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Oct 2nd, 2013 at 3:36pm
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Is Pure Arty viable in endgame/EE ? Apart from the Jugg THF style lines should I try? or do 16 arty 2 pally 2 ranger?
  
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Reply #1 - Oct 2nd, 2013 at 3:53pm
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Reply #2 - Oct 2nd, 2013 at 7:17pm
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Pure viable? Yes. OP awesomeness of a Jugg? No.
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 2nd, 2013 at 8:01pm
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I see zero reason to go pure arti.  You can try 18 arti/2 monk/1 ?.  Lots of possibilities on that last level now.  With shiradi and leveraging blade barrier, it should be a pretty decent meat grinder for soloing.  However, I hate hybrids.  Honestly, why not just play a monkcher?
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 2nd, 2013 at 8:09pm
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I want to be able to do 21 heroic classes.

Tell me your secret.
  
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Reply #5 - Oct 2nd, 2013 at 11:08pm
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My Arti is pure. I took the Shadowdancer ED (hello Evasion!) as well. He's got a 54 Int and Insightful Reflexes.

That means a LOT of crossbow damage and with my gear and ship buffs, a 51 Reflex save.

Yes he's a Repeater build who can exceed 350 first number points of damage with his shots.

I have fun with him.
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Reply #6 - Oct 2nd, 2013 at 11:13pm
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Look up Dubble O'Seven (or however it's mangled) build on the forums. He plays on Sarlona and has always been very solid, though I haven't run with him since U19 and dunno if he updated.
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 6:24am
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Arkat wrote on Oct 2nd, 2013 at 11:08pm:
My Arti is pure. I took the Shadowdancer ED (hello Evasion!) as well. He's got a 54 Int and Insightful Reflexes.

That means a LOT of crossbow damage and with my gear and ship buffs, a 51 Reflex save.

Yes he's a Repeater build who can exceed 350 first number points of damage with his shots.

I have fun with him.


What do you have twisted out of interest? My pure arti's been mothballed at 20 for some time, but I have a hankering to give him another go. He's basically the dubble'o seven build on a first life (so 16 con). The dubble 'o build takes:

Twist1: Magister evocation specialist (+3 evocation DC's)
Twist2: Draconic incarnation precise casting (+2 evocation DC's)
Twist3: Unyielding sentinal brace for impact (40% fort, +2 saves, allows usage of Yugo int pots with no fort reduction)

Is this what you go with?
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Reply #8 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 1:35pm
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20 Arty is beast in Shadowdancer with evasion and shadow form. Don't forget how awesome the Charm/Kill thing is, and before THEY BROKE IT AGAIN consume was beast. It's broken now though, at least it was a week ago on my 25 Rogue Shadowdancer. SR-less implosion.

You can also twist in energy burst. Honestly though, some Arty 12/x/x would be much better I'm sure. Although for rune arm damage you pretty much want to be pure or close to it Think.
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rest wrote on Oct 2nd, 2013 at 8:09pm:
I want to be able to do 21 heroic classes.

Tell me your secret.

Can't.  Fight club.
  
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Reply #10 - Oct 3rd, 2013 at 7:53pm
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Artis are only gimped in situations where Turbine went “Full Retard” on the mob saves.  (ex. Vine Horrors having evasion and 45+ reflex saves in HE Lost in the Swamp.)  Other than that, they’re a lot more fun to play than prior to the enhancement pass.  If you go heavy on Battle Engineer, the Tactical Mobility enhancement makes Runearms a lot more fun.  If you go heavy on Arcanotech, the SLAs are a lot of fun.

I’d like to give you some feedback on a hand and a half melee arti, but I have to stick to a Weekend Warrior schedule until late december.
  
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Reply #11 - Oct 4th, 2013 at 9:32am
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So they are a great solo toon in Heroic still. But more a support role in EE maybe EH?
  
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NOTdarth wrote on Oct 2nd, 2013 at 7:17pm:
Pure viable? Yes. OP awesomeness of a Jugg? No.


jugg is not as awesome as it was.
  
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Arkat wrote on Oct 2nd, 2013 at 11:08pm:
My Arti is pure. I took the Shadowdancer ED (hello Evasion!) as well. He's got a 54 Int and Insightful Reflexes.

That means a LOT of crossbow damage and with my gear and ship buffs, a 51 Reflex save.

Yes he's a Repeater build who can exceed 350 first number points of damage with his shots.

I have fun with him.


would that 350 first number be a crit or non crit? lol.
  
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Reply #14 - Oct 4th, 2013 at 10:22pm
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Luxgolg wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 9:32am:
So they are a great solo toon in Heroic still. But more a support role in EE maybe EH?


They rock in EH.  (Even solo EH.)  They’re fun in an EE group.  Anything with evasion will piss you off in EE as Turbine scaled reflex saves into the stratosphere for no apparent reason.
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kierg10 wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 10:00pm:
would that 350 first number be a crit or non crit? lol.

Crit obvs
  
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Arkat wrote on Oct 4th, 2013 at 11:36pm:
Crit obvs


I had to ask....some people make bat shit crazy dps claims and then they say "not crit" lol
  
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Reply #17 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 9:47am
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I can be wrong at times but I ain't bat-shit crazy!  Tongue
  
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Reply #18 - Oct 5th, 2013 at 11:00pm
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Don't play one but I know a few good ones.  Had a damn hysterical EE WGU today with two Shiradi Artis in it.
  
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Reply #19 - Oct 6th, 2013 at 2:26am
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Isn't that true ? Good tea with that arty manyshotey thing.
Kills shit like Pop skelly or End of the road demon faster than monkcher and furyshotting juggy combined lol.

Obligatory : FUCK SHIRADIS.
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Re-booted one of my older arty builds. did a +20 heart, rebuilt him. Damage still sucky on base non crit damage. 30-50's at level 16. This made me sad
  
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Luxgolg wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 9:13am:
Re-booted one of my older arty builds. did a +20 heart, rebuilt him. Damage still sucky on base non crit damage. 30-50's at level 16. This made me sad


You doing Deadly Weapons and Insightful DAMAGE?  (Just making sure you’re not confusing Damage with Strikes.)
  
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QuantumFX wrote on Oct 7th, 2013 at 7:57pm:
You doing Deadly Weapons and Insightful DAMAGE?  (Just making sure you’re not confusing Damage with Strikes.)


Just non buffed base. With DW and ID its more 50-75 with bigger crits. That still doesnt cut it for epic levels
  
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Luxgolg wrote on Oct 8th, 2013 at 9:19am:
Just non buffed base. With DW and ID its more 50-75 with bigger crits. That still doesnt cut it for epic levels


How crappy of a crossbow are you using?  I’m thinking you may be talking to a bunch of Needle, Quill-slinger users here.  (I am.)  Between the 2.5[1d12] base damage and the 19-20/x3 crit profile, it makes a huge difference on the fun factor.
  
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Reply #24 - Oct 9th, 2013 at 8:49am
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QuantumFX wrote on Oct 9th, 2013 at 2:28am:
How crappy of a crossbow are you using?  I’m thinking you may be talking to a bunch of Needle, Quill-slinger users here.  (I am.)  Between the 2.5[1d12] base damage and the 19-20/x3 crit profile, it makes a huge difference on the fun factor.


I ran that raid for the first time last night. yuck.

Needle is also ML23 and that seems to be what I'd have to use. I will be paying more attention to lootgen repeaters that drop for a little while. Apart from my Lit II I am not seeing dmg numbers to make me want to continue for long past 20 on my arty
  
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