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Bard, 15-20 x4
Mar 21st, 2014 at 3:19am
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Realized with any maul in game, a barbarian can use any generated maul (20) x3 in game and turn it into 15-20 x4.

Get an "increased" threat range using pulverizer.  17-20 with that, then +2 from a barb enhancement.  Then you can also get the universal +1 multiplier using that frenzied berzerker enhancement....with these numbers barbs might become DPS again :3 (and maybe comparable to AAs once they get the nerf hammer)

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Reply #1 - Mar 21st, 2014 at 3:22am
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froggy wrote on Mar 21st, 2014 at 3:19am:
Realized with any maul in game, a barbarian can use any generated maul (20) x3 in game and turn it into 15-20 x4.

Get an "increased" threat range using pulverizer.  17-20 with that, then +2 from a barb enhancement.  Then you can also get the universal +1 multiplier using that frenzied berzerker enhancement....with these numbers barbs might become DPS again :3 (and maybe comparable to AAs once they get the nerf hammer)

Just posting because I want some input.



Barbarians will always have their place in the game.

How else would rogues find random traps without barbarian soulstones marking them?
  

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Reply #2 - Mar 21st, 2014 at 3:27am
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I always have a special place reserved for barbs that join my group!
  

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Reply #3 - Mar 21st, 2014 at 3:46am
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Why does the thread topic says Bard then?
  
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Reply #4 - Mar 21st, 2014 at 3:48am
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Prolly because bards are a lot more useful these days  Wink
  

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NOTdarth wrote on Mar 21st, 2014 at 3:27am:
I always have a special place reserved for barbs that join my group!



Backpack?
  

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Reply #6 - Mar 21st, 2014 at 3:50am
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Sim-Sala-Bim wrote on Mar 21st, 2014 at 3:46am:
Why does the thread topic says Bard then?


Cuz barbarians can't sing.

They can Hate, though.
  

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NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Mar 21st, 2014 at 3:49am:
Backpack?

How'd you guess?  Shocked
  

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Reply #8 - Mar 21st, 2014 at 4:05am
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NOTdarth wrote on Mar 21st, 2014 at 3:59am:
How'd you guess?  Shocked


I play rogues. We should have a special little bag for soulstones. And a medium bag for barbarian soulstones.

  

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Reply #9 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 2:20pm
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is there any way to use 5 levels of Barb to increase the DPS of a DPS build? Or is that impossible because you don't get monk?

There looks to be some good damage in FB
  
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Reply #10 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 2:25pm
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can a BF barb recon (Communion) while raged?
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Reply #11 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 2:42pm
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 2:25pm:
can a BF barb recon (Communion) while raged?



Also wondering about this.... haven't seen any BF barbarians running around though. Just the LR + alignment change is enough to keep me away from that idea lol
  
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Reply #12 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 5:34pm
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The FB enhancements only work on 19-20 regardless of description.  Tested on ML and Live during enhancement pass by multiple people including myself.
  
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Reply #13 - Mar 22nd, 2014 at 11:40pm
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Go for it and give us some feedback.
  
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Reply #14 - Mar 23rd, 2014 at 5:45pm
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Frenzied Berserkers get total of +3 crit multiplier only on 19-20 rolls. So does work OC and Devastating critical from LD.

You would have with pulverizer 17-18/x3 and 19-20/x8, since pulverizer applies before IC.

I have a FB with eSoS and tier2 thunderforged falchion, DPS wise they are slightly better than monkensais though much more vulnerable. Barbarians if built correctly do the best melee DPS but they are usually not so resilient like some other melee types...

... Still very fun to play  Smiley .
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Reply #15 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 2:32am
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woops, I ment to say barb in the title :3  oh well, post count awayyyyyyyyy
  

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moar hate
  

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Reply #17 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 3:06am
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Just build barbarians well.

Not every barbarian is a Shade barbarian who can do AWESOMZERS!!!1!1!!! dps if, and only if, the 11 other people in the raid are supporting him and not doing anything else.


And even though I loath most barbarian players - I have a barbarian, too. She's a halfling. Acrobat.

My Acrobarbling.
  

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Reply #18 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 10:29am
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ew, halfing barb ew.
  

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Reply #19 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 10:38am
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froggy wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 10:29am:
ew, halfing barb ew.


The squeak they make while raging is absolutely awesome.
The huge hate generation is an extra bonus.
  
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Reply #20 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:24pm
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barb increased crit range when raged in Ravager works fine I tested it on a TR life the other day. Only barbarian rage works tho, spell cast does not trigger the increase.

Critical Rage: Increases your critical threat range by 1/2 when raging.
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Reply #21 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:32pm
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harharharhar wrote on Apr 3rd, 2014 at 12:24pm:
barb increased crit range when raged in Ravager works fine I tested it on a TR life the other day. Only barbarian rage works tho, spell cast does not trigger the increase.

Critical Rage: Increases your critical threat range by 1/2 when raging.


Good to know, now to test if that stacks with pulverizer in LD tree  Roll Eyes  that'd be very nice.

Pulveriser used to act like the kensai tree and give 2 additional crit ranges instead of one if you got imp crit bludgeoning.

I'm interested to see how and if they stack....I'll roll a barb and see what crit range I get.

Another interesting idea would to just use a falcion, and get a 15-20 range with a x3 Smiley  I guess we'll see....that would be nice though, since none of the thunderforged items have an increased crit range/multiplier
  

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Reply #22 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 1:27pm
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shithole DDO forums are crock of shit most the time but you could have learned that Mornh Ravager barbie in LD crits on 13.
  
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Reply #23 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 1:56pm
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harharharhar wrote on Mar 22nd, 2014 at 2:20pm:
is there any way to use 5 levels of Barb to increase the DPS of a DPS build? Or is that impossible because you don't get monk?

There looks to be some good damage in FB



I tried. 12 fighter/6 barb/2 druid (for doublestrike action boost. it sucks because you can't use DS and haste boost at the same time) and the dps is still pretty meh. I mean it's great I can hit 76 str, but my stunning blow still sucks. My centered Mornh guy does more damage. Hell I think my rogue/ranger/monk does more damage with celestias. Smaller crits, but way more often. Plus lightsabres.

I could switch the druid over to FvS or Cleric for divine might and it could help, but being raged means you have to chug SF pots to heal. Which sucks. I was using the axe from CITW to pair with that tier 6 axe thing in LD. Still not worth it. I'm trying to decide what to do with him. He has an eSOS in the bank, but I wanted to try the axe thing. Maybe someone better than me at building could do something with it. Or I could try harder. We'll see. But as of right now, you're better off going another way than barb.
  
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Reply #24 - Apr 3rd, 2014 at 2:12pm
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I have the Cetus at cap that I really don't play.
I don't know why.

Since I need something to do, thinking of either something silly like 15 pally/2mnk/3fighter solely for the EE Wyrm or Mornh 12 barbie/4 rogue/4fvs Maddmatt's build.
Maybe even drow for laughs, but I think that way "enjoyment of flavour" < inherent gimpiness.
You can't have Keen Edge and barbie crit stuff at the same time, for tactis you have to have DM.
Dual 13 - 20 Mornh with Ear Smash and Anvil in LD sounds fun, I don't know.
I am just little scared of SF pots only. 
  
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