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Bjriand Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 14 Joined: May 23^rd, 2013 Gender:	What goes up Oct 21^st, 2013 at 9:04am	Print Post
	Hoping someone can help figure out where me and my TR partner went wrong. Everything was smooth sailing until the end fight. We took down the pillars, killed the trash and were pretty much left with the constant respawns of casters and shadar kai assassins. This was heroic elite btw. The boss would never stay in one place for more than a few seconds. Might get one or two hits in if we were lucky. Managed to get him to half health, but after 30-45 minutes of chasing him around, it got annoying and we left the quest. Is there some trick or something we missed to keep the boss in place for more than a few seconds? Watched a video on youtube of an epic elite and the boss seemed to be out for a significant amount of time....


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: What goes up Reply #1 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 9:18am	Print Post
	If he's teleporting constantly+his health is resetting, there's a required trash mob from a wave somewhere you haven't killed. The assassins and mages aren't required and just constantly respawn, but the first wave of orcs, wave of ice ellies, wave of shadovar each need to be 100% cleared before you can damage the boss further. Once in awhile one of the required kills will fall off the map and you get to roll the dice with seeing if you can get a GM that will bother to fix/complete the quest for you.


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Bjriand Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 14 Joined: May 23^rd, 2013 Gender:	Re: What goes up Reply #2 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 9:25am	Print Post
	Hmm, his health wasn't resetting, but he was constantly teleporting. Maybe an ice elemental fell off because we never saw a wave of shadovar as far as I remember. I'll give it another go tonight and make sure all waves are cleared. Will probably do like the video and fight everything at the end fight entrance with the hope that none fall off.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: What goes up Reply #3 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 9:31am	Print Post
	His health may not reset until you get him down to 30% or so. You can't miss the shadovar, the purple shadowfell effect happens and doesn't go away until you kill all 4, and you actually get an objective for it unlike the orcs and ellies. The final wave of orcs after the shadovar is not required btw, those you can kite off/CC and just take him down. He'll teleport when he's vulnerable to being killed, but it'll "only" be every 15-30 seconds or so.
	« Last Edit: Oct 21^st, 2013 at 9:33am by cdr »

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Glenalth Puppy Farmer Offline Not banned, just bored Posts: 1602 Location: Albuquerque Joined: Sep 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What goes up Reply #4 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 4:26pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 9:18am: If he's teleporting constantly+his health is resetting, there's a required trash mob from a wave somewhere you haven't killed. The assassins and mages aren't required and just constantly respawn, but the first wave of orcs, wave of ice ellies, wave of shadovar each need to be 100% cleared before you can damage the boss further. This was a hilarious issue for a couple of first timers a couple of nights ago. Would not have figured it out except for being able to see his actual HP values kept resetting to the exact same number.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: What goes up Reply #5 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 5:13pm	Print Post
	Yeah, it's really poorly implemented (aside from also being poorly designed). I kind of suspect they saw everything just get kited/CCed on lama and make the orcs/ellies required kills at the last minute. With no objective or any other indication that you have to kill them, of course.


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Glenalth Puppy Farmer Offline Not banned, just bored Posts: 1602 Location: Albuquerque Joined: Sep 13^th, 2010 Gender:	Re: What goes up Reply #6 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 6:44pm	Print Post
	cdr wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 5:13pm: Yeah, it's really poorly implemented (aside from also being poorly designed). I kind of suspect they saw everything just get kited/CCed on lama and make the orcs/ellies required kills at the last minute. With no objective or any other indication that you have to kill them, of course. The Shadovars get a quest objective at least, but no explanation of how the main guy is invulnerable. It was the previous wave that was totally nonsensical.


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�ed Dragon Raider Offline WTB Souls, PST Posts: 227 Joined: May 8^th, 2012	Re: What goes up Reply #7 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 6:56pm	Print Post
	He will run back to you also, so you don't really have to chase him.


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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: What goes up Reply #8 - Oct 21^st, 2013 at 7:26pm	Print Post
	�ed wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 6:56pm: He will run back to you also, so you don't really have to chase him. Well, sort of. He teleports randomly and will eventually teleport near enough that he sees you and runs over to you until he teleports again in 10-20 seconds. Agree that waiting for him to come to you is the better thing to do though.


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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: What goes up Reply #9 - Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 12:51am	Print Post
	You need to have some ranged DPS, and yes it's a major pain for melee. I would suggest DPSing him every chance you get and ignore pillars initially. The pillars do not teleport.


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�ed Dragon Raider Offline WTB Souls, PST Posts: 227 Joined: May 8^th, 2012	Re: What goes up Reply #10 - Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 11:15am	Print Post
	1) Invis, run to pillars 2) Destroy Pillars 3) Kill Shadovar 4) Go to safe spot 5) Dot boss, rinse, repeat.


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livefreeordie Titan Demolisher Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 362 Joined: Nov 21^st, 2011	Re: What goes up Reply #11 - Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 2:41pm	Print Post
	Bjriand wrote on Oct 21^st, 2013 at 9:04am: Hoping someone can help figure out where me and my TR partner went wrong.� Everything was smooth sailing until the end fight.� We took down the pillars, killed the trash and were pretty much left with the constant respawns of casters and shadar kai assassins.� This was heroic elite btw.� The boss would never stay in one place for more than a few seconds.� Might get one or two hits in if we were lucky.� Managed to get him to half health, but after 30-45 minutes of chasing him around, it got annoying and we left the quest.� Is there some trick or something we missed to keep the boss in place for more than a few seconds?� Watched a video on youtube of an epic elite and the boss seemed to be out for a significant amount of time.... The issue is directly related to the fact that you are still, for some reason, playing DDO.


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: What goes up Reply #12 - Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 4:09pm	Print Post
	�ed wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 11:15am: 1) Invis, run to pillars 2) Destroy Pillars 3) Kill Shadovar 4) Go to safe spot 5) Dot boss, rinse, repeat. not on EE unless you sell your kidney for the pots you'll need to buy.

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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NOTdarth Puppy Farmer Offline Save the Planet, Kill Yourself Posts: 1495 Joined: Oct 15^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: What goes up Reply #13 - Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 8:52pm	Print Post
	Meat-Head wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 4:09pm: not on EE unless you sell your kidney for the pots you'll need to buy. Don't tell me you didn't dupe the free major mnem turn ins?


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Meat-Head 53%Moron57%Misunderstood Offline Why am I reading crap on this forum? Posts: 12345 Location: Oregon Joined: Dec 5^th, 2011 Gender:	Re: What goes up Reply #14 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 1:00pm	Print Post
	NOTdarth wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2013 at 8:52pm: Don't tell me you didn't dupe the free major mnem turn ins?

	A half-dozen boss Vaulties donated generously with real money to my classroom during a fundraiser in May 2015 to get poor kids books to read. I won't forget that. They know who they are, and they freaking rule. Disavowed wrote on Apr 19^th, 2016 at 1:51pm: Once you meat your personal goal you might want to give that some consideration. Artorias wrote on Feb 10^th, 2016 at 2:15pm: Good grief Meat, you're hopeless. You would label the simple act of taking a shit as someone obeying the divine law of nature to leave a proof of existence.
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cdr Horoluth Raider Offline sleetstormer Posts: 2813 Joined: Dec 29^th, 2011	Re: What goes up Reply #15 - Oct 23^rd, 2013 at 1:07pm	Print Post
	The mnemonic trinkets are ok, but they're 20 charges and exclusive... like a Bauble you can only use 20 times.


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