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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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Whatever you have in boots, gloves, etc is almost certainly worse than 10% incorporeal.
being incorporeal kind of defeats the purpose of con op + torc though doesn't it.
so no, it's not worse.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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the thought kind of just struck me (i already had good wraps), greensteel lit 2 kama and a greensteel con op weapon could be pretty damn good.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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I run conopp+torc on anything with mana, but I also run Ghostly+Blur and often Displace unless it's something like PM or cleric with radiantII. If you don't get hit, you don't have to spend mana and time healing yourself. Maybe it's different with druids with your healing dots, never played with it.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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Unfortunately no wretched twilight and no level 16 mabar cloak so no ghostly for me. I'll miss having that extra miss chance next life but I don't see me getting flagged for abbot and farming it before I TR this time around. I've got plenty of ways to get ghostly at cap (have a level 20 mabar cloak, epic ring of the stalker, etc) but not while leveling.
Looking like I'll have to do this first life sans con-opp/torc. Just haven't been running shrouds (doing mostly FoT/CitW on my capped guy for comm's) and don't have the mats for any items. I think you're dead on about the lit2+con-opp kamas though. Would probably beat anything you could get in handwraps given the level split and the way wolf form works. I'll have to get farming on my capped toon for this toon's next life. I can deal with the earthgrab hp boots + air guard cloak - the build's good enough that even w/o con-opp I should be able to roll over things.
I'll have to play with the numbers to see if I can get both stuns working well wis-based. Looking at the druid wolf-form spells closer though I can definitely see where wisdom would trump strength there. I'll just have to check and see if Stunning Blow will still be worth it.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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Ideally you would have Cloak of Invisibility starting level 9, but the heroic Ghost-Waking Cloak also has Ghostly. The HN version is trivial to acquire.
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Ah, the wiki didn't list either of those on the ghostly page. Don't think I want to hold off long enough to redo the greensteel items I have but I'd definitely consider building around those if I stick with this build multiple lives. The level 14 ghost waking is especially strong since it covers enough resist to get by and maxes out charisma for pre-20 items.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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Found a problem with the kamas...can't do kamas and do stunning fist. Oh well, handwraps'll do just fine, especially now that I got my crafter up to vampiric shards now.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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Not a big fan of vampiric shards, not since they raised the ML of them way up early on. If you want vampirism you're better off with Vampiric Stonedust.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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Darkrok wrote
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Found a problem with the kamas...can't do kamas and do stunning fist.
you can in wolf form.
I can't believe i never thought to try this out sooner.
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Wow...seriously, wolf form overrides the requirement for no weapons for stunning fist? That's going to force some serious gear thought now. Probably not the first life since I'm kinda strapped and trying to just figure out a way to fit in a con-opp item but that's some serious craziness available there. I might have to bust out this build for some pl's on my caster toon - I've got con-opp kama's built already for both charisma +9 and int +9, both with +6 str on them to boot. I knew making those as kama's would pay off eventually
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That's because wolf form is unarmed damage, but still keeps your weapon properties.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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Thinking this may have to be a 'cap ED's' life based on the time-frame for the update (I really don't want to be capping ED's when they go to level 28 max). Just looking at the build it looks like it would hold up really well running EH's and could probably even muddle through some EE's solo but just wanted to ask whether you've tried it out at 25 and whether it worked well for you.
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Well, I'm started. Level 1 and 2 down in a few minutes tonight. Didn't bother gearing up for it...looking forward to the goodies at 4/5.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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Darkrok wrote
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Just looking at the build it looks like it would hold up really well running EH's and could probably even muddle through some EE's solo but just wanted to ask whether you've tried it out at 25 and whether it worked well for you.
It depends on what the other 9x was. with ranger i felt a bit lacking. With rogue and fighter it was pretty good.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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Oh, it would be this life so it's the fighter one.
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And that's a wrap for tonight at level 5. Now it gets stupid easy for awhile
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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Level 11 now. I found that for the delera's levels Bear form is far more effective than Wolf. Getting slash/bludgeoning from Bear, tossing on a ghost touch item like sun flasks, and adding in good fang means that you hit everything in Delera's for full damage without swapping weapons. I haven't had Winter Wolf long enough to test but I'm almost thinking Bear would still trump Winter Wolf on undead stuff (especially the skele's).
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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First of all, holding 12 now and rolling. This build is really outstanding!
Had a question that will help make some gear/enhancement choices - is Reaving Roar effected by gear or enhancements either one? At least through level 10 epics Reaving Roar is what makes things so easy. Between that and the cleaves I almost feel like Ice Storm is superfluous.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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nothing will boost your reaving roar damage.
making enemies susceptible to extra damage will work though. (ie, mass hold, stun etc.)
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That's kind of what I figured but wanted to make sure. No reason to go all-out on lightning/sonic then.
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On the comments about a kama I'm thinking that LitII is obvious for the first one. For a second I'm thinking we might want to go either +6str/20%/30%amp con-opp or 10%/20%/30%amp raise dead clicky/greater disruption. I'd lean toward the +6str for leveling just because I have a hard time fitting in +6 str all the time but I could see the argument for the cheaper one with the better healing amp.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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i've made,
lit II
str/20/30 conop
at 18, i replaced the lit II with an air/air kama.
You'll notice that only defensive procs / abilities apply for your off hand animal form weapon.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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Man, can't wait to see a life with those kama's in the setup. This build already feels like easy-mode...adding LitII to the mix is just unfair.
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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Just took 15...close to holding 16. TR's don't normally go this fast for me...this is just crazy easy.
Just got done with a Vol zerg with an all TR group. Highlight of the night was the one run where misadventure was the top killer in the quest.
I don't think it's going to be as strong at cap...might even go with Fatal Harrier later on as my main stance...but for getting to cap there really isn't anything quite like Reaving Roar
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Re: Looking for a build for my last fighter life
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Darkrok wrote
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I don't think it's going to be as strong at cap...might even go with Fatal Harrier later on as my main stance...but for getting to cap there really isn't anything quite like Reaving Roar
I generally switch at 25 aswell.
I'm playing round with a human version this life, since I'm mostly soloing I wanted the ddoor dragon mark. It's working out really well, I'm not really noticing the healing amp loss with my new Kama's
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