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Sergod Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1110 Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 18^th, 2009 Gender:	Shiradi Wizard Build Discussion Sep 3^rd, 2013 at 6:20pm	Print Post
	So upon returning I am tryiung to figure out which build I think is the best for Shiradi Wiz. I am leaning towards to 14wiz/4fvs/2monk and am currently 16/2/2 trying it out. I see 14/4/2 as superior to 16/2/2 in every way in my mind. Any input or ideas?


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rest One Man Wolfpack Offline Posts: 7223 Joined: Aug 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wizard Build Discussion Reply #1 - Sep 3^rd, 2013 at 8:32pm	Print Post
	Did you ever answer in the other thread why you went with that particular split? I'm too lazy to try hard so I'll be 18sorc/2fvs. Also I am afraid of change and weird build splits.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Shiradi Wizard Build Discussion Reply #2 - Sep 3^rd, 2013 at 9:02pm	Print Post
	16/2/2 is +1 feat, +2 non-force caster level, +3 L8 spells, +1 L7 spell, +HP from enh points. 14/2/2 is +1 force caster level, +spellpower/crit from enh. I'll be sticking with 16/2/2. - Don't like cutting a feat. - I use Otto's and PWS constantly, and BDB is situationally important - not sure how I'd kill eRayium without it. - Cutting HP would mean dying more. Sergod is blowing 10AP on +1 int instead of 55 HP in 16/2/2 already though. Sergod likes seeing big numbers, I like not dying. 2 fvs was an obvious addition to the 18w/2m, it's pretty hard IMO to make a case for 4 fvs. Sorc seems to have higher DPS than wiz, but is always sacrificing something - you lose some combination of saves/evasion/spells/SLAs, and of course feats. The 1K extra mana used to be the draw with sorc, but it's near irrelevant now with Just Rewards.


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Sergod Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1110 Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 18^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wizard Build Discussion Reply #3 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:40pm	Print Post
	Pro 4% more crit, a little more spellpower, and +1 CL on force spells (another missile on chain missile) Gain HP Con Lose Ottos and BDB Lose a feat -2 CL on non force spells (scorching ray?) I really don't see how 14/4/2 isn't a no brainer. I don't "lose" any hp by going 14/4/2. I gain HP. I could take the HP enh as 16/2/2 or 14/4/2. They don't go away. I like not dying also. Don't have an issue with it.
	« Last Edit: Sep 4^th, 2013 at 7:41pm by Sergod »

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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wizard Build Discussion Reply #4 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:03pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2013 at 9:02pm: - I use Otto's and PWS constantly, and BDB is situationally important - not sure how I'd kill eRayium without it. How is eRayium relevent when the level cap is 28?� The gear from Sands is obsolete.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: Shiradi Wizard Build Discussion Reply #5 - Sep 4^th, 2013 at 11:18pm	Print Post
	Carpone wrote on Sep 4^th, 2013 at 9:03pm: How is eRayium relevent when the level cap is 28?� The gear from Sands is obsolete. It's part of my farming rotation, albeit in the later part where I don't often get to it. I'm only 150K or so from cap at this point, but I have a ton of farming characters to bring up yet. The point is you lose a decent bit of flexibility if you don't get L8 spells, unlike dropping L9s. MM doesn't kill everything, unfortunately. Sergod will do anything for 0.01% more DPS and that's fine. I balance DPS against other things. Just Shiradis have effectively infinite mana, I'll take any DPS that's easy but I'm not sacrificing too much since things will die eventually anyway.
	« Last Edit: Sep 4^th, 2013 at 11:21pm by cdr »

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Sergod Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1110 Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 18^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wizard Build Discussion Reply #6 - Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:28pm	Print Post
	What is your opinion on 14/4/2 vs 16/2/2 carpone?


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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wizard Build Discussion Reply #7 - Sep 14^th, 2013 at 10:32am	Print Post
	Sergod wrote on Sep 5^th, 2013 at 7:28pm: What is your opinion on 14/4/2 vs 16/2/2 carpone? After testing it on Lamannia, I prefer 4 FvS levels.� Black Dragon Bolt and Otto's Irresistable are not compelling reasons with my playstyle. The bonus feat lost at 15 isn't missed either.


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Sergod Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1110 Location: Richmond, VA Joined: Aug 18^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Shiradi Wizard Build Discussion Reply #8 - Sep 14^th, 2013 at 11:43pm	Print Post
	Ya i am running 14/4/2. the crit chance is nasty.


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