NEWSFLASH:

At lvl 13 the pally was fucking amazeballs! 10k stars, Manyshot, Touch of Death, Improved Evasion, huge ass saves and great overall DPS!

Too bad it's gonna go downhill from now since I need to take more than 2 pally levels 

And 3 more monk and 4 more ranger levels would be perfect 

Isn't this thread title an oxymoron?

Slug wrote on Apr 16^th, 2013 at 10:47am:

No.

Quote:

Yes.

Trying a Pally 16/fighter 2/Monk 2 Human TWFing toon next.  I TR'd my main into this build, I plan on taking it all the way to 25 to test the viability.  If it sucks the PL is still worth it.

HoTD for max hjealing amp and as much smiting DS/DM as the APs will allow.  Should have enough feats to fit in all the healing stuff I want as well as overwhelming critical, whole TWFing line, and a few more.

The toon has max EDs already so I'll be able to try everything.  Probably stick with FoTW most of the time for the synergy between adrenaline.

Oh who am I kidding, it'll probably be terrible.

Liked this template on my last pally past life, balance between melee and ranged. Stunning Fist and Unbalancing Strike are most used, Manypew when you need burst of damage. Feel free to spit all over the build.

The 666 Pally

Dorf

6mnk/6rgr/6pal
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16 STR <- lvlups here
15 DEX (+4 tome)
16 CON
08 INT
16 WIS
08 CHA

1 Rgr, 2-3 Mnk, 4-8 Rgr, 9-12 Mnk, 13-Pal

Feats:
01: Power Attack
02: Stunning Fist
03: Point Blank Shot, Zen Archery
06: Dodge (PL: Monk)
09: IC: Ranged
12: Master of Forms, 10k Stars
15: Improved Precise Shot
18: Greater Two Weapon Fighting

rgr free: BS, RS, TWF, PS, Manyshot, ITWF

Enhancements (72)

Dorf (9)
Core: 6
Tactics: 3

Ninja Spy (28)
Core: 3
Sneak Attack: 8
Acrobatic: 3
Fists of Iron: 2
Agility: 3
Subtlety: 1*
Wisdom: 2
No Mercy: 6

Shintao (11)
Core: 3
Deft Strikes: 6
Unbalancing Strikes: 2

Arcane Archer (23)
Core: 3
Conjure Arrows: 2
Energy of the Wild: 3
Force Arrows: 6
Wisdom: 2
Terror Arrows: 4
Paralyzing Arrows: 1
Banishing Arrows: 1
Smiting Arrows: 1

Deepwood Stalker (1)
Core: 1

Eh, 10K stars is ok... 3 arrows, even 2, is a lot better than 1.

The problem is that bows kinda suck for DPS when you're not Manyshotting, and full Manyshot doesn't kick in until level 16. Using bows in heroics outside of Manyshot is questionable. With AA paralyzing imbues and an alch earth bow, bows are great CC if you're running in full groups I suppose, but you want DPS not CC when full on zerging.

And ABF was saying only to use bow when Manyshot was up anyway, but it's still a subpar TR build to include 10Ks and even Manyshot. Just throw pally in the pastlifenmo if you want a quick TR.

Yeah, I caught that the instant after I posted it, but the board is messed up lately and I can't edit half my posts. Even the "update session" button is gone.

Relogging doesn't fix it, and it's only posts on certain boards (like this one). Wonder whether Strake didn't go messing with the boards on a drunken bender...

For a stick build I'd definately go for 5rog and not without Breeze. Slug swears it's the best thing ever since sliced bread.

Pally enchanctments I really don't see anything worth investing, that monk or ranger doesn't have better. Saves might be nice but i can think of 4 quests that I need high saves for: Crucible swim, Sane Assylum trapped hallway, Monestary spiked ceiling, ETK end fight. For all of those I can drink a few pots, go water stance, put on +10 reflex robe and be done with it.

6 ranger is free Manyshot and ITWF, and since I'm going with Dorf, extra feats are nice.

Another thing is Master Earth which makes mobs scream rape on crits. And crits with Manyshot+Unwavering Ardency are plentiful. Usual numbers are 300s... If you don't have Ardency the Silver Lame bow will do.

I'll even add up a bit:
Sane Assylum = Nightshield or Shield clicky for when you get through trap or you'll get raped by MM
ETK end fight = over the last 20+ lives bumrushing the Kobold in full retard DPS mode, cornering him by the chests and ranging the Djinn after has proven the most successfull strategy
Crucible swim = 300 HP and Silver flame pots even on toon with no evasion is more than enough if you're being careful. On an evasion toon if you can't reach 40 reflex by lvl 15 with a few pots and 3 gearswaps you need to delete the toon.

and thanks for Monestary tip 

The pulling strategy is somewhat risky as the bastard can whitedot. Also we stopped using it once they changed the Living Meteors to be able to move into the hallway, as the rock used to be the safe spot beforehand.
Also, we called it ReEnter the Kobold when I started playing   

My main is on a paladin life atm, and I have to say it is quite fun.....not best DPS, but I'm super tough, have tons of self healing, tons of defense, with decent damage still.

It's pretty awesome