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Jun 10th, 2012 at 9:19am
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Whatever thread this guy is talking about in this post on the main forum:

http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p=4513003&postcount=11

According to this guy; divine spells are being released to the druid class and not to the cleric and fvs.  I'd like to verify this. 

Tried a few searches and got nothing.  With the way the forums are since they 'updated' it this is no surprise.  Anyway, has anyone seen this supposed discussion?
  
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Reply #1 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 11:08am
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Last I checked on the beta they hadn't released any of the new spells like Storm of Vengeance.  If they give them to druids only, I'll go get my 10 infractions in one post.
  
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Reply #2 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 12:15pm
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New spells have been on for a while, but they're druid only.
  
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Reply #3 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 12:23pm
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Okay.

My question is though that this guy is citing an official discussion or whatever without linking the source.  I'd like to see whatever source that is if possible.

Should divine core class spells have been made available to only the subset class (druid) and not the core classes...  yeah it's time to put my last two divnes away.  Before deciding, I'd like to be sure though as I actually like/have put some work into my last two.
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Reply #4 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 12:37pm
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When he says "already discussed in closed beta" I would bet anything that he means "some idiots (myself included) argued about this in a thread the devs ignored".
  
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Reply #5 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 2:31pm
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I don't remember that being said in closed beta.
  

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Reply #6 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:28pm
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I don't really know if there is a quotable official source, but all you have to do is look at artificer.  New spells were added only to artificer and not given to divines.  They need to make their new shiny class special, this will continue to happen.
  
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Reply #7 - Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:41pm
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Not news, druid list in 3.0/3.5 is different.
  
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Tobril wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:41pm:
Not news, druid list in 3.0/3.5 is different.


Oh yeah.  Try http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/lists/spells&tablefilter=druid
and search for druid to see tons of druid-only spells.
A few highlights:

Call Lightning Storm
Cloudburst
Creeping Cold
Dehydrate
Drown
Flameblade
Heatstroke
Infestation of Maggots  (personal fav)
Memory Rot  (lol)
Miasma
Quil Blast
Quilifire
Sandblast
Starvation
Swamp Lung
Tsunami
Warp Wood

And this searches only 2 of the many v. 3.5 publications.

As I recall from PNP, druids were the only class that, at level one, could effortlessly incapacitate everything in an 80-foot diameter from 500 feet away for an entire fight.
  

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Reply #9 - Jun 11th, 2012 at 1:13am
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Tobril wrote on Jun 10th, 2012 at 6:41pm:
Not news, druid list in 3.0/3.5 is different.


Tobril, are you seriously inferring that Earthquake and Storm of Vengeance are Druid only spells?

I have a multi tr I will be rolling a druid with for fun.  My only point is that spells that are available to divines should be available to divines when they are added to the game.  Not restricted to one subset of the class sphere. 
  
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Reply #10 - Jun 12th, 2012 at 1:22am
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Madcow430 wrote on Jun 11th, 2012 at 1:13am:
Tobril, are you seriously inferring that Earthquake and Storm of Vengeance are Druid only spells?

I have a multi tr I will be rolling a druid with for fun.  My only point is that spells that are available to divines should be available to divines when they are added to the game.  Not restricted to one subset of the class sphere. 


I usually agree with you, but that would mean Rangers and Paladins should get new spells too, and Zeal made available to FvS and Cleric. Druids do have their own spell list, and Turbine is adding Druid spells to the game.

It would also mean giving Ice Storm to Cleric and FvS. The spell lists are separate.

The fact that they don't give a fuck about new Divine spells for Cleric and FvS is another issue.
  

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Reply #11 - Jun 12th, 2012 at 9:13am
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Felgor wrote on Jun 12th, 2012 at 1:22am:
I usually agree with you, but that would mean Rangers and Paladins should get new spells too, and Zeal made available to FvS and Cleric. Druids do have their own spell list, and Turbine is adding Druid spells to the game.

It would also mean giving Ice Storm to Cleric and FvS. The spell lists are separate.

The fact that they don't give a fuck about new Divine spells for Cleric and FvS is another issue.


Actually, Rangers did get more spells added to their spell list.  And the only way that clerics should get Zeal or Ice Storm is is Turbine stopped being a bunch of fucktards and implemented domains.  (Zeal is only available to paladins or clerics with the competition domain.  Ice Storm is only available to clerics with the Cold, Storm, Water and Windstorm domains.)  God forbid that clerics get something over the Pay to Play class.

Edit: (I was prepping for work and forgot to add this point) But, that is not an excuse to not add source material spells like Earthquake to the Cleric/FvS lists.
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Reply #12 - Jun 12th, 2012 at 3:18pm
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Domains would be really awesome.  I loved them in PnP.
  

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Spelljammer wrote on Jun 12th, 2012 at 3:18pm:
Domains would be really awesome.  I loved them in PnP.


Yeah. Domains were awesome. The Beer Domain was great.
  
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Reply #14 - Jun 12th, 2012 at 3:57pm
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After Create Beer, the rest of the spells were a letdown until Summon Beer Elemental.
  

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Reply #15 - Jun 12th, 2012 at 4:47pm
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popejubal wrote on Jun 12th, 2012 at 3:57pm:
After Create Beer, the rest of the spells were a letdown until Summon Beer Elemental.



Summon Beer Elemental is my favorite spell!

  

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Reply #16 - Jun 12th, 2012 at 6:05pm
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Storm of Vengeance was a 'quest' spell from the TOM in 2nd edition, was cleric only back then.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/stormOfVengeance.htm

Druid and cleric it seems it should be.

http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/callLightningStorm.htm

5th level druid spell, druid only it should be.
  
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