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Re: Pastlifenmo Melee template
Reply #75 - Dec 12th, 2013 at 4:18pm
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Esmarelda wrote on Dec 12th, 2013 at 12:14pm:
You are able to run through elite traps and not get chopped into pieces?


There's a clicky in natures warrior that reduces physical damage by 40% for 8seconds.

I use that for the ceiling in spikes in monastery, and the floor trap in litany of the dead. 

Even then only as a precaution when I'm drunk.  Traps to me are an ingame tool that let me know who to drop at the end of a quest.
  

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Re: Pastlifenmo Melee template
Reply #76 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 3:34am
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Most can be avoided with a jump, no timing involved.
  

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Even against donuts.
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Re: Pastlifenmo Melee template
Reply #77 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 3:40am
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What Epoch said. Use jump and you don't need evasion. It's that fucking simple.
  

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Reply #78 - Dec 13th, 2013 at 7:30pm
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or y'know pike in someone's backpack, that is also an option if you are grouping.
  

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Reply #79 - Dec 14th, 2013 at 10:31am
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kierg10 wrote on Dec 13th, 2013 at 7:30pm:
or y'know pike in someone's backpack, that is also an option if you are grouping.


Now you know how I got to 28.  Cheesy

Seriously though, the build looks nice, I might try it, given recent um, changes.
  
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Reply #80 - Dec 22nd, 2013 at 8:16pm
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Reply #81 - Dec 23rd, 2013 at 11:19am
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Subtle, right...
  
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Reply #82 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 6:55pm
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Probably a dumb question.  Does this build work with rapiers?
  

OnePercenter wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 5:32pm:
I agree with 0bama...


OnePercenter wrote on Feb 9th, 2015 at 8:18am:
Not saying that others weren't better, just that quantity does not always indicate quality...  I mean, look at my post count...
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Re: Pastlifenmo Melee template
Reply #83 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 7:19pm
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Not if you want to remain centered.
  

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Reply #84 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 8:25pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Jan 14th, 2014 at 7:19pm:
Not if you want to remain centered.


Which is the question.  How important is remaining centered to this build?  I have lots of GS weapons, but no kamas.  Primarily rapiers.  If I run uncentered, will the build not be worth it?
  

OnePercenter wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 5:32pm:
I agree with 0bama...


OnePercenter wrote on Feb 9th, 2015 at 8:18am:
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Reply #85 - Jan 14th, 2014 at 8:44pm
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you won't have any ki for stunning fist.
  
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Re: Pastlifenmo Melee template
Reply #86 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:11am
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No stunning fist & no stances.

Pretty important imo.

As I mentioned in the op, shortswords are a better option than kamas now.

If you're happy to be uncentered, id consider 2 fighter for the feats + hasteboost. Personally id stick with monk for evasion and quick recall.

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Re: Pastlifenmo Melee template
Reply #87 - Jan 15th, 2014 at 6:33pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Jan 15th, 2014 at 2:11am:
No stunning fist & no stances.  Pretty important imo.

As I mentioned in the op, shortswords are a better option than kamas now.

If you're happy to be uncentered, id consider 2 fighter for the feats + hasteboost. Personally id stick with monk for evasion and quick recall.


Thanks.  If that's all I lose, I think I'd consider one of two options.

First, stick with the monk levels, ditch the Dragonmark for Combat Expertise and replace Stunning Fist with Improved Trip (which has CE has a pre-req).

Alternatively, craft some Shortswords.
  

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I agree with 0bama...


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Re: Pastlifenmo Melee template
Reply #88 - Feb 11th, 2014 at 7:02pm
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So twf working in wolf form is still not fixed? Thought some people said Turbine would have fixed that.

Even without twf in my last life (because I thought it would be fixed) I liked the damage output of a similar build. If I would have had +80-100% offhand attacks... that would have been a bit over kill I guess. Cheesy
  
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Re: Pastlifenmo Melee template
Reply #89 - Feb 11th, 2014 at 11:54pm
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It's still working as of today.
  

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Re: Pastlifenmo Melee template
Reply #90 - Feb 12th, 2014 at 8:14am
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Then I should think about changing my build to get the ranger PL and switch to 9 druid Cheesy
  
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Re: Pastlifenmo Melee template
Reply #91 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 5:53pm
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Slight Variation I think is best for a druid pastlife.

Level 1 (Druid 1)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Cleave

Level 2 (Druid 2)
Feat: (Druid Bonus) Wolf Form
Level 3 (Druid 3)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Passage
Level 4 (Monk 1)
Ability Raise: Str
Feat: (Monk Bonus) TWF
Level 5 (Druid 4)
Level 6 (Monk 2)

Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist

Level 7 (Druid 5)
Level 8 (Druid 6)

Ability Raise: Str
Level 9 (Druid 7)
Feat: (Selected) ITWF
Level 10 (Druid 8)
Feat: (Druid Bonus) Winter Wolf
Level 11 (Druid 9)
Level 12 (Fighter 1)

Ability Raise: Str
Feat: (Selected) Natural Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons

Lvl 13 (Fighter 2)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Lvl 14 (Fighter 3)
Lvl 15 (Fighter 4)

Feat: (Selected) Natural Fighting
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) GTWF

Lvl 16 (Monk 3)
Ability Raise: Str
Lvl 17 (Monk 4)
Lvl 18 (Druid 10)

Feat: (Selected) Natural fighting
Lvl 19 (Druid 11)
Lvl 20 (Druid 12)

Ability Raise: Str


Reasoning As to why I went 4fighter/4monk instead of 6monk:

1. I still need to frontload the druid levels for Natural fighting.
2. I don't place a lot of weight in monk stances in heroic content (I'm most likely going to be in fire stance with jidz tet ka bracers)
3. I chose 4monk instead of 6fighter at 18, because monk nets me 2% dodge, and opens up the Sting of the ninja enhancment, mobs have just enough hp by now for it to be worthwhile imo.
4. I don't take 19/20
  

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Reply #92 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 11:37pm
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Very solid build, what do you think about wiz or sorc template builds?
  
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Reply #93 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 4:09am
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tekel bayi wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 11:37pm:
Very solid build, what do you think about wiz or sorc template builds?


They're superior if you're willing to shell out for +5 hearts.
  

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Reply #94 - Mar 27th, 2014 at 4:12pm
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The feat progression in the original post, specifically IC:B and GTWF cannot be taken that early unless your 'pastlife' levels are ranger, barb or fighter. Due to the BAB prerequisites.


Improved Critical needs a BAB of 8, GTWF needs a BAB of 11, but 2 monk gives you +1 and 9 druid gives you +6, most of the other classes will give you +0 with just one level, so...
  
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Reply #95 - Mar 27th, 2014 at 4:22pm
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That's the problem with templates, it's pretty easy though, take natural fighting at 12, and bump the other 2 back to 15/18 respectively.

Thanks though I'll make the OP clearer.
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Reply #96 - Apr 1st, 2014 at 5:57am
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On my second life of this now, and it is indeed a kick ass kill-stealing build, even without any druid 'features'. I wondered why someone accused me of 'hax', but wasn't using any lol.

I have the greensteel, cannith challenge gear (ml 13 now, with craftsmanship!). Don't have the lvl 18 gear, though the extra stunning fist DC looks nice.
  
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Reply #97 - Apr 30th, 2014 at 9:22am
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Greetings OP I have a couple of questions about this if I can pick your brains for a few minutes?

1. Starting DEX 15 I assume is for the TWF line so I assume this could be lowered if you have say a +4 or so tome on it and boost up WIS for SP and Stunning Fist DC?

2. You mention about keeping Henshin until lvl 12 then switching to Shintao, what do you pick up in Shintao generally speaking or is it open to user preference.

3. Do you use wraps at all or just stick with the GS stuff?

Thanks!
  
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Reply #98 - Apr 30th, 2014 at 4:42pm
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Greetings OP I have a couple of questions about this if I can pick your brains for a few minutes?

1. Starting DEX 15 I assume is for the TWF line so I assume this could be lowered if you have say a +4 or so tome on it and boost up WIS for SP and Stunning Fist DC?

Notice itwf at level 9? +3 tomes dont take effect till level 11, theres not really enough flexibility with the feat order to start with a lower dex, as you dont have the bab or required class levels for an alternate option at level 9.

2. You mention about keeping Henshin until lvl 12 then switching to Shintao, what do you pick up in Shintao generally speaking or is it open to user preference.

deft strikes, ki shout, fists of iron

3. Do you use wraps at all or just stick with the GS stuff?

ill sometimes switch to tharak wraps at 18 on toons that have them, honestly though, the healing amp con opp kama is hugely useful. There are no heroic wraps that can come clost to competeting with that and a lit 2 or air/air alchemical weapon.


Thanks!


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Re: Pastlifenmo Melee template
Reply #99 - May 2nd, 2014 at 9:27am
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Thanks for the answers man Smiley much appreciated, just need to go farm up some items so I can start using this on my next life for my Completionist project Smiley I will be doing it with shortswords though since that's what you recommended. Quite looking forward to is since I have never played a Druid at all so this should be pretty fun!
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