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Darkrok Shroud Slacker Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 1066 Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #50 - Nov 23^rd, 2013 at 7:12pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2013 at 7:06pm: just use divine health or whatever its called on yourself with some healing amp and SP heals when you need them. aura isnt really necessary unless you're healing a party I think. That's what I'm trying right now. Was just really surprised when I started spending the AP as people normally lean on that aura. Once I start raiding I might be tempted to trade in Flamestrike (ended up taking it) and Sunburst to pick up the aura though. I definitely like how it's playing so far...ran ID a couple times (once on EE) and the only problem I had was keeping my kid's ungeared thrower alive.

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HairyO Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 355 Joined: Jun 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #51 - Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:34pm	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Oct 4^th, 2013 at 3:50pm: Went with the Sun Elf Morninglord and decided on a Cleric18/FvS2 split. Maxed WIS and am going to concentrate on the Divine Disciple's SLAs. Will get my WIS as high as possible (will be 56 with only Ship buffs) and do all I can to raise my Evocation DCs as high as possible without gimping the toon. Shiradi and Exalted Angel will be the EDs of choice. Will concentrate on Radiance and Positive spellpower and Lores but will also have an 80 Potency item to power up Blade Barrier damage a bit. There will be no melee capability to speak of but there will be some PRR (40 or so), Blurriness, a little Dodge, and some pretty decent Healing Amp as well as a nice shield to hide behind (actively blocking) while throwing my SLAs. Feats are/will be: 1 Empower Healing 3 Empower Spell 6 Heighten Spell 9 Maximize Spell 12 Quicken Spell (uninterruptible Heals and Mass Heals are nice) 15 Spell Focus - Evocation 18 Greater Spell Focus - Evocation 21 Epic Spell Focus - Evocation 24 Great Wisdom 26 Epic Spell Power - Light 27 Epic Damage Resistance 28 Epic Spell Power - Positive Should have a 35%+ chance to Critical my Light spells and a 25%+ chance to Critical my Cures/Heals. SLAs will include: Avenging Light (SLA from Exalted Angel ED) Nimbus of Light Searing Light Holy Smite Sunburst (from Sun Elf Morninglord Racial enhancement tree; only every 30 seconds though) Bit of a thread necro here, but I have access to Completionist and Wiz Past Life (obviously), so Im wondering whether to take all of the above but substitute out Greater and Epic Spell Focus and just go with 1 level of Spell Focus, given I get +2 to all schools with Completionist and Wiz PL. So really, Im wondering whether there are EDs or other Epic Feats which will require me taking more of the Spell Focus feats?


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #52 - Jan 14^th, 2014 at 12:30am	Print Post
	HairyO wrote on Jan 13^th, 2014 at 11:34pm: So really, Im wondering whether there are EDs or other Epic Feats which will require me taking more of the Spell Focus feats? Not to my knowledge.

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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4338 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #53 - Jan 14^th, 2014 at 3:00am	Print Post
	Epic spell focus x requires greater spell focus x. Otherwise no.

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HairyO Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 355 Joined: Jun 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #54 - Jan 14^th, 2014 at 4:33am	Print Post
	Sounds like I should be fine then. What gear have you gone for (mainly interested in ideas for levelling rather than staying at 28 because I will be Iconic TRing)? I have an FvS alt which has a Wisdom version of the Terrorweb which I bought for nothing. Its not always available on the AH though. War Wizards commendation armor is probably better than the Cleric commendation version, but the Cleric ring and necklace are pretty good. For a Cleric though, I wonder if the 10% reduced spell cost is worth going for and just putting up with the Cleric commendation armor. PDK gloves are pretty good and I can use GS HP and SP items. So really its a matter of finding somewhere for Fort (or a Heavy Fort augment), Speed/Striding, Deathblock, False Life, and maybe Spellcraft.


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pape Dragon Raider Offline Posts: 227 Joined: Oct 30^th, 2010	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #55 - Feb 24^th, 2014 at 1:49pm	Print Post
	Does this build require past lives? I have a first life cleric used for hjealing guild raids. I like the idea behind more offensive output. Would this build - minus the +4 tomes, be viable for a first lifer?


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #56 - Feb 24^th, 2014 at 2:58pm	Print Post
	My healer+light cleric is a first lifer.

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ancient Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 24 Location: Here! Joined: Apr 30^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #57 - Feb 24^th, 2014 at 11:41pm	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 8:20pm: I don't think 6 FvS for archon is worth it It is 12 for archon. I tried the cleric, but in my test builds I went back to Elf 12 FVS/6 Monk/2 Pally casting non-meta searing light and nimbus of light as fillers. Next time the test server is up, I'll give the cleric primary another look but I'm a big fan of super survival builds.


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Mokune Shroud Slacker Offline Gimped Hairless Ape Posts: 1115 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2011	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #58 - Feb 26^th, 2014 at 8:33am	Print Post
	My guild mate Bloodyfistah and I are planning on learning/leading/running some FoT in the near future and my main Mokune 9Monk/11Ranger AA needs CoH. So, I figured I'd ETR then HTR into a Morninglord Caster/Raid healer build similar to this. But with 2Monk/18Cleric If I was going for DCs I think though I would swap out ESF:Evo or Great Wisdom for Completionist. More utility across the board imo if available to you. For more Shiradi type DPS I'd swap ESF: Evo for Completionist AND Great Wisdom for PL:Wiz for more free meta'd procs. I plan on farming the last of the Karma I need in Arcane, playing/capping the new Divine ED and getting the Karma in the Divine Sphere capped. 18Wis Lvl-ups (16pts) 14 Con (10pts) 16 Int (6pts) 12 Cha (4pts) Similar Feat Selection but for this build I'll take Completionist in place of ESF: Evo and Insightful Reflexes in place of Great Wisdom. 2 Monk Feats: Lightning Reflex, Deflect Arrows/Great Fortitude. Prolly leave the grove at 14 and holding. Should be nice starting at 2Monk/12Cleric.

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Persiflage Abbot Raider Offline Posts: 974 Location: Khyber Joined: Jan 28^th, 2013	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #59 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 7:34am	Print Post
	I have a first-life Sun Elf mule toon I have been messing around with; she's currently banking 17, and I was going to go pure but I'm tempted to try this instead. Originally I was shooting for Necro, but it seems more rational to go for nuking after reading this. It's tempting to go 16/2/2 with Monk and FvS splashes. Hmmm.

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Mokune Shroud Slacker Offline Gimped Hairless Ape Posts: 1115 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2011	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #60 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 8:53am	Print Post
	I was wondering about the raid healing viability and general utility of 2Mnk/18Cleric vs 2Mnk/2Pal/16Cleric or 2Mnk/2FVS/16Cleric They all have good points. I guess I will look to see anything other than the obvious that 18 Cleric brings over 16 Cleric with 2 FVS or Pal.

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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #61 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:15pm	Print Post
	Maybe if some people were playing the game instead of serial TRing they would know there is no such thing as " raid healing". It's 2014. Stay ranger/ monkcher if you wanna faster Fot lol.


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tachyon Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 369 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2013	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #62 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:25pm	Print Post
	Mokune wrote on Feb 27^th, 2014 at 8:53am: raid healing lol


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Mokune Shroud Slacker Offline Gimped Hairless Ape Posts: 1115 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2011	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #63 - Feb 27^th, 2014 at 12:48pm	Print Post
	Call me old fashioned.... But 3 years ago when we were running a daily cycle of DQ, VoN, Hound, Shroud, Reaver it seemed LFMs filled quicker with either my or a guildmates FVS or Cleric in the group. I suppose I gave the Vault a bit too much credit...it goes without saying that raid healing by and large is not needed. I rarely if ever have to spend SP healing a raid on my Druid when asked to play that role. I could probably heal a raid right now on my monkcher AA in US using AoE LoH, Emp Heal cocoon, CMW, CSW and UMD scrolls so w/e. I havn't played a cleric since long before Enh pass and there are lots of goodies in EA and DD as well as up and coming Divine Crusader to try out I figured why the hell not try it. Of fucking course healing is like 3rd in line behind DPS and Survivability. Fuckwits...

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FakeStrake Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama, Derailment and Duping! Posts: 1584 Location: Inferno side Joined: Jul 5^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #64 - Mar 21^st, 2014 at 1:07am	Print Post
	Arkat wrote on Oct 4^th, 2013 at 3:50pm: 1 Empower Healing 3 Empower Spell 6 Heighten Spell 9 Maximize Spell 12 Quicken Spell (uninterruptible Heals and Mass Heals are nice) 15 Spell Focus - Evocation 18 Greater Spell Focus - Evocation I really like this build, planning on giving it a try next heroic TR. will either go a) human - max wis, secondary con and int, dump the rest 1 maximize 1 Insightful reflex (will start 15 int, +5 tome, +6 item) 3 Wiz past life 6 Empower Spell 9 Spell focus evo 12 Quicken Spell 15 heighten? (is it for holy smite SLA and Blade Barrier?) 18 Greater Spell Focus - Evocation or b) half elf - max wis, secondary con and cha, dump the rest 1 maximize 1 pally dilly 3 Wiz past life 6 Empower Spell 9 Spell focus evo 12 Quicken Spell 15 heighten? (is it for holy smite SLA and Blade Barrier?) 18 Greater Spell Focus - Evocation not having morninglord, which would you prefer? I do want decent saves, hence the human insightful and helf dilly
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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #65 - Mar 21^st, 2014 at 2:00am	Print Post
	You're going to have to be level 3 to take active past life feats. Heighten is to increase the DCs on your spells. In my opinion, it's a must for every caster build. I think favoured souls have better saves... If all you want is a divine caster, FvS might be a better option for you.

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FakeStrake Puppy Farmer Offline I Love Drama, Derailment and Duping! Posts: 1584 Location: Inferno side Joined: Jul 5^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #66 - Mar 21^st, 2014 at 2:51am	Print Post
	thanks, fixed. Was leaning towards cleric to play in the divine disciple tree, but not have painful reflex saves


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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #67 - Mar 21^st, 2014 at 3:00am	Print Post
	Hm. I don't remember my cleric life build - but I'm pretty sure I built (and played) it as a wizard (maxed out DC/spellpower, heightened slay living - destruction - blade barrier, et cetera). I believe I didn't take SF:evo and GSF:evo - I took SF:necro instead Oh, I took human. The saves weren't as high as FvS or paladin, but I made up for it in gear. True neutral so I could save gear slots with Superior Stability items - but if you already have +6 deflection and +6 saves planned in your gear, you can take the alignment of your choice. I also maxed out UMD so I could teleport and scroll cast FoD to confuzzle folks.

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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #68 - Mar 21^st, 2014 at 2:17pm	Print Post
	Heigthen for BB and Holy Smite, yes. Also for Amaunator's Brilliance (Sunburst), Sunbeam, and Sun Bolt. Go Human for the extra feat if Insightful Reflexes is important to you. Go Cleric definitely. Divine Disciple is great (and should be even better after 21.1 update) for Light stuff. It's a shame you don't have Sun Elf access. That Sunburst SLA is very nice for Blindness and Shiradi procs.
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Azog Ex Member	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #69 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 1:56am	Print Post
	AtomicMew wrote on Oct 2^nd, 2013 at 8:20pm: 16 cleric/2 fvs/2 monk Definitely splash at least 2 FvS for scourge, crit and just rewards.� � scourge and just reward , ok, understood. But...crit? what do you mean with that?


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #70 - Mar 27^th, 2014 at 2:04am	Print Post
	Quote: But...crit? what do you mean with that? Angel of Vengeance Tier 1 and tier 2 ability - Smiting "Your Fire, Force, Light, and Physical damage spells have an additional 2% chance to critically hit."

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Demoyn Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 189 Joined: Mar 18^th, 2014	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #71 - Mar 28^th, 2014 at 7:55pm	Print Post
	What end game gear did you end up doing? I'm working on a similar build (though I went Favored Soul / Monk), but now that it's almost 25 I'm at having trouble deciding what combination would work best.


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Arkat Chonus Christ Offline Hola Bienvenido Posts: 12345 Location: Wyoming Joined: Jul 13^th, 2009 Gender:	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #72 - Mar 29^th, 2014 at 1:06am	Print Post
	Demoyn wrote on Mar 28^th, 2014 at 7:55pm: What end game gear did you end up doing?� I'm working on a similar build (though I went Favored Soul / Monk), but now that it's almost 25 I'm at having trouble deciding what combination would work best. Current Gear: Head: Charismatic +9 Helm of Resistance +9 Eyes: EE Shadowsight - Topaz of Power +250 in Green Slot Neck: Sage's Locket Trinket: Planar Focus of Subterfuge +3 Wis Armor: Cormyrian Green Dragonplate Armor Cloak: EE Jeweled Cloak - Diamond of Dex +8 in the Yellow Slot, Globe of True Imperial Blood in the Green Slot Bracers: Convalescent (20%) Bracers of Parrying Belt: Health +9 Belt of False Life +50 Ring 1: Upgraded Lantern Ring - Topaz of Greater Evocation in Green Slot, Diamond of Insightful Charisma +2 in Colorless Slot Ring 2: EE Glorious Dawn - Sapphire of Heavy Fort in Green Slot Feet: Cannith Boots of Propulsion Gloves: Purple Dragon Gauntlets Main Hand: +10 Impulse (+138) Scepter of Healing Lore (IX) Off Hand: EE Bulwark of the Storm's Fist - Sapphire of Good Luck +2 in Blue Slot, Ruby of Devotion (+138) in Purple Slot
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Demoyn Waterworks Kobold Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 189 Joined: Mar 18^th, 2014	Re: Healer + Light Cleric? Reply #73 - Mar 30^th, 2014 at 11:20am	Print Post
	Thank you!


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	TRing a dwarf 17 cleric/2 fighter/1 wizard radiant melee into a light nuker morninglord. Best suggestions for a class split and enhancements to take?


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