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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Defender gear Feb 16^th, 2013 at 3:19pm	Print Post
	20 fighter stalwart defender legendary dreadnought, twist sense weakness/legendary shield mastery DPS set: Max DPS for EH or easier. Prioritize DPS stuff over survivability stuff. Try to optimize for easy swapping into EE set/tanking set. The more I look at the numbers, the more convinced I am that T3 Nightmare + T3 Alc Tower is ahead of eAGA in most situations for a dps-defender build (which matches anecdotal experience). Hard to figure out real numbers for S&B though, since I haven't seen anyone do Vanshilar-level work on S&B attack speed. Harder yet to compare to 2-handed. I am not going to realistically acquire eSOS (which I would use for DPS if I had it), if you think there is a reasonably attainable 2-hander that's better DPS than eAGA let me know. Missing: +15 intim (wish you could slot +skill, at ~55 without) 30% hamp (sucks, but would rather have grasps) Ring of the Stalker is kind of weak, only really giving Manslayer and 2 slots, but can't find anything tasty to replace it with.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Defender gear Reply #1 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 10:12am	Print Post
	Why are you equipping gloves with diversion on a tank?


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Defender gear Reply #2 - Feb 20^th, 2013 at 10:21am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 10:12am: Why are you equipping gloves with diversion on a tank? Because while the build can tank when needed, it is not a "tank" and this is not a tanking set. I don't like the Diversion - it's usually better for me to have aggro than other people - but for +2 profane str and +10 seeker I'll deal.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Defender gear Reply #3 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 4:14pm	Print Post
	I'm not sure where to start with this gear set. I like Epic Elite Bastion over the Alchem Shield. That shield is more about DPS than it is about Tanking or defensive. I'd go with EE Treads over surefooted boots. I'd go with Tier 3 Spare hand over the GS Belt. White armor for tanking. Black is all DPS. I see no healing amp items on this build at all. That's unsat for any heavy melee build, but doubly or triply so for a tank. Especially when using Nightmare. My tank gets back 6 HP per swing off the vamprism. With haste and haste boost on, he barely ever needs a heal, except in raids or large mob EE content. I can't imagine having a melee build of any sort that doesn't at least try to squeeze in one 20 or 30% amp item. Get some bracers or something (the steady handed attack bonus doesnt stack anyways) or dump that stalker ring (most of what it does is redundant or useless on a tanky fighter) for a ToD ring with 20% amp on it. The ghost waking cloak is crap for this build. You can slot resistance. You already have ghostly. The charisma is worthless. I'd go jeweled cloak for slots and the spell absorption and the resists or an HP GS cloak that got moved from the belt. Also, did I miss the Intimidate gear? If you ask for a defender gear set, that's typically a tank build. You are planning to hold aggro solely on threat alone? That gear list looks like a Kensai/barb gear set (minus the shield/nightmare and the heavy armor vs. medium). Not a defender/tank gear set. There's no point in being in defender if you are just going to play it like a barb/kensai. It's taking too much DPS off the table and not putting anything back on from a survivablilty standpoint. You are not on the left side of the road or the right side. You are in the middle. Do we really need Mr. Myagi to tell us where that leads?


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Defender gear Reply #4 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 6:58pm	Print Post
	You are as good at reading posts as ever, Asheras. Also good at noticing posts are a month old. Also, I can tell you know a lot about S&B builds. If you want to see my evolved EE set and tanking set, they've been posted to the DDO forum.
	« Last Edit: Mar 25^th, 2013 at 6:59pm by cdr »

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Defender gear Reply #5 - Mar 25^th, 2013 at 10:38pm	Print Post
	Cool. I hope its a good deal better than that pile of shit you started with.


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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Defender gear Reply #6 - Mar 26^th, 2013 at 5:56am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Feb 20^th, 2013 at 10:12am: Why are you equipping gloves with diversion on a tank? Wouldn't it be glorious if there wasn't - 20 threat ? Something like subtle backstabbing which could be turned on/off depending on situation.


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Gunga Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline Fuck You. Posts: 9525 Location: New Jersey Joined: Aug 14^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Defender gear Reply #7 - Mar 27^th, 2013 at 8:15pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Feb 16^th, 2013 at 3:19pm: Max DPS for EH or easier. Homo.

	Smrti wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2013 at 3:00pm: Gunga is the best.
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