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  Reply #25 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:37pm  
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Persiflage wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:31pm:
Unlikely that he'd do that to his own box, don'cha think?

Far more plausible that a rival mage has scuppered his plans: I'm thinking Evard's Spiked Tentacles of Forced Intrusion


Well played, sir. Grin
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  Reply #26 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:41pm  
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*bows*

And thank you for restoring my sense of humour  Wink
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stainer wrote on May 16th, 2013 at 9:26am:
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You are an evil human being.


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wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
 
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  Reply #27 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:54pm  
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Otto#s box is way more better than this.  unless your time is worth poo to you

and if it is, why are you buying boxes?

of course if you ain't got otto's then bigbys will have to do you
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  Reply #28 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:27pm  
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ottos:3876500      bigbys:3322300
Thats the xp after 50% pot, ship, voice and vip, ottos id rank 91, bigbys is rank 86. so basicly you can start at lvl18.
Got a first report though saying stone is bugged, took to lvl14, no bonus applied
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  Reply #29 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:56pm  
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From the horse's mouth:

Bonus sources of XP do not stack with the Stone of Experience provided in the Bigby's Handy Box.

EDIT: What was that someone said about a "win"?  Well, I looked up "win" in my etymological dictionary, and it turns out that it's derived from the Latin for "solid kick in the testicles from someone with a smile on their face", so you were right.
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stainer wrote on May 16th, 2013 at 9:26am:
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You are an evil human being.


m4lacka wrote on Mar 29th, 2014 at 7:04am:
wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
 
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  Reply #30 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:02pm  
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  Reply #31 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:03pm  
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Persiflage wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 2:56pm:


Looks like Rest isn't getting that cube after all...
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  Reply #32 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:05pm  
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Well, I can't justify to myself to buy one then.  The xp between 7-15 is abundant and easy to get.
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  Reply #33 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:15pm  
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Persiflage wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:21pm:
Oh yes, that sounds like an enormous amount of fun, right there, particularly for someone who doesn't have a great deal of game time and pretty much has to run solo. The XP you don't have to obtain to get from 7-8 is not remotely comparable to the XP you do have to get at the other end in terms of time spent. 100k at one end is not equal to 100k at the other.


Given that it's going to take twice as long as it did to get to cap after using the new stone while only being 20% cheaper, and given that they're giving you 9 hours of 50% XP instead of 30 hours of 30%, I'd disagree with your definition of "win".

It's only a "win" if you place a low value on your time, and the actions you describe using to make up the difference are only quick and easy if you have a group ready-to-go.

Any volunteers to be the first to check if pots still work with these things? Wink


All 4 of the flaggers are easy duos. You can solo all but fleshmakers, but it takes longer. Better to duo them.

I wasn't saying that 100k on the front was equal to 100k on the end, either. I like the old box better from that perspective.

If they changed the XP bonuses applying then it's gone from win to a total shit bag. I'd rather have 15-20 than 7-15. Or even 18-20.

As far as the XP pots go, who is buying boxes and then using 30% pots when 50%'ers are available? If you are willing to spend 5k TP on a box, you are looking to make the TR as painless as possible and TP are not a barrier. That crowd wants 50%'ers. Not 30%.

I wonder if the stone change affects current otto's boxes.
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  Reply #34 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:39pm  
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Tobril wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:03pm:
Looks like Rest isn't getting that cube after all...


I don't give a shit about the stone I JUST WANT THE RED FUCKING CUBE.
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  Reply #35 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:43pm  
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Asheras wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:15pm:
All 4 of the flaggers are easy duos.  You can solo all but fleshmakers, but it takes longer.



I just finished soloing fleshmakers.

Personally I'd much rather stick with my old stones, and keep running orchard cause I want to, not cause I'll have to.

The 50% pots included is nice, but I've got plenty of em now anyway.
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So you want to know about an exploit?

Or, in case you don't already know, Lastly, if you're truly desperate,
 
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  Reply #36 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:47pm  
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:54pm:
Otto#s box is way more better than this. unless your time is worth poo to you

and if it is, why are you buying boxes?

of course if you ain't got otto's then bigbys will have to do you



If you highly value your time, go volunteer at a soup kitchen, start a local business, tutor a disabled child, save the fucking world.

By very definition of playing a game, you're just mouth-breathing in your mother's basement, in your piss-stained tightie-whities, WASTING FUCKING TIME.


If you enjoy the waste of time, then great, enjoy it. Play the god damned game.
Pretending there's any value at all in paying to skip over an optional activity is just fucktarded mental masturbation.




*Full Disclosure. I bought an Otto's box. I haven't opened it. I thought it might be good to skip over a life I don't enjoy on my way to completionist.... Then I realized that the draw of the game is creating characters in trillions of ways to find something that you enjoy... So then I thought I might use it to quickly double up on a past life to uber-completionist... Which made me realize that I just paid $50 for 1 less inventory space for the next 3 years. Fuck.

**P.S. Sorry, stupid rant. I just remembered that 80% of the board here are worse than Arm-chair-Quarterbacks, because at least they watch the friggen games. A good portion of you are whining on the internet, to people that can't change anything, about a game you don't play, talking about "the value of your time"? Jesus you're all brain-damaged.
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  Reply #37 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:00pm  
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Hi Welcome
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So you want to know about an exploit?

Or, in case you don't already know, Lastly, if you're truly desperate,
 
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  Reply #38 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:11pm  
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Asheras wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:15pm:
All 4 of the flaggers are easy duos. You can solo all but fleshmakers, but it takes longer. Better to duo them.


Not an option for me, unfortunately.  The only guy I know who I can arrange something with in terms of same play-time likes to sniff flowers.  Which in practical terms means that we TR'd a couple of toons about six weeks ago and haven't taken 8th level yet  Wink

Asheras wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:15pm:
If they changed the XP bonuses applying then it's gone from win to a total shit bag. I'd rather have 15-20 than 7-15. Or even 18-20.


It was never a win.  Even with bonuses applying it was "you need twice as much XP, but they're 20% cheaper".  Quite agree on preferring an 18-20 stone than a 7-15 though.

Asheras wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:15pm:
As far as the XP pots go, who is buying boxes and then using 30% pots when 50%'ers are available?


Er...  me?  ONE 50% pot just before I use a stone, remaining duration puts me close enough to 20 that I only use a couple of hours of (much) cheaper 30% pot to take me to my next life, and so on.  One more 30% getting back to 8th level, rinse and repeat.  Lots of 30% left over for running epics on toons that don't have all their destinies yet, or levelling toons back to cap that do.

Asheras wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:15pm:
If you are willing to spend 5k TP on a box, you are looking to make the TR as painless as possible and TP are not a barrier. That crowd wants 50%'ers. Not 30%.


Guess I'm not in that crowd.  I'm a different crowd.

Asheras wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:15pm:
I wonder if the stone change affects current otto's boxes.


It does not, apparently.  Fingers crossed that the Bigby's box flops enough that they'll bring old-style boxes back.  I don't hold out a great deal of hope though; it would seem a bit odd to bring back boostable stones after a decision like this...
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stainer wrote on May 16th, 2013 at 9:26am:
Oh you are good. I will be watching you.


QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5th, 2013 at 11:11am:
You are an evil human being.


m4lacka wrote on Mar 29th, 2014 at 7:04am:
wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
 
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  Reply #39 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:14pm  
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Otto's boxes just went through the roof! I will never buy a Bigby's Box.

And as to running Litany, Monestary etc. I did all that anyways after using an Otto's Box.
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  Reply #40 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:14pm  
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Tobril wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:03pm:
Looks like Rest isn't getting that cube after all...



Better squelch rest then, because it looks like the defense channel is about to become the tantrum channel.
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  Reply #41 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:23pm  
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nm, reading is hard.
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  Reply #42 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:42pm  
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LafoMamone wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:14pm:
Better squelch rest then, because it looks like the defense channel is about to become the tantrum channel.



wat?

I've used two otto XP stones total. I traded for both of them. I really just want the cube the first time, and I used the stone on my FvS. Second time was to get my jugg up to epics where he would be fun. If it came down to it, I would trade for this new box. If anyone buys and sells them, that is. The draw for me isn't the xp stone, its the new color of cube. XP stone would be a nice bonus, but not the primary reason to get a box for me.
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  Reply #43 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:55pm  
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rest wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:42pm:
wat?

I've used two otto XP stones total. I traded for both of them. I really just want the cube the first time, and I used the stone on my FvS. Second time was to get my jugg up to epics where he would be fun. If it came down to it, I would trade for this new box. If anyone buys and sells them, that is. The draw for me isn't the xp stone, its the new color of cube. XP stone would be a nice bonus, but not the primary reason to get a box for me.


I had such high hopes for you. The failed sarcasm check is just a minor obstacle though. We will work it out, babe.
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LafoMamone wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 4:55pm:
I had such high hopes for you. The failed sarcasm check is just a minor obstacle though. We will work it out, babe.


wat?
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  Reply #45 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:10pm  
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Munkenmo wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 3:43pm:
I just finished soloing fleshmakers.

Personally I'd much rather stick with my old stones, and keep running orchard cause I want to, not cause I'll have to.

The 50% pots included is nice, but I've got plenty of em now anyway.


Solo as in "used a hireling to help hit switches" or solo as in "hit all 5 runes by myself"?  That second option is not viable for all players on all builds.
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  Reply #46 - Jul 3rd, 2013 at 8:03pm  
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higgildypiggildy wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 1:54pm:
Otto#s box is way more better than this. unless your time is worth poo to you

and if it is, why are you buying boxes?

of course if you ain't got otto's then bigbys will have to do you


My time is worth much more than poo.  However, I like playing this game, especially TRing.  Okay, I used a stone on a cleric life, but that was a function of hating it versus the value of my time...  If the value of my time was a factor in gaming, I'd buy an account or have my assistant level my less favorite lives during the day.  But what fun is that...
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It is fairly natural to assume that the fair price for the pot is the fair value of the resources I needed to make the pot plus the fair value of my labor.

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Asheras wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:10pm:
Solo as in "used a hireling to help hit switches" or solo as in "hit all 5 runes by myself"? That second option is not viable for all players on all builds.


Whenever I say I solo'd something, the FVS hireling is a given. They are insanely cheaper than pots, Since every life I run is a fighter build with a different class icon, for instance right now I am a rogue.

I need my heals. If I play. Reminds me, my airship amenities probably expired a week ago since the main hasn't been played by anyone.......
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  Reply #48 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:31am  
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Asheras wrote on Jul 3rd, 2013 at 6:10pm:
Solo as in "used a hireling to help hit switches" or solo as in "hit all 5 runes by myself"? That second option is not viable for all players on all builds.


solo as in by myself no hires. monk life.
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  Reply #49 - Jul 4th, 2013 at 4:26am  
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Munkenmo wrote on Jul 4th, 2013 at 12:31am:
solo as in by myself no hires. monk life.


Uh-huh.  I've done it on a monk too, but it was nail-biting (hair-tearing, cursing-the-air-blue) stuff and there are plenty of lives I wouldn't even want to attempt it on.  And it was quite a long time ago when I last solo'd that quest; I'm not sure, but it may have been before air ellies got their knock-you-across-the-map-with-no-save superpowers.

I'm not bothered about skipping Monk lives anyway; I like those.
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stainer wrote on May 16th, 2013 at 9:26am:
Oh you are good. I will be watching you.


QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5th, 2013 at 11:11am:
You are an evil human being.


m4lacka wrote on Mar 29th, 2014 at 7:04am:
wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
 
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