AtomicMew wrote on Jul 20^th, 2013 at 4:19pm:

If I'm going to go for survivability, then the build is going to include 6 Monk and centered weapons for Shadow Veil.  6 Monk is also 6% Dodge which is pretty damned good.

Dodge:
06 Monk 6
08 Item
03 Acrobatic (Ninja Spy)
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17% Dodge without trying.  The Dodge feat along with the U19 itemization can get you close to cap.

If you want to use Celestia, then 12 Ranger/6 Monk/2 Whatever can net you 100% offhand strikes.   IMO, Celestia is not very exciting.   

If you want to use Nightmare, then 8 Fighter/6 Monk/6 Ranger can get you 90% offhand strikes with expanded crit range.  Life Stealing procs on crit hits, so Kensei works really well.

I've been looking at melee/ranged builds and a 4 Arti splash gives you the 4 Hand and a Half enhancements, and several ranged feats.  From there, more ranger seems to yield more benefits.  If you can get to 9 ranger, you get evasion, thus you can drop the monk.  Maybe go with fighter instead to get some feast and bring in the kensai stuff.  Maybe 9 ranger, 9 arti, 2 fighter?  Or 9 ranger/7 Arti/ 4 fighter?

I've been toying around with some smaller Arti splashes to make a BS melee/ranged build.  Not sure yet where the sweet spots are.

Arkat wrote on Jul 22^nd, 2013 at 8:17pm:


I feel llike they fucked pure monks pretty good.  Especially the unarmed ones.  I don't see how a pure unarmed monk maintains enough DPS.  Ninja and Henshin give nothing for unarmed, shintao has become defensive.  Monks feel like a splash class atm.

Carpone wrote on Jul 24^th, 2013 at 7:01pm:

Wait, I must have missed something. What is it about Kensei that allows bastard swords (any weapon?) to be centering for Monks?


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Especially if your Ninja Spy is a H-Elf Rogue Dilletante.

Munkenmo wrote on Jul 24^th, 2013 at 9:55pm:

Ah, one of the new enhancements. That's what I was missing. Thanks.

Carpone wrote on Jul 24^th, 2013 at 7:01pm:


It has an on-crit blindness as well as granting a Greater Sunburst proc to all of your weapons that blinds the target. On vorpal is just that wonderful AOE fireball effect to draw more aggro :/ .

Carpone wrote on Jul 25^th, 2013 at 8:28am:


It's my triple completionist toon.  rejuv cucoon and/or stepping away long enough to bust out a heal scroll then getting back in the action.

I'll concede 12/8 probably is probably more of an ehard (shudder) build, but i'm gunna have an attempt at making it work.

Improved evasion is right there with abundant step for me, my monk currently only has a 26 standing (in gear) reflex save.

AtomicMew wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:48am:


Traps, buffs, umd, longer clickies, more sp all the nice things that a jugg will net you that make it a completely different but still worthwhile build.

AtomicMew wrote on Jul 26^th, 2013 at 3:48am:

I'm TR'ing my Juggernaut into something like I outlined once I can evaluate the latest round of enhancement changes. 

I think the 6 monk is for the dodge. AFAICT, 1 (maybe 2, didn't check with less than 2) monk will let you into ninja spy or any of the monk trees. Just not the base line stuff which requires certain breakpoints in level, much like old enhancements (1/6/12/20).


Totally unrelated to the thread, I was dicking around with 12 fighter/5 druid/3 monk using axe of adaxus in earth stance. If I had some actual gear, I might be able to make it work. Nice thing about the way kensai is looking to be set up, you take enhancements based on axes or heavy swords or ranged or whatever, not exact weapon types. Much more flexible than it is now. Still requires the specialization, focus and greater versions of the damage type (slashing/piercing etc) but fighters get a shit ton of feats.

Related to the thread, I'm still at a loss for what to turn my jugg into. He has a bunch of the CITW weapons (no cleaver, because fuck me, right?) and enough comms to unlock many of them fully. 2x nightmares, 2x rapiers, 2x daggers, 1x short sword, the staff and the falchion (i think). He might just wait in the wings for a bit, but who knows.

Yeah, my main has 2 nightmares and pinion, but i'm not fully upgraded and I barely run anything anymore.

I'd just really like to keep the fighter/ranger mix but improve the survivability.

Rest, gimme your comms

rest wrote on Aug 1^st, 2013 at 1:50pm:


Can I haz some comms?