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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	EE Cleric? Sep 21^st, 2013 at 11:24am	Print Post
	I want a build for my main-- who has always been cleric-based. I'm open to anything. But I want to be able to solo or shortman EEs. Is caster cleric even viable? I assume melee would either be unarmed, staff, eSoS, or maybe even ranged-based. Thoughts?

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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #1 - Sep 21^st, 2013 at 12:23pm	Print Post
	The divine types on Sarlona that don't want to be just healbots seem to go ranged. Dunno how soloable they are, but they do contribute pretty decent DPS. Not sure any divine is soloable after they nerfed trees, except for maybe those SLA builds that take 2 minutes to kill each mob.


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #2 - Sep 21^st, 2013 at 12:51pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Sep 21^st, 2013 at 12:23pm: The divine types on Sarlona that don't want to be just healbots seem to go ranged. Dunno how soloable they are, but they do contribute pretty decent DPS. Not sure any divine is soloable after they nerfed trees, except for maybe those SLA builds that take 2 minutes to kill each mob. I absolutely have considered a Clonkcher. Hmm...

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #3 - Sep 21^st, 2013 at 4:47pm	Print Post
	Ok, here are the main approaches I see: 1. Clonkcher: If you stick with 17+ cleric, you're short feats. 1Emp heal 2Max 3quicken 4Rapid shot 5Manyshot 6Point Black 7Precise h1Improved Precise m1Zen Archery M210k Stars lvl 21Imp Crit Ranged Leaves you feats for lvl 23 & 27. Can't get perfect stance. But coudl get grandmaster for +1 crit Crap Reflex No Improved Evasion APS will be tight No move speed bonus Dodge may be weakish ---------------------- Unarmed works ok. Stun would be great. Not the best in big groups of mobs. -------------------------- Dual Nightmares? Could use heavy armor and focus on PRR. Could do O.Crit Might even be able to leverage negs+cleaves for awesome implosions/instakills (did this on a clonk with gravewraps. Works well with slay living actually) Reflex = lol -------------------------------- Sireth blitz-based. Some guy on forums says he rolls this way and it works in EE. Thoughts?
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	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Epoch Alaskan Ice Hole Offline Epochalypse Posts: 10377 Location: Frozen Tundra Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #4 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 1:54am	Print Post
	If you are going to rip off someone elses EE build, make sure you have the same gear to make it work. Otherwise, you will suck at mimicking their shittastic build.

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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #5 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 3:09am	Print Post
	Meat-Head wrote on Sep 21^st, 2013 at 4:47pm: Ok, here are the main approaches I see: 1. Clonkcher: If you stick with 17+ cleric, you're short feats. 1Emp heal 2Max 3quicken 4Rapid shot 5Manyshot 6Point Black 7Precise h1Improved Precise m1Zen Archery M210k Stars lvl 21Imp Crit Ranged Leaves you feats for lvl 23 & 27. Can't get perfect stance. But coudl get grandmaster for +1 crit Crap Reflex No Improved Evasion APS will be tight No move speed bonus Dodge may be weakish ---------------------- Unarmed works ok. Stun would be great. Not the best in big groups of mobs. -------------------------- Dual Nightmares? Could use heavy armor and focus on PRR. Could do O.Crit Might even be able to leverage negs+cleaves for awesome implosions/instakills (did this on a clonk with gravewraps. Works well with slay living actually) Reflex = lol -------------------------------- Sireth blitz-based. Some guy on forums says he rolls this way and it works in EE. Thoughts? Why are people still taking 17 cleric. Guys THERE ARE NO RAIDS LEFT IN THE GAME.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #6 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 7:17am	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 3:09am: Why are people still taking 17 cleric. Guys THERE ARE NO RAIDS LEFT IN THE GAME. Because I can still implode stuff.

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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #7 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 8:46am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 7:17am: Because I can still implode stuff. This. With a 58 Evo DC, Implosion is great.


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Asheras Completionist (i.t.p.) Offline This is why we can't have nice things. Posts: 10230 Location: Ohio Joined: Jun 9^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #8 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 8:48am	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 3:09am: Why are people still taking 17 cleric.� Guys THERE ARE NO RAIDS LEFT IN THE GAME.� Also, CiTW and FoT are still legit. And a new raid is coming next year. Sure you can TR and change your build when you need to, but you can do some sweet stuff with an 18 FvS or a 17 Cleric and have a ton of fun in EE content. You do need the gear and the PL's to make it fly, though. It's not something you will be pulling off on a poorly geared 1st or 2nd lifer.


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #9 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 10:15am	Print Post
	1. Good gear isn't even hard to get anymore. 2. Having "great" gear takes some work. That's a good thing. 3. I already have A shiradi and a monkcher who win DDO. 4. Of the "great" gear that takes work, 75%+ is farmable with other toons. (c.f. #3) 5. This toon is on like life 8 or 9. Probably will be 10 when I actually do the cleric build. So.. yeah.
	« Last Edit: Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 10:20am by Meat-Head »
	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #10 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 10:17am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 8:46am: This.� With a 58 Evo DC, Implosion is great. Forums have a breakdown of over 70 available atm.

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #11 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 10:43am	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 8:46am: This.� With a 58 Evo DC, Implosion is great. I LOL'd.� The topic is "EE" not "anything except EE".


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kierg10 Shroud Slacker Offline Cuddly wuddly cats Posts: 1039 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #12 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 11:22am	Print Post
	17 cleric 2 ranger 1 fighter heavy armour bow user w/many shot, max'd wisdom for evo DCs, and raid healing capability? could be nice if you can fit the feats

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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #13 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 12:42pm	Print Post
	kierg10 wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 11:22am: 17 cleric 2 ranger 1 fighter heavy armour bow user w/many shot, max'd wisdom for evo DCs, and raid healing capability? could be nice if you can fit the feats I found this doable and viable. But, I have a monkcher, so I'm looking for a diff playstyle. I now have an idea will post in a min to get feedback

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #14 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 1:48pm	Print Post
	Ok, this deviates from my 17 cleric thing. But, atomic swayed me. I DO like implosion. BUT, in order to get it viable you REALLY have to focus. I'm finding I prefer flexibility. SO, I decided to go a different route-- I give you.. The Priesturnaught (version alpha) Concept: Flexible self-healing melee w/ranged option which can help buff/heal group and has solid defense through saves, PRR, self heals, and ability to kite when necessary. 12 cleric 6 ranger 2 pally DORF� (partially for flavor-- my original life was a dorf "battle cleric"-- but it also works) Stats: 16+6tome+1LUs+10item+2insightful+2destiny+1globe+2ship+2yugo+5primal+2enh+15Divi neMight=64[27mod] 14+5tome+8slot/gear+2ship+1globe=28[10 mod] 18+5ome+2enh+11item+2ship+1globe+2insight+5primal=46[18mod] 8+5 tome+2ship+1globe=16[3mod] 8+5ome+8slot+1globe+2ship=24[7mod] 12+5tome+6LUs+2insight+1globe+10item+2ship+2yugo=40[15mod] Feats (not in order): Heroic EmpHeal Max Quicken PA Impcrit:slash Cleave gCleave Ranger Auto twf itwf Precise Shot Manyshot Bowstrength Rapidshot Epic O.crit Imp Crit Ranged Stun Blow (or IPS) HitPoints 25 Heroic Dur. 144� �Clr/Rngr 20� �� Pally 30� �� Vitality 40� �� False Life 45� �� Shroud 80� �� Epic 504� �Con 30� �� Dorf Enh 10� �� Draconic Vit 50� �� LD destiny 15� �� Warpriest = 993 Buffed SpellPoints 80 Magical Training 545� 12 Cleric 50� � 6 Ranger 210� Wisdom 200� Archmagi 150 Shroud = 1235 SP Saves: F/R/W 8/4/8� �� cleric 3/0/0� �� pally 5/5/2� �� ranger 4/4/4� �� GH 0/10/0� �� Dex 18/0/0� �� Con 0/0/7� �� Wis 4/4/4� �� Insight/Parrying 10/10/10� Resistance 15/15/15� Divine Grace 0/1/0� �� Haste 0/6/0� �� Magister Twist 1/1/1� �� Ship 1/1/1� �� Alchem Ritual 2/2/2� �� Good Luck 3/3/3 Epic Levels 74/66/57 3/3/3� Spells from Dorf 77/69/60 Stun DC 10+27str+3dorf+1ftrpl+10item+5CM+6LD=62 Enhancements: TBD
	« Last Edit: Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 9:08am by Meat-Head »
	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #15 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 2:56pm	Print Post
	i think it's funny that people think putting 12x / 6 Monk or Ranger / 2 monk or Ranger and LD or Fury is somehow making up a build. It's not. It's all just variation on using blitz or fury for manyshot and melee. These are just builds that allow people utilize blitz and fury. Makes me sad that there is no melee build without one of those 2 ED's (except maybe monk in GMOF)


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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #16 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 2:58pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 8:46am: This.� With a 58 Evo DC, Implosion is great. Maddmatt ? Hey I read 55 assassinate works well too ! 63- 64 works in old shit and Wheloon. I thought about clonk ( godly EiN and SF but shit evo ), but that's not much "clericy" and more punchy, so fuck that, I 'd play monk then. Fury "soul" maybe, but that's gimp monkcher too. Decided to go pure cleric, should be at 68 evo when at cap. But prolly won't cut it in Stormhorns, noone runs it anyway so meh.


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #17 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 6:27pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 2:56pm: i think it's funny that people think putting 12x / 6 Monk or Ranger / 2 monk or Ranger and LD or Fury is somehow making up a build. It's not. It's all just variation on using blitz or fury for manyshot and melee. These are just builds that allow people utilize blitz and fury. Makes me sad that there is no melee build without one of those 2 ED's (except maybe monk in GMOF) THose are kinda the main melee DPS EDs. Unless you're a rogue-- You do SD Or a Tank you might go US Or a Druid you might even do Primal. So in other words, there ARE other EDs people use. But if you run a flexible DPS build in the DPS EDs, then it's "funny" or "sad" to you. Kewl Story. Is it sad when DC casters use DI or Magister? Just wonderin'.

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Selee Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 985 Location: Atlanta, GA Joined: Aug 29^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #18 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 8:21pm	Print Post
	Meat-Head wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 10:17am: Forums have a breakdown of over 70 available atm. Linky pls.

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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #19 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 8:40pm	Print Post
	Meat-Head wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 6:27pm: THose are kinda the main melee DPS EDs. My point is the first 20 levels dont really matter. It's all in the ED's. Meat-Head wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 6:27pm: Unless you're a rogue-- You do SD Or a Tank you might go US Or a Druid you might even do Primal. Not for a DPS melee build or a cheese many shot 12/6/2 build. Its Fury or LD. Meat-Head wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 6:27pm: But if you run a flexible DPS build in the DPS EDs, then it's "funny" or "sad" to you. Kewl Story. Is it sad when DC casters use DI or Magister? Just wonderin'. Lol what caster uses DI or Magister? They use Shiradi. Just like all melee use Fury or LD. Using the example of a Rogue in SD is asinine. As is the unherad of Druid in Primal (no one uses primal except previously some exploitery monk builds fore the Tree form). I'm just sick of 12/6/2 builds. Relax. It's not your fault (except for being uncreative) it's Turbine's fault for not knowing how to balance ANYTHING.


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kierg10 Shroud Slacker Offline Cuddly wuddly cats Posts: 1039 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #20 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 9:29pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 8:40pm: My point is the first 20 levels dont really matter. It's all in the ED's. Not for a DPS melee build or a cheese many shot 12/6/2 build. Its Fury or LD. Lol what caster uses DI or Magister? They use Shiradi. Just like all melee use Fury or LD. Using the example of a Rogue in SD is asinine. As is the unherad of Druid in Primal (no one uses primal except previously some exploitery monk builds fore the Tree form). I'm just sick of 12/6/2 builds. Relax. It's not your fault (except for being uncreative) it's Turbine's fault for not knowing how to balance ANYTHING. my sorc runs draconic, and does fine I know of 2 wizards who hate the idea of shiradi and both run magister or draconic. Of course those two are also completionists........ But the point does stand that most� casters run shiradi, and it's really stupid. IMO they coulda made primal avatar better if they had done stuff running on the theme of rejuvenation cacoon, and had stuff in all tiers of the tree that upgrade the cacoon....would be cool.....
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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #21 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 10:42pm	Print Post
	Selee wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 8:21pm: Linky pls. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/423704-Theory-build-70-dc-evo-cleric

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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Carpone Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1695 Joined: Jul 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #22 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 11:16pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 8:40pm: Lol what caster uses DI or Magister? They use Shiradi. Shiradi even allows divine casters to retain their DCs.� Blade Barrier + Shiradi is pretty fun too.� Too bad that's the only trick it has.


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Bigjunk Horoluth Raider Offline Hjeal meh! Posts: 2686 Joined: Feb 2^nd, 2011 Gender:	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #23 - Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 11:24pm	Print Post
	Asheras wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 8:46am: This.� With a 58 Evo DC, Implosion is great. Maybe in epic casual.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: EE Cleric? Reply #24 - Sep 23^rd, 2013 at 3:04am	Print Post
	Bigjunk wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2013 at 11:24pm: Maybe in epic casual. That was kind of the point Asheras and I were making.

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