with their heads so far up their asses!!!

The only thing you can say about this is at least it is different than the last idea.

Theme of this update: Don't pursue excellence in any aspect. (Well, other than straight DPS. Because balancing against anything but redbars is HAAARD.)

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You know damn good and well the "bonus" will be something particularly crappy like your level 1 evocation spells get +1 to their DC for 3 seconds or some other useless nonsense.

More retardation followed by slightly lesser retardation that is then heralded as "awesome".

FML, why did I recently re-invest in my PM?

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They mentioned doing it for the enhancement pass.
You know, that thing they've put off 3 times now.

rest wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 6:17pm:


Tonight or tomorrow will be run 94!

Schmoe wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 6:54pm:

Eh, true. Other than adding to the DC I don't know how they'd buff that. Maybe a reduced cost for heighten plus a spell power increase.

Or if we are looking for worst implementation maybe they'll just toss the equivalent of masters touch and divine power on you so you can melee them down.

Grace wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 7:26pm:


Well, they started with the dumb premise of making things 'harder' by just giving them more hitpoints, so is it any surprise that they keep running into problems with Basic D&D concepts that basicly say 'that's nice, fuck you', like vorpal and wail?

rest wrote on Jun 8^th, 2012 at 7:41pm:


Man I really want to watch some Stephen Segal movies now...

Let's assume that instakills needed to be toned down or made less effective, what would you do?

In team play, I don't see this idea being that big of a deal. You get essentially one sucessful wail per major trash encounter. Seems fine.

It DOES screw with soloing though. So you'll have to be a little more patient there I guess. It will take me longer to solo farm scrolls on my sorc in echrono, that's for sure.

But don't the new epic items not use the scroll/seal/shard crap anyway?


I'm curious, which is it for those of you who hate it:

1. Don't screw my death spells at all. I like em.

OR

2. Then need adjusted some, but THIS isn't the way.

I do like the idea that the kills will buff the pale master necro damage spells.  Hopefully that makes it in.

I can live with haunting.

I think they actually had this idea from the start but showed us the "hard to kill" so that we don't feel this is so bad.

I really don't mind having saves go up.  I'll still be fine.

I would rather they have more mobs buff a variety of spells.  Right now, if there are 2 divine mobs next to each other, you'll see both sometimes toss out a mass deathward.  If the AI was better, one of them would have tossed out a different mass and both would also toss out a FoM after that mass. 

I'd also like to be able to debuff those spells but with the way the dispels and disjunction work, we don't actually stand any chance of making that happen.