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Dec 12th, 2012 at 7:43pm
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STILL EDITTING-- WORKINPROGRESS

Goal: Solid/Near top tier dps + the ability to tank with some gear/destiny swapping.


Human (heal amp + Feat)
12 dark monk (ToD, Heal Amp, Abundant Step, 3d6 Sneak, Stun (obvs), Monk AC, SHADOWFADE, Earth III)
6 Pally: AC Aura, Saves, Fear immunity, LOH, Divine Righteousness, DoS stance I
2 FTR: Haste boost, feats, ftr STR I


STATS (34 points PL Monk)


Starting                                                Approx final buffed*
STR 16  (10pts)  +3 levels +4 Tome                        46    (18mod)
DEX 14  (6pts)    +3 tome                                      26    (8 mod)
CON 14 (6pts)    +4 tome                                      44     (17 mod)
INT  10  (2pts)   +3 tome                                       15    (lol mod)
WIS  16  (10pts) +3 levels +4 tome                         42    (16mod)
CHA  8   (0)       +2 tome                                      22     (6 mod)



Feats: (13+2)

Toughness
Toughness
Past Life Monk
Stunning Fist
TWF
iTWF
gTWF
Imp Crit
Dodge
Combat Expertise
Power Attack
Cleave
Great Cleave
Epic1: Vorpal Strikes
Epic2: Overwhelming Crit



Stunning Fist: 60 DC
(10+10wraps+5exceptional+6twist of fate+12levels+17mod)

AC: ~100

Threat: 365% BEFORE gear Or Sentinel Special ability

(+25% Pally+55% earth3+8S% ATSentinelstance+100% Divine Righteousness)

Hitpoints:  1003
(96monk+80pally/ftr+30gfl+20toughnessitem+100 sentinel+46toughnessfeats+50toughness enhancements+50epiclevels+340con+45shroud+10ghfavor+20guildslot+10tortiseII+15st
andingwithstone=912*1.1(stance)=1003)

Heal Amp: 290% incoming with typical setup.


Saves(Tanking): 64/55/57


PRR (Tanking) 57 Before Gear (35PRR twists, 12 earth3, 10DOSI)

AC: 87?
(3ship+9armor+8dex+16wis+2aura+4natural+9centered+5deflection+1ritual+4shieldwan
d+4insight=65+6dos1[10%]+9earth3[15%]+6.5CE[10%]=86.5??)


Enhancements (80pts)

1 Pally AC Class Boost I      
1 Pally Bulwark of Good I
1 Pally Courage of Good I
1 Pally Focus of Good I
1 Pally resistance of Good I
1 Pally toughness I
1 Pally toughness 2
1 Divine Sacrifice
1 Divine Righteousness
4 Defender of Sib I
2 Ftr Str I
4 Ninjaspy I
2 Ninjaspy II
2 Earthstance II
3 Earthstance III
2 Monk elec curse
2 Monk fire curse
2 Monk water curse
2 Monk Earth curse
4 Touch of Death
1 Tortise I
2 Tortise II
2 Monk wis I
2 Tumble 1 & 2
2 Jump 1&2
12 Monk heal amp 30%
12 Human Heal amp 30%
2 Human Con I
6 Human toughness 1, 2, 3


Tanking Destiny: Sentinel (Duh)
DPS Destiny: GMOF  (EIN.. I mean.. yeah)

Tanking Twists:

t4 Standing with Stone
t2 Improved CE
t1 Unearthly Reactions





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STR 16+4tome+3levels+7item+1exc+1ftr+2DOSstance+2ship+2Yugo+4primalscream+3profane=4
6
DEX
14+3 tome+6item+1exc+2ship= 26
CON
14+4tome+3monkstance+1human+2DOSstance+2ship+7item+2insight+1exc+5primalscream+3
sentinel for tanking=44
INT
10+3tome+2ship= 15
WIS
16+4tome+3levels+7item+2insight+1monk+2ship+2yugo++2alchemical+3destinywhennotta
nking=42
CHA
8+2tome+7item+1exc+2yugo+2ship=22
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Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration.

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Reply #1 - Dec 13th, 2012 at 4:19am
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Piece of shit.
  

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More than /2 pally on anything is stupid.
  

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Reply #3 - Dec 13th, 2012 at 8:07am
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Can you post the gear set?

What exactly do you plan on tanking? EE LOB? EE CitW?

I believe Primal Scream doesn't stack with DoS I stance, since it's a rage effect.

NOTdarth wrote on Dec 13th, 2012 at 6:11am:
More than /2 pally on anything is stupid.


For the most part I agree.  Might be worth exploring whether or not 40 Devotion enhancements and 75 Devotion (Empower Healing Spell) from 6 Paladin would make Rejuv Cocoon worth twisting.
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Luxgolg wrote on Dec 13th, 2012 at 9:44am:

Hasn't been updated since AC got revamped.
  
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Carpone wrote on Dec 13th, 2012 at 8:07am:
Can you post the gear set?

What exactly do you plan on tanking? EE LOB? EE CitW?

Dunno if I plan on doing those. Prolly not. No real need to do those on EE atm anyway. So.. meh. Prolly more like EH LOB etc. BUT, when I'm not tanking, I would fill a solid DPS roll.

I believe Primal Scream doesn't stack with DoS I stance, since it's a rage effect.

Scream THEN stance and you're good (from what I've read, haven't tested personally)

For the most part I agree.  Might be worth exploring whether or not 40 Devotion enhancements and 75 Devotion (Empower Healing Spell) from 6 Paladin would make Rejuv Cocoon worth twisting.



Why 6 Pally over 6 Fighter?

1. 1 more to AC & Saves (aura) than 2 pally
2. LOH
3. Divine righteousness (holy hate batman.. pun intended)
4. Divine Sacrifice (dps/hate)
5. Fear immunity
6. 1 more to saves from DoS stance
7. Little bit of selfheals via blue bar/spells.
8. I wanna turn undead in epic content! (I jest)


Biggest reasons would be #3 and 4.



What do I lose? 46 hitpoints. (2 toughness feats).   Worth it imo.
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Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration.

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Luxgolg wrote on Dec 13th, 2012 at 9:44am:



Yes. I'm blatently using that as a basis. BUT, my focus is MORE dps by trading in some hitpoints (toughness feats) for the cleaves ---> O crit.


With spamming divine sacrifice while tanking, I can hit  X5 crit multiplier ON A MONK.

(x2 base, +1 earth stance, +1o.crit, +1 divine sac).


Then I could swap to LD or GMOF for normal questing and get even crazier.
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Divine sacrifice suppresses your off-hand attack,
ditto for the enhancement smites.

I found I didn't need the extra hate back in the day
when this build was useful.  The extra feats from the
6 fighter were much better and stalwart is cheaper
to buy than the pally defender.

Hitting lialat and lob intim thresholds will be difficult
at best, although the good news is those bosses
will chew up this build pretty quick.

Honestly though until a racial defender line happens
the various monk tanks are relegated to DPS for EE
due to low PRR.

  
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Tobril wrote on Dec 13th, 2012 at 10:43am:
Divine sacrifice suppresses your off-hand attack,
ditto for the enhancement smites.

I found I didn't need the extra hate back in the day
when this build was useful.  The extra feats from the
6 fighter were
50 hitpoints much better and stalwart is cheaper
to buy than the pally defender.

Hitting lialat and lob intim thresholds will be difficult
at best, although the good news is those bosses
will chew up this build pretty quick.
meh. EH should be doable. 25% shadowfade, 10% ghostly, 10%ish dodge, AC high enough for them to miss maybe 20%ish of the time mixed with about 28% damage reduction (PRR) and 290%+ heal amp should be pretty workable for EHs.


Honestly though until a racial defender line happens
the various monk tanks are relegated to DPS for EE
due to low PRR.
And I'm pretty much fine with this. I wanted a DPS toon that can tank when needed. I think this works for that purpose. No?



  

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Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration.

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More like improved sunder and weapon specialization,
though paladin makes up for the latter with divine favor
and divine might which you did not mention.

You might also consider helf for more dips or better
shortman contribution as you have an extra feat.


I tried both splits and tanked damn near everything
before u14 (though not epic lob just normal/hard) and
have a pretty good feel for the platform.

Mine is a ranger/fighter split now and can still "tank"
EH though he occasionally needs a healer for certain
bosses.  The ranger gives lot of feats, not to mention
the occasional pew pew when the situation calls for it.

Fighter will give you a pinch of hate, but the meat of
the aggro holding can be done via earth and gear.
(claw+circle of hatred is usually enough for me)
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UPDATE:

Unbreakable Stance 30PRR
Twists 35
DoSI 10
Earth3 12
Bear Cloak 9
Planar prowess 15

=111 ~ 44% damage reduction

PLUS DR10 -EPIC

PLUS Shadowfade

PLUS A lil bit of dodge

PLUS a lil bit of AC

PLUS Ghostly

PLUS Earth Sunsoul Proc for 25% dmg reduction.

That really ain't bad.
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TANKING GEAR:  (spitballing here); Other ideas?


Head:??  +8 Cha? Incite item?
Neck: ToD Shintao
Trinket: Planar Focus Prowess
Goggles: Shroud 45 HPS
Armor:  Sunsoul
Belt:    Sunsoul
Wrist:  Sunsoul
Cloak: Adamantine Bear
Gloves:PDK 30% hAMP
Ring1: Kyoshos+ holy burst
Ring2: Circle of Hatred?
Boots: Falling Snow?



Gives me:

Armor Bonus +9
Reinforced Fists
Resistance +6
Enhanced Ki +1

Constitution +7
Insightful Wisdom +2
Concentration +15

Wisdom +7
Insightful Constitution +2
Superior Parrying

Strength +7
Insightful Constitution +2
Healing Amplification - 30%

Insightful Strength +3
Planar Focus: Prowess (+4 dmg/hit + 15PRR)

Constitution +6
Concentration +15
Shintao Monk

Wisdom +6
Exceptional Strength +1
Shintao Monk

Intimidate +15
Resistance Save +5
Incite +20%
Upgradeable Item (Black Abbot)
Harm charges increase to 5/day. Incite +20% becomes Incite +30%

Striding 30%, Ghostly, Dexterity +8, Insightful Dexterity +3

Sheltering +9
Protection +7
Exceptional Combat Mastery +6
Incite +20%
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Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration.

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Still only sort-of-good.

If the enhancement pass works out like I hope
these types of builds will become viable tanks
again.

(and no EH doesn't count as "tanking")

  
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I couldn't help but notice that you didn't mention having heavy fort.
  

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Epoch wrote on Dec 13th, 2012 at 2:58pm:
I couldn't help but notice that you didn't mention having heavy fort.



In that particular setup it would be min2 goggles. If I ended up using abishai crap, it would be slotted.
  

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Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration.

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Tobril wrote on Dec 13th, 2012 at 10:43am:
Divine sacrifice suppresses your off-hand attack,
ditto for the enhancement smites.





You sure that's still true?

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=252146

That thread makes it sound like it was fixed. No?
  

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Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration.

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Meat-Head wrote on Dec 13th, 2012 at 3:20pm:
You sure that's still true?

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=252146

That thread makes it sound like it was fixed. No?



I don't have a character to test it out anymore
and am doubtful that such an obscure bug would
actually get fixed.

SS when you get divine sacrifice and let us know.


Also, you may want to slot good luck for intim and saves.

Head might need to have a +25% fort of omniscience swap.
(if such thing exists, I know you can get alertness)
  
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Meat-Head wrote on Dec 13th, 2012 at 3:20pm:
You sure that's still true?

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=252146

That thread makes it sound like it was fixed. No?my pally in gmof isn't getting off hand attacks.


It's fucking easy to replicate in gmof, and look for yourself.
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Nevermind. It was a U13 change:

Quote:
Monks and unarmed characters will no longer proc dual wield or double strike attacks when using Trip, Sunder, Stunning Blow, or other special attacks, making them consistent with other classes. Special "monk-only" abilities are unaffected by this change.
  

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Meat-Head wrote on Dec 13th, 2012 at 12:39pm:
UPDATE:

Unbreakable Stance 30PRR
Twists 35
DoSI 10
Earth3 12
Bear Cloak 9
Planar prowess 15

=111 ~ 44% damage reduction

PLUS DR10 -EPIC

PLUS Shadowfade

PLUS A lil bit of dodge

PLUS a lil bit of AC

PLUS Ghostly

PLUS Earth Sunsoul Proc for 25% dmg reduction.

That really ain't bad.


That's less/same damage mitigation than I have on Meathelmet and the EE LOB tore me a new asshole.

it'll be ubber for anything "easy" like EE Chrono or Elite TOD, you're evasion and saves will be nice for keeping Lolth pegged on you in EE CITW, but for something really tough like EE LOB you're be ripped to shreds.

Then again EE LOB isn't really relevant at all at this time.

What's your intimidate?  Asking because modern DPS on-destiny do some much more damage than they used to compared to a tank's threat output.  Holding aggro without intim is very dicey.
  
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Re: Any probs?? (12mnk/6pally/2ftr Pajama DPS/Tank)
Reply #21 - Dec 19th, 2012 at 1:53pm
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Bigjunk wrote on Dec 19th, 2012 at 11:26am:
That's less/same damage mitigation than I have on Meathelmet and the EE LOB tore me a new asshole.

it'll be ubber for anything "easy" like EE Chrono or Elite TOD, you're evasion and saves will be nice for keeping Lolth pegged on you in EE CITW, but for something really tough like EE LOB you're be ripped to shreds.

Then again EE LOB isn't really relevant at all at this time.

What's your intimidate?  Asking because modern DPS on-destiny do some much more damage than they used to compared to a tank's threat output.  Holding aggro without intim is very dicey.




Some good points.

Might be time for UBER melee to start slotting threat reduction in some situations. No?
  

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Re: Any probs?? (12mnk/6pally/2ftr Pajama DPS/Tank)
Reply #22 - Dec 19th, 2012 at 3:32pm
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Meat-Head wrote on Dec 19th, 2012 at 1:53pm:
Some good points.

Might be time for UBER melee to start slotting threat reduction in some situations. No?



Yes, but as tank you have to be the one who is most prepared.

It's easy to have high dps and/or unnecessary threat
and being able to handle those characters is a part of
tanking that needs to be considered.
is not always discussed.
  
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Re: Any probs?? (12mnk/6pally/2ftr Pajama DPS/Tank)
Reply #23 - Dec 19th, 2012 at 3:34pm
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Meat-Head wrote on Dec 19th, 2012 at 1:53pm:
Some good points.

Might be time for UBER melee to start slotting threat reduction in some situations. No?


Yes and no, when you intim to effectively steal the threat somebody has generated it's it really not a bad thing.  You just need to coordinate things and not run with tards.
  
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Re: Any probs?? (12mnk/6pally/2ftr Pajama DPS/Tank)
Reply #24 - Dec 19th, 2012 at 3:56pm
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Tobril wrote on Dec 19th, 2012 at 3:32pm:
Yes, but as tank you have to be the one who is most prepared.

It's easy to have high dps and/or unnecessary threat
and being able to handle those characters is a part of
tanking that needs to be considered.
is not always discussed.


Intimidate and stand against the tide will hold over anything but stuff gets dicey at times.  Ubber melees do a shitload of damage now, you're total threat didn't go up nearly as much.

Intolerant blow is nice, but you only get so many.  In long raids like EE CiTW you really can't rely on it, Intimidate never runs out.

Turbine just really cut the nuts off any "tank" built this isn't wearing armor, has a shield, any swings a bastard sword/dorf-axe.  The cookie-cutter just works so well now, it's to best option.   Glancing blows and 30% double-strike is so good.
  
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