I'm not against the same build again by the way. Just looking for something that might get the job done faster or be more entertaining.

Ok, that's pretty sexy Druids in form get vampiric from the wraps right?

I would listen to munk if you want fast leveling.

Yeah, really is about the mass damage. I've been getting it this life from whirlwind but I'd imagine between druid spells and both cleaves that druid build would be far more effective at mass damage. I should have pretty much everything I need gear-wise as well so should be easy to start up.

Now just need to cap this one

you're reading correctly.

rather than going kensai and getting weapon spec, i pick up quicken and maximise.

stalwart 1 > kensai 1 for this.

I normally go monk and stay centered, picking up the feats (dodge [pre req for stalwart] and stunning fist) and wear the jidz tet ka + fire till i get leviks.

Yeah, I wondered where you were picking up the potency/lores. Blue dragon makes a lot of sense. Where do you slot it though once you go into the DT robes?

I'm gonna have to get farming for the torc or else farm a lot of shroud. I could see going without the torc or the hp con-opp goggles but not both. Right now I have earthgrab hp boots, sp cha air guard cloak, and Tharne's goggles. Remaking the boots as con-opp would work but is kind of expensive for a melee-focused toon. Landing the Torc would definitely solve that.

Ahh, got ya. I've got the DT already but haven't used them this life either because I've grown to enjoy the frozen tunic. Actually wondering a bit about using that over the blue dragon as well. Would work well with ice/sleet storm but would still have to slot stuff for wall of fire and heals.

Does the proc from the tunic work the same with wolf form attacks as it does with hand-to-hand?

You could wear Mindfury Symbiote for lore and get your XP from Mantle, but that would mean losing Ghostly on cloak. I wouldn't do it. You may be fine with the cold boost from frozen tunic alone, I dunno druids.

Darkrok wrote on Apr 22^nd, 2013 at 1:12am:


i've started doing 7 or 9 druid for all my non pally melee past lives.

Thus the robes + con op gear.

Ok, took at look at the monk version in the builder. It looks like Fighter1 is better put off for level 6 since you can take GCleave for the first time then (1 monk = 0 BAB, 4 druid = 3 BAB, 1 Fighter = 1 BAB for a total of 4). The feats are a lot tighter than I'd expected - especially the level-based feats since we're backloading the Natural Fighting feats and we have to fit Quicken/Maximize on to level-based feats as well.

I love having the dual stuns - they've been outstanding on my current 9 monk/9 fighter/2 arti life - but I don't sweat fitting those in until later. I could even see swapping the level 13 and 15 feats to get Stunning Blow at 13 and holding off on the Improved Crit...my only hesitation is that the crit profile for Winter Wolf is actually decent so it might be worth taking that feat first.

Not sure which skills make sense. With only 2 monk levels not sure how much value the ki has - ain't nobody got time for t1 strike spamming. Given that I doubt I'd be scroll-healing often if at all that seems to make concentration less important. UMD's iffy on value - I love it but I don't love all the items swaps that go into it. If I'm not mistaken Bluff is really good on this character because some of the wolf attacks trigger a bluff check. What skills are important here?

Other than that just look it over and let me know if it makes sense. Seems to get all the nice toys right around the right time. Both stuns by 15, possibly 13...one stun at 12 right when the vampiric stonedust are available, GClv at the lowest possible level, Max/Quicken fit in the only place they can, etc.

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Level 20 Lawful Neutral Half-Elf Male
(9 Fighter \ 2 Monk \ 9 Druid)
Hit Points: 300
Spell Points: 532
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 13
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[B][U]Level 8 (Druid)[/U][/B]
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[B][U]Level 11 (Druid)[/U][/B]


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Looks mostly solid.

Personally I think you'll get more mileage from wisdom than str : more sp, better spell dc's and I prefer stunning fist to stunning blow.

My stat layout is normally 16/11/16/8/17/8, (all with +3, 4 or 5 tomes)  I put level ups in wisdom too.  I'm a little out of touch with normal people though, when I started using this template I already had 3: barb, pally, fighter, monk lives.

The true Seeing + sneak attack from tharnes is a good mix, I'd probably go cloak in your shoes.

I would, self healing is good enough, who cares.