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is faydingsun an alt account of a dev?
Oct 23rd, 2013 at 8:04am
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can't help but shake the feeling this brand new account with just 1 post is a frustrated dev trying to give management a kick up the arse. take a read and see what you think:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5143293#post5143293

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There are many great ideas on these forums to improve DDO. However that is not really the main goal of Turbine, it is a business after all so lets talk profits.

There are pushy ways to do business which may compel customers to make purchases but leave a negative impact on them. DDO is heading in that direction. It is really unnecessary as you have here a wonderful system already in place which could practically sell itself and become a much more popular game. Would you rather not have players spending money in excitement for what they are getting then bitterness for what they have to get?

There are many features we have been begging to buy. Monster Manuals, more cosmetics, more storage, reagent bags, races, classes, housing, sex change, quests, RAIDS. These are just a few off the top of my head. If you would sell us what we want you wouldn't have to trick us into buying what we don't.

DDO is one of the most unique and complex games I have played. The character creation system alone is the main draw for many people. Sadly most gamers have never heard of this game. Why do you not (modestly) advertise? Something simple and cheap, marketing yourself as the complex mmo or the most customizable or unique or action based combat. Any of these marketing points would be a big draw for people looking for such a game. Flaunt the strengths DDO has. There is a real niche market there for this type of game and DDO is the only place to find it.

Stimulate the sales of adventure packs;

While Shadowfell Conspiracy is very beautiful with great artwork and voice acting it is sadly not enough.
Most People buy packs for 2 reasons, loot and xp. Both of witch cost you NOTHING to increase. Why don't you?

What makes Adventure packs desirable;

XP and Loot

There is little to say about xp other than it should be increased if you want to make your adventure packs more enticing. If the new packs had something like von3 you would find Eveningstar much less of a ghost town.

Loot and how it affects the sales of adventure packs;


You have utterly destroyed the once brilliant and esteemed random loot system for no apparent reason. Not only is getting the same 4 suffixes a giant step backwards from what we knew and loved, the auction house is flooded with cheap random items that outclass most of the highest level named items. There goes any incentive to buy adventures for loot. Poor XP and meager loot have successfully rendered your new shiny expansion insignificant and undesirable regardless of it's quality.

Revert random loot to how it used to be when MOTU launched. It was perfect. We had a plethora of unique and exciting effects, we had composed weapon affixes, we had clickies. It was fun, but now loot is boring and therefor the game is boring. Everything we loot now is the same; retributive, doublestrike, ghostbane, deadly or accuracy. We have yet to hear any dev comment as to why you would butcher such a core aspect of this game. Revert random loot and scale it to be slightly less powerful then named loot of the same level. You will once again incentivise people to buy adventures for the sexy named loot. That is one of the biggest draws to mmos, I cannot stress that enough. People love named loot in these games.

Regarding the old packs, they were once the endgame epics. People would stay at 20, raid and farm for epic ingredients and all was wonderful. With the increase in level cap, 20 is nothing more than a pit stop. Those once sought after epic named items are nothing more then level 20 suboptimal named loot. Why do we still need to spend a year grinding for these ingredients when we are getting better random loot, regardless of how boring it is? If the old epic items dropped completed (like every other named item) it would add some value to these old packs. Another thing that made those packs attractive is the ability to work towards your reincarnation which is also being removed, further decreasing their value.

Reincarnation

A very tricky feature to quantify. On one hand its current popularity is mainly due to the lack of an endgame, on the other it is ingenious, innovative and unique to DDO. Actually one of the most brilliant features in the genre.

Hearts of wood however remind me of sigils. They were removed because they were a roadblock to player retention. They created a false obstacle in front of players limiting the amount of time they could spend in the game. Hearts are now serving this purpose.

Since the current loot mess has rendered raids quite pointless and the high level quests offering very little, there is nothing else to do at endgame currently which is only exacerbating the importance of reincarnating.
Anything done to make the reincarnation process more difficult is going to limit the amount of time players remain customers.

Instead you have chosen to monetize this feature with a very unpopular saga system. A system designed to sell not only hearts but adventure packs in a very underhanded manner. The community knows this, and the disdain is going to drive even more away. If the above insights about adventure packs were implemented The sales of all adventures would rise and there would be no cause to create such an unpopular system, the players would not hold resentment but respect and elation.


  
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Re: is faydingsun an alt account of a dev?
Reply #1 - Oct 23rd, 2013 at 8:14am
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1) That's a great post.
2) It certainly doesn't have anything to do with "dev" with Sun in their name.
  
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Won't work, they are too stuck up in their own ego's to think it is even possible they can make a mistake.  Hubris personified.
  
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Hes right.
  

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great summary of what is wrong, and what should be done to fix it.

  

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bang on, on all accounts.

Pity it's lost in the noise.
  

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They still dont have sex change?  That seems like an easy way to make some CS sales.
  
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ReaperAlexEU wrote on Oct 23rd, 2013 at 8:04am:
can't help but shake the feeling this brand new account with just 1 post is a frustrated dev


DDO is one of the most unique and complex games I have played.



Nope, devs don't play this game.
  
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Reply #8 - Oct 23rd, 2013 at 10:11am
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It's unbelievable how deaf the devs are.
  

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quite a few players quoted that post, so if you agree with it then give it a quote too. should help get the message through to em.

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Reply #10 - Oct 23rd, 2013 at 12:42pm
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We should try and make sure this stays on the last page of the thread at least until it gets locked, we get banned or Glin actually addresses / acknowledges it.
  

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Munkenmo wrote on Oct 23rd, 2013 at 9:37am:
Pity it's lost in the noise.



This. It's like no one ever saw it.
  
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Reply #12 - Oct 23rd, 2013 at 12:49pm
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There is a lot of hate for the devs. Aren't the devs just doing their jobs according to what people like Glin say? Shouldn't the hate be with them and not the devs?
  

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No way that guy is a dev. It's been proven over and over and over and over and over that they don't play the game at the same level as even an average player. No one as clueless as what we've seen from the devs could ever make a post like that.

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Yes and No.  They get direction I am sure...but most hair brained schemes seem to come from one or more of them and just get greenlit
  
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That makes sense.
  

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Aeolwind wrote on Oct 23rd, 2013 at 8:28am:
Won't work, they are too stuck up in their own ego's to think it is even possible they can make a mistake.  Hubris personified.


Not to cry doom or anything, but it is true that there are fewer people playing. I don't think it's hubris. I think it's desperation. With fewer people playing, they need to find ways to get more money out of those left to justify their existence or the continued project.
  
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Groo The Wanderer wrote on Oct 23rd, 2013 at 12:42pm:
We should try and make sure this stays on the last page of the thread at least until it gets locked, we get banned or Glin actually addresses / acknowledges it.


I re-posted it in the General Forum to hopefully prevent it from getting buried and maybe garner a bit more attn.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/428708-The-Real-Paradigm-Shift-Require...
  
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Reply #18 - Oct 23rd, 2013 at 2:08pm
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Just to kill the Dev rumor, because I don't think it's a dev...

Fading Suns is an old PnP Game ( it doesn't qualify to old old old as it's a 90'ish game ).

  

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AnalFissure wrote on Oct 23rd, 2013 at 1:41pm:
Not to cry doom or anything, but it is true that there are fewer people playing. I don't think it's hubris. I think it's desperation. With fewer people playing, they need to find ways to get more money out of those left to justify their existence or the continued project.


They are trying to do that with the store, making xp purchasable to keep it afloat.  Instead of a 2 side approach of actually improving the game and using the store.  Putting insane crap on the store and still tanking the content won't work.  They don't think what they are producing is bad that is the problem.....
  
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hmm, so if it isnt a dev maybe it's a forum troll that wants to be taken seriously?
  
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Flav wrote on Oct 23rd, 2013 at 2:08pm:
Just to kill the Dev rumor, because I don't think it's a dev...

Fading Suns is an old PnP Game ( it doesn't qualify to old old old as it's a 90'ish game ).



It is also an awesome game.
  
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AnalFissure wrote on Oct 23rd, 2013 at 1:41pm:
I don't think it's hubris. I think it's desperation. With fewer people playing, they need to find ways to get more money out of those left to justify their existence or the continued project.


I agree

10 Get lazy, release a few low quality updates
20 Players leave because of quality
30 Revenue = Population * SqueezeFactor
40 IF Revenue < Goal then increase SqueezeFactor
50 Population = Population - PlayersWhoCantHandle(SqueezeFactor)
60 GOTO 30

It's a Vicious Cycle. The question is, does this reach a stable equilibrium or does it decay to zero, and if so, how fast.
  

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rest wrote on Oct 23rd, 2013 at 1:00pm:
No way that guy is a dev. It's been proven over and over and over and over and over that they don't play the game at the same level as even an average player. No one as clueless as what we've seen from the devs could ever make a post like that.

If I'm wrong, I'll eat a pizza.


I'll accept that challenge with you.  Though, I might just eat pizza anyway...
  

 
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Flav wrote on Oct 23rd, 2013 at 2:08pm:
Just to kill the Dev rumor, because I don't think it's a dev...

Fading Suns is an old PnP Game ( it doesn't qualify to old old old as it's a 90'ish game ).



Derived from the video game, by the same name, I believe.

Though, it may have been just a straight up fiction before it was a video game.  I loved that game, and lost lots of hours in it.
  

 
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