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Toughness feat?
Oct 11th, 2013 at 12:07am
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Is anyone taking it now that it's been removed from most races as an enhancement to boost it as well as being removed from most classes?

At level 28 it gets you a grand total of 30 HP and a whopping 22 at level 20.  I'm thinking it's just not worth a feat for 30 extra HP endgame.

Am I missing something here?
  
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Reply #1 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 12:10am
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It sucks. Ditch it.
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 2:12am
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I am not taking it. Never ever again.
Interesting how a "must have" feat suddenly turns into a shit feat.
  
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Reply #3 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 2:41am
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I'll take it as a Monk Bonus feat if I have dodge, TWF, PA and I'm happy with my saves.
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 3:42am
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I take toughness/epic toughness on my wizard because there's so many feat slots what else are you going to take. It may not be strictly necessary because the way I'm built I no-fail any reflex or fort save currently, but it's still nice when an EE shadar-kai assassin manages to catch you or w/e.

Don't have it on the other two characters I play currently though, centered kensai and AA. No room to even think about it.
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Reply #5 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 9:16am
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Yeah, the only way I would take it is if I'm also fitting in Epic Toughness.
  
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Reply #6 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 4:39pm
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Darkrok wrote on Oct 11th, 2013 at 9:16am:
Yeah, the only way I would take it is if I'm also fitting in Epic Toughness.


that's 2 feats for 80hp.

Lame.
  
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Reply #7 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 5:55pm
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Darkrok wrote on Oct 11th, 2013 at 9:16am:
Yeah, the only way I would take it is if I'm also fitting in Epic Toughness.


This.

It helps out a fair amount on classes with lower HP die values.
  
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Reply #8 - Oct 11th, 2013 at 7:33pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Oct 11th, 2013 at 4:39pm:
that's 2 feats for 80hp.

Lame.


Lame maybe, but what else are you going to do with those two feats on a wizard? They won't let us take multiple Mental Toughness, the bastards.
  
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Re: Toughness feat?
Reply #9 - Oct 12th, 2013 at 12:01am
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OK TY for the input.  I felt the same just wanted to be certain.

BTW Azog good point.  Something that was must have is now shit.  I've Tr'd 4 toons since the update and just now noticed that it was doing me shit for good.  i always have just taken it instictively.  Gonna have to go back and fix that.
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