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Is this even close? (wis monk)
Nov 11th, 2013 at 7:31pm
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Hi. It is impossible for me to read. Therefore I supply this post.

If it is hard for you to read too here is a feat list and starting ability score:

Feats: 16m/2f/2d (dwarf)
Power attack / Cleave - M
Stunning Fist - M
Rogue active PL - D
Light path(or dark who knows  Cheesy) - M
Empower healing - M
TWF - F
Imp Sunder - M
Great Cleave - M
iTWF - F
imp. crit blunt - M
gTWF - M
toughness - M

Ability Score:
15 Str
14 Dex (+3 tome)
14 Con
18 Wis (levelups here).

I skipped over Overwhelming critical because I don't think I can reach 23str at all without dropping some wisdom or con.

Please. Help the illiterate. I need you. I don't want you. I NEED you.

obv u20 build because I heard the wis monks were good and I have a shit toon that needs to be something else.


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[u][b]Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 03.16.01[/b][/u]
[url=http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO]DDO Character Planner Home Page[/url]

Level 21 Lawful Neutral Dwarf Male
(2 Fighter \ 16 Monk \ 2 Druid \ 1 Epic)
Hit Points: 259
Spell Points: 332
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 13
Will: 19

[B]                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
[U](34 Point)[/U]       [U](Level 1)[/U]             [U](Level 21)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=silver]Strength             15                    15
Dexterity            14                    17
Constitution         14                    14
Intelligence          8                     8
Wisdom               18                    23
Charisma              6                     6[/COLOR]

[B][U]Tomes Used[/U][/B]
[COLOR=silver]+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 6
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
[/COLOR]
[B]                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
[U]Skills[/U]           [U](Level 1)[/U]            [U](Level 21)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=silver]Balance               2                     9
Bluff                -2                     0
Concentration         2                     4
Diplomacy            -2                     0
Disable Device       n/a                    n/a
Haggle               -2                     0
Heal                  4                     8
Hide                  2                     5
Intimidate           -2                     0
Jump                  2                     4
Listen                4                     8
Move Silently         2                     5
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair               -1                     1
Search               -1                     3
Spot                  4                     8
Swim                  2                     4
Tumble                n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device     n/a                    0
[/COLOR]
[B][U]Level 1 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Cleave[/COLOR]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Past Life) Past Life: Rogue[/COLOR]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Monk Bonus) Power Attack[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 2 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 3 (Druid)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Past Life: Sneak of Shadows[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 4 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 5 (Monk)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 6 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Empower Healing Spell[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 7 (Fighter)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Fighter Bonus) Two Weapon Fighting[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 8 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Monk Bonus) Improved Sunder[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 9 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Great Cleave[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 10 (Monk)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 11 (Fighter)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Weapon Fighting[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 12 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 13 (Monk)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 14 (Monk)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 15 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Greater Two Weapon Fighting[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 16 (Monk)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 17 (Monk)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 18 (Monk)[/U][/B]
[COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Toughness[/COLOR]


[B][U]Level 19 (Monk)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 20 (Druid)[/U][/B]


[B][U]Level 21 (Druid)[/U][/B]
  
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Re: Is this even close? (wis monk)
Reply #1 - Nov 11th, 2013 at 8:00pm
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don't export the character planner here, copy paste what you see in the export here.

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I skipped over Overwhelming critical because I don't think I can reach 23str at all without dropping some wisdom or con.


Then drop wis or con.
  
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Re: Is this even close? (wis monk)
Reply #2 - Nov 11th, 2013 at 8:41pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Nov 11th, 2013 at 8:00pm:
Then drop wis or con.


BUT HE WON'T HAVE MAX WISDOM THEN AND HE'LL BE GIMP.
  
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Re: Is this even close? (wis monk)
Reply #3 - Nov 11th, 2013 at 8:54pm
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HE'S GOT MAX WIS AND HE'S STILL GIMP.
  
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PM Epoch For Details. Or, in case you don't already know, OnePercenter controls the Exploits Board. Lastly, if you're truly desperate, Vendui Tells Everyone
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Re: Is this even close? (wis monk)
Reply #4 - Nov 11th, 2013 at 9:22pm
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OC IS MAYBE 5% DMG INCREASE WITH GOOD WEAPONS, MUST BE EVEN LESS WITH SHITTY WRAPS PROFILE.
WHY WOULD YOU GIMP WIS ?
  
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Re: Is this even close? (wis monk)
Reply #5 - Nov 11th, 2013 at 9:27pm
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Wipe wrote on Nov 11th, 2013 at 9:22pm:
OC IS MAYBE 5% DMG INCREASE WITH GOOD WEAPONS, MUST BE EVEN LESS WITH SHITTY WRAPS PROFILE.
WHY WOULD YOU GIMP WIS ?


Because I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.
« Last Edit: Nov 11th, 2013 at 9:29pm by Munkenmo »  
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Re: Is this even close? (wis monk)
Reply #6 - Nov 11th, 2013 at 9:35pm
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I'M ONLY HERE TO SHOUT WORDS
  
Two sips from the cup of human kindness and I'm shitfaced
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Re: Is this even close? (wis monk)
Reply #7 - Nov 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm
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WHY ARE YOU ALL RIPPING OFF MY SHOUTING?
  
OnePercenter wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 9:41am:
I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27th, 2014 at 2:09am:
It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity.
Even against donuts.
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Re: Is this even close? (wis monk)
Reply #8 - Nov 11th, 2013 at 10:36pm
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Epoch wrote on Nov 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:
WHY ARE YOU ALL RIPPING OFF MY SHOUTING?

WHO DO YOU BLAME EPOCH???
  
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Reply #9 - Nov 11th, 2013 at 10:51pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Nov 11th, 2013 at 9:27pm:
Because I've forgotten more than you'll ever know.


YOU MEAN ABOUT OTTOBOXING OR HOW TO GET BANNED ?
PLEASE ELABORATE !!!
  
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Reply #10 - Nov 11th, 2013 at 10:58pm
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Epoch wrote on Nov 11th, 2013 at 10:04pm:
WHY ARE YOU ALL RIPPING OFF MY SHOUTING?



I GIVE IN TO PEER PRESSURE EASILY
  
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Re: Is this even close? (wis monk)
Reply #11 - Nov 11th, 2013 at 11:25pm
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Arkat wrote on Nov 11th, 2013 at 10:36pm:
WHO DO YOU BLAME EPOCH???


I BLAME YOUR PARENTS
  
OnePercenter wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 9:41am:
I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27th, 2014 at 2:09am:
It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity.
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Re: Is this even close? (wis monk)
Reply #12 - Nov 11th, 2013 at 11:26pm
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Starkjade wrote on Nov 11th, 2013 at 10:58pm:
I GIVE IN TO PEER PRESSURE EASILY


YOU SHOULD BLAME YOUR PARENTS
  
OnePercenter wrote on May 15th, 2014 at 9:41am:
I just read that the cat followed up by visiting the dog house later that night, dropping some Willie Pete in on the sleeping dog.  #epochsfamiliarFTW

Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Jan 27th, 2014 at 2:09am:
It seems like Epoch never loses his popularity.
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Reply #13 - Nov 11th, 2013 at 11:48pm
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Epoch wrote on Nov 11th, 2013 at 11:26pm:
YOU SHOULD BLAME YOUR PARENTS



YOU DO IT FIRST
  
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Re: Is this even close? (wis monk)
Reply #14 - Nov 12th, 2013 at 2:12am
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Wipe wrote on Nov 11th, 2013 at 9:22pm:
OC IS MAYBE 5% DMG INCREASE WITH GOOD WEAPONS, MUST BE EVEN LESS WITH SHITTY WRAPS PROFILE.

This doesn't make sense on a number of levels.

OC doesn't care for the crit profile of the weapon it's affecting. It adds one additional heap of base damage and seeker on a confirmed crit on a 19 and 20. This happens with all the weapons, be it an eSoS, Cleaver, a Heavy Pick or Handwraps.

Because of this, weapons/attacks with a high base damage, but with a mediocre crit profile have a greater benefit from OC than those which have a mediocre base damage, but a good crit profile. Handwraps on Monks with their high die step, full str bonus with their offhand attacks and an EarthIII-induced crit profile of 19-20x4 (which translates to 27*base damage + 8*seeker over 20 hits, assuming hitting on a 2) clearly are in the first category. With OC, this translates to 29*base damage + 10*seeker. Ignoring the seeker part, it's actually an increase of 7%.

High Base damage -> better absolute bonus; Bad Crit Profile -> better relative bonus.
  
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Reply #15 - Nov 12th, 2013 at 3:04am
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aDifferentHandle wrote on Nov 12th, 2013 at 2:12am:
This doesn't make sense on a number of levels.

OC doesn't care for the crit profile of the weapon it's affecting. It adds one additional heap of base damage and seeker on a confirmed crit on a 19 and 20. This happens with all the weapons, be it an eSoS, Cleaver, a Heavy Pick or Handwraps.

Because of this, weapons/attacks with a high base damage, but with a mediocre crit profile have a greater benefit from OC than those which have a mediocre base damage, but a good crit profile. Handwraps on Monks with their high die step, full str bonus with their offhand attacks and an EarthIII-induced crit profile of 19-20x4 (which translates to 27*base damage + 8*seeker over 20 hits, assuming hitting on a 2) clearly are in the first category. With OC, this translates to 29*base damage + 10*seeker. Ignoring the seeker part, it's actually an increase of 7%.

High Base damage -> better absolute bonus; Bad Crit Profile -> better relative bonus.



WHY ARE YOU NOT SHOUTING? ARE YOU NOT PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE VAULT?

ALSO STOP TRYING TO CONFUSE US WITH YOUR LOGIC.
  
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Reply #16 - Nov 12th, 2013 at 3:19am
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WHY ARE YOU NOT SHOUTING? ARE YOU NOT PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE VAULT?

ALSO STOP TRYING TO CONFUSE US WITH YOUR LOGIC.


"US"? Why are you using the royal "we"?

Dumbass!
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DDOcrackhead wrote on Nov 12th, 2013 at 3:19am:
"US"? Why are you using the royal "we"?

Dumbass!

HE'S GERMAN, LEAVE HIM THE FUCK ALONE!
  
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DDOcrackhead wrote on Nov 12th, 2013 at 3:19am:
"US"? Why are you using the royal "we"?

Dumbass!


ABF, THIS PEASANT NO LONGER AMUSES US! OFF WITH IT'S HEAD!
  
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ABF, THIS PEASANT NO LONGER AMUSES US! OFF WITH IT'S HEAD!


YOU STILL HAVE THAT GAS CHAMBER IN YOUR BASEMENT, RIGHT?
  
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NOTdarth wrote on Nov 12th, 2013 at 5:24am:
YOU STILL HAVE THAT GAS CHAMBER IN YOUR BASEMENT, RIGHT?



WHY YES, THEY SHOULD STILL BE THERE BUT THEY ARE UNUSED FOR ALMOST 70 YEARS, WE DOUBT THEY ARE STILL WORKING. WE THINK IT WOULD BE EASIER JUST TO OFF WITH IT'S HEAD!
  
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WHY ARE YOU NOT SHOUTING? ARE YOU NOT PASSIONATE ABOUT YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE VAULT?

ALSO STOP TRYING TO CONFUSE US WITH YOUR LOGIC.

FUCK YOU. I THOUGHT ABOUT APOLOGIZING FOR NOT CAPSLOCKING, BUT I RECKONED IT WAS RUDE ENOUGH NOT TO CHIME IN WITH THAT SHOUTING.

NO, I AM NOT CANADIAN.
  
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Reply #22 - Nov 12th, 2013 at 7:28am
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aDifferentHandle wrote on Nov 12th, 2013 at 7:14am:
NO, I AM NOT CANADIAN.


YOU SHOULD BLAME YOUR PARENTS FOR THAT!
  
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YES IT SURE YELPS LIKE A CANADIAN, EVEN IF IT IS NOT IT SURE LOST IT'S GERMAN MEMBERSHIP CARD.

OFF WITH IT'S HEAD TOO!
  
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I HAVE A BONERATION IN MY EYE SOMEONE GET IT OUT WITH A KETCHUP MACHINE
  
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