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naarwen Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 48 Joined: Sep 9^th, 2013	a really nice pure sorcerer? Mar 15^th, 2014 at 11:58pm	Print Post
	Ok, so I got my main to her 6th life, I was thinking druid but dunnno why changed my mind went sorc again, past lives are as below 1st life - Sorcerer 2nd life - Sorcerer 3rd life - Wizard 4th life - Wizard 5th Favored Soul 6th (current) sorcerer I've just true reincarnated, sitting at sorc lvl 4 now and having fun, but chugging an awful lot of cure serious pot to solo harbor elites to lvl 4. questions stats are str 8 dex 10 con 16 int 10 wis 8 cha 20 So, I want some ubber dps caster thingy when I get to epic. I dunno if I stay pure, if I splash, what feats to take, specially the feats!! I have no idea which ones to take if I go pure since my choices are limited and for fun and flavor purpose this toon is a female drow since her first life and always will be. thank you to whomever helps me!


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #1 - Mar 16^th, 2014 at 2:21am	Print Post
	TL;DR version currently you've got : a level 4 Drow sorc, with 2sorc/wiz & 1fvs pastlives. you want a pure - predominately sorc build to play for epic levels, that has low resource consumption in heroic.
	« Last Edit: Mar 16^th, 2014 at 2:26am by Munkenmo »
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #2 - Mar 16^th, 2014 at 2:51am	Print Post
	Answer: splash & play shiradi. Either a 18sorc/2fvs or a 16sorc/2fvs/2pal. If you do go 16/2/2 I wouldn't pick up the fvs levels till 19/20, but you could pick up 2paladin levels after getting Acid blast. If you go 18/2fvs, stay pure sorc till 18. Leveling feats: Maximise, Empower, Sorc life life, Quicken, Heighten, Mental Toughness, Improved Mental Toughness In epic levels swap out heighten for the Wiz past life. In heroic levels, Spam Web and Meta'd Acid blasts like your life depends on it. Once mobs start saving vs your webs turn on heighten.

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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #3 - Mar 16^th, 2014 at 4:17am	Print Post
	Pure air, cold secondary, with heavy enchant focus. Splashes are retarded on non Shiradi.


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NOTdarth Puppy Farmer Offline Save the Planet, Kill Yourself Posts: 1495 Joined: Oct 15^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #4 - Mar 16^th, 2014 at 9:44pm	Print Post
	Because scrolling down is hard. http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1393935333


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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #5 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 5:20am	Print Post
	Whichever splash you take, make your main ED shiradi and spam mm is all you gotta do Rest of the route (draconic or magister for instakill) require careful planning or a lot of gear and PLs.

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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #6 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 5:38am	Print Post
	froggy wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 5:20am: Whichever splash you take, make your main ED shiradi and spam mm is all you gotta do Rest of the route (draconic or magister for instakill) require careful planning or a lot of gear and PLs. Wouldn't being a shiradi give your target random chance of uber rage effects and that arti shield thing?

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Mokune Shroud Slacker Offline Gimped Hairless Ape Posts: 1115 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2011	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #7 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 8:53am	Print Post
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Mokune Shroud Slacker Offline Gimped Hairless Ape Posts: 1115 Joined: Nov 16^th, 2011	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #8 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 9:01am	Print Post
	I would reallocate a point from Con or Cha (which should give 4 build points unless I'm mistake) into Int and possibly pick up Insightful Reflexes + gives more Skill Points to Pump into UMD, Concentration, Spellcraft, Balance and even Heal to a lesser extent to get a lil more out of cocoon.

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NOTdarth Puppy Farmer Offline Save the Planet, Kill Yourself Posts: 1495 Joined: Oct 15^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #9 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 10:12am	Print Post
	Let me give you a little hint: With the new gear a sorc can reach a DC of 65. Held mobs get 50% more damage. Sense Weakness provides a bit more. I'll let you connect the dots. Besides, shiradi is boring�


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naarwen Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 48 Joined: Sep 9^th, 2013	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #10 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 4:36pm	Print Post
	as for the 16/2/2 splash is it really a good idea to miss out on all 9th level spell altogether? and for a 18/2, besides some self healing I gain access to only 1 lvl 9th spell... are they that unimportant in end game?


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #11 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 5:00pm	Print Post
	naarwen wrote on Mar 17^th, 2014 at 4:36pm: as for the 16/2/2 splash is it really a good idea to miss out on all 9th level spell altogether? and for a 18/2, besides some self healing I gain access to only 1 lvl 9th spell... are they that unimportant in end game? It depends on your build. For a shiradi caster, pwk and meteorswarm are the only worth while level 9 spells. You could easily make do without both though.
	« Last Edit: Mar 17^th, 2014 at 5:00pm by Munkenmo »
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kierg10 Shroud Slacker Offline Cuddly wuddly cats Posts: 1039 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #12 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 9:26pm	Print Post
	My only problem with my sorc is I don't have the heart to farm out the new gear (I really don't want to have to do 50 runs to get enough phlogiston), so I can't reach that tasty 65 DC But yeah, pure human sorc ftw.

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kierg10 Shroud Slacker Offline Cuddly wuddly cats Posts: 1039 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #13 - Mar 17^th, 2014 at 9:29pm	Print Post
	As soon as I'm done with my colours of the queen ePLs I am going back to my draconic, and if I spec it up and get the proper gear I should be able to reach 60 hold DC (64 if I farmed out the new gear), and that is without having bard past life, wizard past life, or being drow (which could bring it up to 67). Of course my cha calculation includes +3 cha from action surge charisma.......but that is well worth using if you're massholding/ebursting large groups of mobs. For now I shall bore myself to death in shitardi champignon.

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Booooga Dragon Raider Offline Drama? What's drama? Posts: 258 Location: In teh nose Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #14 - Mar 18^th, 2014 at 1:08am	Print Post
	Shiradi's the only choice if you don't want to farm rare gear. I'd suggest 12/6/2 sorc/pal/rog for max survivability. Put everything in cha, twist cocoon and you're set


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AtomicMew Horoluth Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 2073 Joined: Jan 12^th, 2011	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #15 - Mar 20^th, 2014 at 8:21pm	Print Post
	Booooga wrote on Mar 18^th, 2014 at 1:08am: Shiradi's the only choice if you don't want to farm rare gear. I'd suggest 12/6/2 sorc/pal/rog for max survivability. Put everything in cha, twist cocoon and you're set Erm....


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tachyon Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 369 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2013	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #16 - Mar 20^th, 2014 at 9:01pm	Print Post
	Booooga wrote on Mar 18^th, 2014 at 1:08am: Shiradi's the only choice if you don't want to farm rare gear. I'd suggest 12/6/2 sorc/pal/rog for max survivability. Put everything in cha, twist cocoon and you're set PLEASE enlighten me on this rare gear statement everyone seems to be spewing out like trash. This is completely irrelevant. Yeah with Shiradi you can run around naked and still be effective, but it is seriously not as hard to gear a toon as you claim it is. And 2 rogue splash? lel.
	« Last Edit: Mar 20^th, 2014 at 9:03pm by tachyon »

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Booooga Dragon Raider Offline Drama? What's drama? Posts: 258 Location: In teh nose Joined: Mar 17^th, 2014 Gender:	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #17 - Mar 20^th, 2014 at 9:38pm	Print Post
	tachyon wrote on Mar 20^th, 2014 at 9:01pm: PLEASE enlighten me on this rare gear statement everyone seems to be spewing out like trash. This is completely irrelevant. Yeah with Shiradi you can run around naked and still be effective, but it is seriously not as hard to gear a toon as you claim it is. And 2 rogue splash? lel. I've heard enough PMs bitching in game about "farming all that rare gear and mobs still save on EE." So... Might not be as hard to "gear it", but it's more of a sum of all the factors. You have to max your core stat, have to waste feats to get more spell dcs, waste feats to get more spell pen, etc... Wanna multiclass? Fuck you. So in the end, you get a toon that has no evasion, minimum prr, minimum dodge... whose survivability in EE is highly questionable. Wanna write a guide to endgame dc caster? Stick a flag up your ass, go ahead, prove me wrong. DC casters suck now.� PS Yea, monk instead of rogue. Forgot they get 2 free feats, even though they become uncentered while wearing orb/shield.


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tachyon Titan Demolisher Offline Posts: 369 Joined: Jun 28^th, 2013	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #18 - Mar 20^th, 2014 at 10:20pm	Print Post
	Booooga wrote on Mar 20^th, 2014 at 9:38pm: I've heard enough PMs bitching in game about "farming all that rare gear and mobs still save on EE." So... Might not be as hard to "gear it", but it's more of a sum of all the factors. You have to max your core stat, have to waste feats to get more spell dcs, waste feats to get more spell pen, etc... Wanna multiclass? Fuck you. So in the end, you get a toon that has no evasion, minimum prr, minimum dodge... whose survivability in EE is highly questionable. Wanna write a guide to endgame dc caster? Stick a flag up your ass, go ahead, prove me wrong. DC casters suck now.� PS Yea, monk instead of rogue. Forgot they get 2 free feats, even though they become uncentered while wearing orb/shield. Not talking about utility in endgame. Just gearing. Which is not as hard as people make it out to be.


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NOTdarth Puppy Farmer Offline Save the Planet, Kill Yourself Posts: 1495 Joined: Oct 15^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #19 - Mar 21^st, 2014 at 3:43am	Print Post
	Booooga wrote on Mar 20^th, 2014 at 9:38pm: I've heard enough PMs bitching in game about "farming all that rare gear and mobs still save on EE." So... Might not be as hard to "gear it", but it's more of a sum of all the factors. You have to max your core stat, have to waste feats to get more spell dcs, waste feats to get more spell pen, etc... Wanna multiclass? Fuck you.So in the end, you get a toon that has no evasion, minimum prr, minimum dodge... whose survivability in EE is highly questionable.Wanna write a guide to endgame dc caster? Stick a flag up your ass, go ahead, prove me wrong. DC casters suck now. PS Yea, monk instead of rogue. Forgot they get 2 free feats, even though they become uncentered while wearing orb/shield. I'll start with a couple of facts: 1. you're a retard 2. you have no fucking idea if DC casters work or not 3. you have no idea about endgame - protip: you don't need saves, evasion, maxed out dodge nor insane PRR (though having them is nice) 4. i'm not gonna bother trying to prove you wrong because 5. you're a fucking retard


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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #20 - Mar 21^st, 2014 at 3:53am	Print Post
	NOTdarth wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 3:43am: I'll start with a couple of facts: 1. you're a retard 2. you have no fucking idea if DC casters work or not 3. you have no idea about endgame - protip: you don't need saves, evasion, maxed out dodge nor insane PRR (though having them is nice) 4. i'm not gonna bother trying to prove you wrong because 5. you're a fucking retard ... Someone needs to play better, eh? Needing max dodge, PRR, evasion, 2k hp, godmode on and several siberys spirit cakes to run EE content... let me guess... Is Booga Icywave?

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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4363 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #21 - Mar 21^st, 2014 at 4:38am	Print Post
	NOTdarth wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 3:43am: 3. you have no idea about endgame - protip: you don't need saves, evasion, maxed out dodge nor insane PRR (though having them is nice) You're wrong. He DOES need those.

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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #22 - Mar 21^st, 2014 at 4:42am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 4:38am: You're wrong.� He DOES need those. Toldya! He's either Icywave or Desolator or Stoddard. The similarities are just too much to ignore.

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Wipe VoD Slasher Offline Posts: 1917 Joined: Mar 26^th, 2012 Gender:	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #23 - Mar 21^st, 2014 at 6:28am	Print Post
	Why the hate ? If they want evasion and pally splash, it's their choice. You don't get a cookie just because you play pure fleshie. Most people can't get it to work because they lack the twitch skills and experience. How many shitty barbarians or rangers are there ? Then there are few that just blow your mind. There is small difference between shitty and awesome Shiradi with godly saves as cushion for mistakes. But everybody notices badly played/squishy DC fleshie sorc or Palemaster. But from reading some posts how their DC casters don't work it would seem like they are too lazy or just suck donkey balls.


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kierg10 Shroud Slacker Offline Cuddly wuddly cats Posts: 1039 Joined: Feb 8^th, 2013 Gender:	Re: a really nice pure sorcerer? Reply #24 - Mar 21^st, 2014 at 11:53am	Print Post
	NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Mar 21^st, 2014 at 3:53am: ... Someone needs to play better, eh? Needing max dodge, PRR, evasion, 2k hp, godmode on and several siberys spirit cakes to run EE content... let me guess... Is Booga Icywave? LOL on my pure fleshy sorc I play EEs with minimal deaths (like 1 or two times in about 6-8 quests, if I am not having really bad luck......), and I have about 20 PRR, 8% dodge, 600 HPs, and no saves lol.....

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