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Re: Healer + Light Cleric?
Reply #75 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 2:35pm
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DoRayEgon wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 1:44pm:
TRing a dwarf 17 cleric/2 fighter/1 wizard radiant melee into a light nuker morninglord.  Best suggestions for a class split and enhancements to take?

For class splits and feats, go here:

http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1380661574/18#18

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Reply #76 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 3:18pm
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Excellent, thank you.  I suppose it goes without saying you find the Morninglord Tier 4 SLA worth it.....
  
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Reply #77 - Apr 4th, 2014 at 6:34pm
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DoRayEgon wrote on Apr 4th, 2014 at 3:18pm:
Excellent, thank you.  I suppose it goes without saying you find the Morninglord Tier 4 SLA worth it.....

Right now, because he's in Shiradi Prism stance with Double Rainbow all the time, yes. The changes to Exhalted Angel ED, however, may make me re-consider that.
  

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Reply #78 - Apr 8th, 2014 at 8:46pm
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I was looking at a Light-based caster and I think I settled on 14Fvs/4Clr/2Pal. Once I gave up lvl 9 spells I had more freedom for the splash. My plan was going Cha-based for SP and saves mostly. I'm still playing with the enhancements to try and get the SLAs I want, but once you drop any DC casting I think the Sunburst SLA loses most if its appeal, making Human most likely a better option. It's planned as a Morninglord currently.

Losing True Res is something I'm not sure I can live without, for raids it's so useful for me to cast and move to the next target instead of following up with healing.
  
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Re: Healer + Light Cleric?
Reply #79 - Apr 8th, 2014 at 11:27pm
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Packfan wrote on Apr 8th, 2014 at 8:46pm:
Losing True Res is something I'm not sure I can live without, for raids it's so useful for me to cast and move to the next target instead of following up with healing.

Indeed.

Regarding the Sunburst SLA, I might drop it and spend the APs on something else. Not sure what though. I would really like to break the standing 400 Light Spell Power barrier though.
  

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Reply #80 - Apr 10th, 2014 at 5:40pm
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Packfan wrote on Apr 8th, 2014 at 8:46pm:
Losing True Res is something I'm not sure I can live without, for raids it's so useful for me to cast and move to the next target instead of following up with healing.


Meh, at this point in the game, they can top themselves up.  If they can't, they're better off as a soulstone.
  
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Reply #81 - Apr 19th, 2014 at 11:38am
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Try out a exalted 17 cleric 2 monk 1 soul, kinda most interesting split idea i have atm for a cleric build.
With new exalted can get pretty high dcs.
So something like light spp focused with necro as secondary focus, aka wizzy plife 3 necro feats and full tard wisdom mode.
Should still have a prety good chunk of light spp with decent necro dc for most content.
Evocation is ok but genearaly useless later from my experience.
You dont have the same debuff kit as druids get so your sunburst/sun bolt etc will have a rather low dc for evasive mobs.
Other options, maybe go for imploson. Or command. All seem ok now with new exalted.
(i dont know how to play in groups so i usualy build solo ee builds /: ye im not good with "people")
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Reply #82 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 6:48pm
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Lelouch wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 11:38am:
(i dont know how to play in groups so i usualy build solo ee builds /: ye im not good with "people")


I don't think any of us are.
  
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Reply #83 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:11pm
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Lelouch wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 11:38am:
Try out a exalted 17 cleric 2 monk 1 soul, kinda most interesting split idea i have atm for a cleric build.
With new exalted can get pretty high dcs.
So something like light spp focused with necro as secondary focus, aka wizzy plife 3 necro feats and full tard wisdom mode.

Good dodge and saves, but tanked prr and gear choices.
Also 3 feats for GM is a LOT, especially if you wanna fit Compl.
Also reflex not enough if you don't wanna devote twists solely for that.
I see all those shiny builds on paper, yet never seen one in game or posted hehe.
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Re: Healer + Light Cleric?
Reply #84 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:41pm
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Wouldnt go gmaster stance, only regular, pick dodge from monk freebies and maybe mobility, should be 5 % dodge(think its rounded to 4 dunno smthn doesnt work with dodge mobility spring line), 2 monk give 4%, regular ocean stance is 2%, 3 shadar plifes 3%.
Is 14% dodge before gear, can pick maybe 1 from encha and 10 item to put it to 25%.
Will save will be ok, but reflex and fort would suck.
Cant rly spare feats for full stance line, not worth it imo on a clonk. Monk would purely be for the purpose of maxing dodge and 2 wisdom from basic stance.
Played plenty fleshies and low saves things in ee.
Only thing you need to support that kind of builds is basicaly a good cc capability.
Sorcs/wizzy get holds webs, melle can get tactical cc or celestia cc.
Palie split would give saves for the more safer approach.
Not sure if it would work out, but il surely try it out for divine plifes grind and for a change of playstyle.
Staying away lately from monkchery and shiradi since they are so boring
  
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Re: Healer + Light Cleric?
Reply #85 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 7:29am
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Lelouch wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 11:38am:
Evocation is ok but genearaly useless later from my experience.

Implosion is supposedly getting a fix ( fingers crossed ),  Sunburst for total Shadow raid and Whellon kill counts raping.
Soundburst for decent ( yet sp intensive ) CC and extra dmg on Divine Wrath.
And you still have situationally good ( ~60 )  Conj and Necro.
I think Evo is the best choice.
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Re: Healer + Light Cleric?
Reply #86 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 7:33am
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Wipe wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 7:29am:
Implosion is supposedly getting a fix ( fingers crossed ),  Sunburst for total Shadow raid and Whellon kill counts raping.
Soundburst for decent ( yet sp intensive ) CC and extra dmg on Divine Wrath.
And you still have situationally good ( ~60 )  Conj and Necro.
I think Evo is the best choice.


What is this issue with Implosion?  Is it an EE caster DC thing or is it not working in some situations?

I am seeing it hit 7 or 8 mobs a cast in some situations (no-low SR) in EH GH and below...EE is a different matter entirely...
  

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Reply #87 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 7:42am
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It would sometimes "target" friendly party members or NPCs, therefore wasting "ticks".
It has been like that since I don't even remember.
Cast Implosion in the middle of your party fighting some mobs and escorting that dude in Detour and 4 from 6 ticks might just go to waste.
  
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Reply #88 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 8:27pm
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Wipe wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 7:29am:
Implosion is supposedly getting a fix ( fingers crossed )


It is?  That would be good.  Where'd you hear that?

Wipe wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 7:29am:
And you still have situationally good ( ~60 )  Conj and Necro.
I think Evo is the best choice.


For more of a nuking-focused, Evo's probably better, but personally I love having more insta-killing goodness from primary Necro focus, Evo secondary.
  
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Reply #89 - Apr 23rd, 2014 at 8:43pm
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SirValentine wrote on Apr 23rd, 2014 at 8:27pm:
It is?  That would be good.  Where'd you hear that?

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Reply #90 - Apr 24th, 2014 at 1:41pm
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I'm playing 16clr, 2 monk, 2 fvs light blaster/healer.  And it's great.  I don't really miss implosion/mass heal/energy drain (well only a little). 
Very viable build.  done 3 epic divine lives with it in a row.  Another 3 to go.
  

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Reply #91 - Apr 28th, 2014 at 3:40pm
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Mass heal is worthless (nearly).  Energy drain is nice, but implosion hasn't given me the shivers in a while.

For nuker clerics/FVS its all about the SLA's now and making them as good as possible on a solid, survivable base.  This can be achieved a few ways and to each their own.  I have found a morninglord 16CLR/2MNK/2PAL to suit me.

Babysit healing can be achieved by a few twists or destiny choice if you are in that game.
  
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