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Re: Sorc Endgame evocation dc
Reply #25 - Apr 19th, 2014 at 6:59pm
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It is bad, 67 in EE vs fort save isn't worth the twist.

I take back what I said sorry Lelouch, you're totally correct.

  

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Re: Sorc Endgame evocation dc
Reply #26 - Apr 19th, 2014 at 7:13pm
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It sucks ironically for "target audience", like divine caster in EA.
Can self buff to 74 or so evo.
So that's 60 spell point 74 DC
Or            6 spell point 67 DC.

Can get some use in GH or whatever but not worth 3 ED points permanently for already " decent" caster.
  
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Reply #27 - Apr 19th, 2014 at 7:35pm
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Lelouch wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 4:07pm:
Cools, there are people here who play ee.
You got prety impresive dc for a cleric, wondering how high you could get with druid for sburst.
Counting in icy mantle and shaken debuffs from storm of veng.

Could maybe be viable to use sburst/cold burst as druid.
Something like 18 druid 2 monk drow or human or whatever


energy burst is cha\int, not WIS. So your DC will be awful. 18 druid gives you extra spells at 8 and 9 you don't necessarily need, and SoV SLA which is meh. I rather have an extra feat from taking 1 wizard (plus free invis  Smiley)

The only problem with purely casting as a druid is that you don't do any real DPS. Have fun chugging pots just about every quest.
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Re: Sorc Endgame evocation dc
Reply #28 - Apr 19th, 2014 at 11:16pm
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tachyon wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 7:35pm:
energy burst is cha\int, not WIS. So your DC will be awful. 18 druid gives you extra spells at 8 and 9 you don't necessarily need, and SoV SLA which is meh. I rather have an extra feat from taking 1 wizard (plus free invis  Smiley)

The only problem with purely casting as a druid is that you don't do any real DPS. Have fun chugging pots just about every quest.

You still do damage on helpless mobs, aka you get ability to bypass evasion. Lv 9 gives icy mantle, a simple icestorm and they get 4 debuff to fort save for your sburst. In exalted you get the most dcs, so something like equake solid foq clickie fort debuff from magister twisted. storm of vengance, wait for procs to take effect, sburst and then with higher caster level from ele form probably kill.

You could do 17 druid 2 monk 1 wizzy if you rly need that feat, but honestly you dont, rather 2 seperate storm of vengances imo, tho that is debatable, wizzy is ok.

Not saying this is good, but it works out, at least makes druid playable as caster and not making you a quake bot.
Chug pots you say? Which one of those 1000+ we got from event?
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Reply #29 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 3:13am
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Earthquake = helpless?
  
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Re: Sorc Endgame evocation dc
Reply #30 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 3:50am
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nope earthquake doesnt aply helpless state like mass hold and sburst do. But you can combine quake +burst on a druid
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Re: Sorc Endgame evocation dc
Reply #31 - Aug 26th, 2014 at 9:25am
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NOTdarth wrote on Mar 25th, 2014 at 4:51am:
Charisma breakdown:
18 base
02 completionist
07 level ups
05 enchantments
02 capstone
05 tome
01 epic feat
06 epic destiny
11 gear
01 exceptional
03 insightful
01 litany
02 ship
02 yugo

66 CHA - 28 mod


Evo DC breakdown:
28
19
4 feats
2 augment
3 twist
6 dwarwen stick
3 sorc PL
1 enchantment
3 chrono 3 piece

= 69 standing

Now I'm uncertain if Wyrmic Focus will stack in future updates. If it does you can put 2 more on a second stick.

Though I have no idea why the fuck would you go evocation DC on a sorc, makes no fucking sense. If you want to make your evo DC useful, make a fucking druid and earthquake everything.

edit: it's morning and I need more coffee



Where this number - 19 comes from?
  
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Re: Sorc Endgame evocation dc
Reply #32 - Aug 26th, 2014 at 9:57am
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10 + lev 9 spell
  
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Re: Sorc Endgame evocation dc
Reply #33 - Aug 26th, 2014 at 11:19am
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Munkenmo wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 6:59pm:
It is bad, 67 in EE vs fort save isn't worth the twist.


Eh, my druid only has 65 and it seems to be worthwhile because it tends to catch the caster types, while running in with a Howl (only 60DC atm until I can fix my gear) tends to do for the melee types even in Stormhorns...  the trick with a melee/caster druid seems not to be "no-fail", but to spam lots of cheapish AoE's as you charge in, single-target stun anything that's still moving and rely on crazy damage to wipe things out before they can hurt you.

I guess whether or not it's worth the twist very much depends on build and playstyle.

Lelouch wrote on Apr 19th, 2014 at 11:16pm:
You could do 17 druid 2 monk 1 wizzy if you rly need that feat, but honestly you dont


When I did that build as a melee/caster hybrid, I actually found the 1 wis level was equally useful for perma-Shield spell and the AC buff.  Despite what people say, I've found that an AC over 150 generates a significant number of misses  Smiley
  

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