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Reply #25 - Apr 17th, 2014 at 11:04pm
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OneUpGamer wrote on Apr 17th, 2014 at 3:43pm:
Enough with this thread already. Here, I'll put an end to it. Smiley

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-yl4DEUyvqdI/T4NaFxfr9CI/AAAAAAAAA54/4w9yZiROPFQ/s290/t...


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Reply #26 - Apr 18th, 2014 at 6:18am
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eighnuss wrote on Apr 17th, 2014 at 10:36am:
ameritards is one of the most original and effective insults ...

[color=#ff0000]Thank you, thank you. I knew it would be well liked.[/color]


whatever point you were probably accurately making was overlooked in my uncontrollable laughter at your creative word play and textual assault.

[color=#ff00ff]What point? If you find it tell me. But my most enthusiastic contrafibularities to you that you were amused greatly.[/color]



can your next post say "LEL YOUR"E GAY" and then have an image of a pear with a face saying "WUT?" I think that would really take this to next level internet comedy




And to accomodate a hearfelt wish:

LEL YOUR"E GAY

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Reply #27 - Apr 18th, 2014 at 3:07pm
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jaggedmonk wrote on Apr 17th, 2014 at 10:10pm:
We need to report him till he gets the infraction he deserves.

How often do you oppressed posters report Cordo's favorites when they make post similiar to what gets you infractions?



I for one do not report people ... no matter what they say. I will either ignore them outright or defend myself depending on what was said. If that gets me an infraction .. so be it. I don't mind infractions provided I earn them. Problem is, I rarely do earn them...



Instead of reporting .... I would lend you my hat.
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Reply #28 - Apr 19th, 2014 at 8:38am
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The amount of stupid in that thread hurts my thought process .......


NIGGARDLY - if it offends you, congrats, you're one of the dumb fucks who doesn't know language.
  
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Reply #29 - Apr 19th, 2014 at 10:22am
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Memnir wrote on Apr 17th, 2014 at 8:15pm:
Ask them to help you get in contact with a higher-up at Turbine, like a supervisor or head of Public Relations...


I recently tried that after being falsely accused of trolling one of Jerry's Kids. I was redirected to the support page and offered no other recourse. Naturally, I set up a Vault account.

So, fuck you Jerry - With sixteen feet of curare-dipped, rusty barbed wire wrapped around a splinter-encrusted telephone pole, you sanctimonious, bloody cunt fart.

Man, that felt good.  Cheesy


  
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Reply #30 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 2:22am
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So, fuck you Jerry - With sixteen feet of curare-dipped, rusty barbed wire wrapped around a splinter-encrusted telephone pole, you sanctimonious, bloody cunt fart.


This is fucking awesome.  Cool Forum news banner worthy.
  
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Reply #31 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 4:23am
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This is fucking awesome.


So you enjoy getting fucked with sixteen foot, curare-dipped, rusty barbed wire wrapped, splinter-encrusted telephone poles?

Maybe it's just me.  But that one falls gently into the "not so awesome" category with regard to fucking.
  

 
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Reply #32 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 7:05am
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Crunch ButtSteak wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 4:23am:
So you enjoy getting fucked with sixteen foot, curare-dipped, rusty barbed wire wrapped, splinter-encrusted telephone poles?

Maybe it's just me.  But that one falls gently into the "not so awesome" category with regard to fucking.


Its just you.

You are weird.
  
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Reply #33 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 8:50am
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You know iv'e never looked at the word twice or other words or names like it untill I saw that thread, I wouldn't blink if it was was used in its proper context, now maybe that has changed.
  
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Reply #34 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:05am
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NaturalHazard wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 8:50am:
You know iv'e never looked at the word twice or other words or names like it untill I saw that thread, I wouldn't blink if it was was used in its proper context, now maybe that has changed.

Political Correctness is insidious.
  

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Reply #35 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:09am
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Arkat wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:05am:
Political Correctness is insidious.


I think maybe its because I never lived in the united states? My prior obliviousness, but whats next we are going to have to get people to rename their country, their river or whatever? Erase some words from the dictionary? The racist pricks who invented the word are laughing at all of us, where ever they are.
  
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Reply #36 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:18am
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Crunch ButtSteak wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 4:23am:
So you enjoy getting fucked with sixteen foot, curare-dipped, rusty barbed wire wrapped, splinter-encrusted telephone poles?

Maybe it's just me.  But that one falls gently into the "not so awesome" category with regard to fucking.


Wow. Next thing you tell me you don´t masturbate with bricks.

You are sick, man.
  
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Reply #37 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:29am
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Is it a cultural thing? I know quite a few military service people, current and ex and iv'e never gotten the vibe that they think I owe them. Even the ones who I do not know but have met have never seemed to give that impression. The only place iv'e encountered it is online, like on the DDO forums, and in RL with some people from the U.S who where bring drunk and being dicks, harassing the female patrons who I threw out who dropped the whole I served in blah blah you can't treat me like this!!

Though I think they where most likely bsing and I think quite a few people online do the same thing to, bs about military service or whatever for preferential treatment or to act like their opinion means more than someone else's.

sure it might if it was talk about military matters or life in the military because of their experience if they are not lying or making more of it than it actually is. For example they did some boot camp and dropped out then later claim they where in....
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Reply #38 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 3:35pm
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NaturalHazard wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:09am:
I think maybe its because I never lived in the united states? My prior obliviousness, but whats next we are going to have to get people to rename their country, their river or whatever? Erase some words from the dictionary? The racist pricks who invented the word are laughing at all of us, where ever they are.

It sounds like part of it may be a cultural thing.  But honestly, now that you know, it's a good thing that you do right?  I mean you wouldn't wear a Buddhist sun symbol into Germany.  I see this as a "when in rome" and having empathy kind of thing.
  
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Reply #39 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 3:42pm
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Also, it's not like anyone here would actually use this word properly IRL.  Usage has declined 5-10x in a century.  The only synonyms in less popular usage than niggardly are "mingy" and "chintzy"

https://books.google.com/ngrams/interactive_chart?content=miserly%2Cchintzy%2Ccl...
  
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Reply #40 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 4:10pm
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Reply #41 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 6:48pm
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AtomicMew wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 3:35pm:
It sounds like part of it may be a cultural thing.  But honestly, now that you know, it's a good thing that you do right?  I mean you wouldn't wear a Buddhist sun symbol into Germany.  I see this as a "when in rome" and having empathy kind of thing. 


So if there happens to be U.S people around and I need or want to talk about the niger river or the country or whatever how do I find my way around that?

Also im not in the u.s so why should I have to change the language I use? The words have no relation to each other in their formation, I still do not see what the whole big deal is. If it is used in its proper context then there should be no problem. The type of ignorance that spawn racism of that sort is now ironically taking over this line of thinking. I see it as a victory for bad intentions as bad intentions seem to have more power over logic and reason. All we need is for more ignorant and spiteful people to come up with more slurs so that more words can in the future become evil words.

If I had seen the real N word I would of had a totally different reaction.
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Reply #42 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 7:38pm
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NaturalHazard wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 6:48pm:
So if there happens to be U.S people around and I need or want to talk about the niger river or the country or whatever how do I find my way around that?

The correct usage is to pretend the entire continent does not exist.
  

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Reply #43 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 8:14pm
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Revaulting wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 7:38pm:
The correct usage is to pretend the entire continent does not exist.


whats to bet that white u.s.a people would be in the higher portion of people to be offended about me talking about the niger river? Now my racism is starting to come to the fore. I think that there are some white people who take it on themselves to be offended for the rest of us, like they have to champion us the non-white people and in a way some of the things they do are insulting. Often I find these types rarely have any friends among the people they are trying to save or whatever and a lot of it is just grandstanding trying to win brownie points.

In fact I find some of the motivations for some of that type of behavior in some to have some racist overtones. Back to the old colonial days where the white people had to take care of the childlike primitive natives who where less advanced. Bunch of tripe, so its more ok for dark people to be less educated and have less knowledge about the english language even if they have been brought up with it being their first language? Why do they believe that is? They think that given equal opportunities we cannot be as successful as  white people? That we are always going to need that paternal white person to always go and hide behind?
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Reply #44 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:36pm
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Racism has depths to it. You're absolutely right that "protecting the poor ignorant darkies" is in those depths.

As to which racially determined group would have more offended individuals in it ... I'm afraid that would probably depend on how the question was phrased in the poll.
  

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Reply #45 - Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:58pm
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Revaulting wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 9:36pm:
As to which racially determined group would have more offended individuals in it ... I'm afraid that would probably depend on how the question was phrased in the poll.


Yeah I guess your right.
  
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Reply #46 - Apr 21st, 2014 at 2:06am
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Natural,

All you can do is try to be culturally sensitive.  It really is a minefield - not just in speech, but actions and body language too.  As a traveler, things we take for granted can be highly offensive to other cultures.

On the flipside, people in other cultures ought to be sensitive that not everyone from other cultures are aware of their cultural norms and expectations.  An example would be knowing and observing the religious principles in Arab countries because those are expected of visitors, but certain hand gestures can have varied meanings in some countries where you may accidentally offend.  Ignoring the former may land you in prison, the second might just require some fast talking/explanation.  Smiley

Of course, some people are reasonable and realize that no slight is intended.  Others, as we know are not.  In these situations, the context of your communication is all that you can point to.  I've had some close calls in my travels!

I never even associated niggardly with the racial slur, despite the visual similarities.  It would be hard to mix up the context of this word in post as they have vastly different meanings.
We just have to be more aware when we leave our fair island bro.  Smiley
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Reply #47 - Apr 21st, 2014 at 2:44am
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NaturalHazard wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 6:48pm:
So if there happens to be U.S people around and I need or want to talk about the niger river or the country or whatever how do I find my way around that?

No, because there's no synonym for that proper noun.  There are tons of more useful synonyms for the word "niggardly" that are less likely to lead to confusion or possibly offend someone.  So even from just a practical point of view of communicating properly, it's better to use a word like "miserly" or "stingy" which everyone knows the meaning for. 

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Also im not in the u.s so why should I have to change the language I use? The words have no relation to each other in their formation, I still do not see what the whole big deal is. If it is used in its proper context then there should be no problem. The type of ignorance that spawn racism of that sort is now ironically taking over this line of thinking. I see it as a victory for bad intentions as bad intentions seem to have more power over logic and reason. All we need is for more ignorant and spiteful people to come up with more slurs so that more words can in the future become evil words.

The OP seems to be defending adamantly that she didn't know anyone would react that way.  I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, but seriously it's extremely hard for me to believe.  As always, it's all about intention. 
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Reply #48 - Apr 21st, 2014 at 3:00am
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NaturalHazard wrote on Apr 20th, 2014 at 6:48pm:
So if there happens to be U.S people around and I need or want to talk about the niger river or the country or whatever how do I find my way around that?

Also im not in the u.s so why should I have to change the language I use? The words have no relation to each other in their formation, I still do not see what the whole big deal is. If it is used in its proper context then there should be no problem. The type of ignorance that spawn racism of that sort is now ironically taking over this line of thinking. I see it as a victory for bad intentions as bad intentions seem to have more power over logic and reason. All we need is for more ignorant and spiteful people to come up with more slurs so that more words can in the future become evil words.

If I had seen the real N word I would of had a totally different reaction.


Big difference between choosing an adjective and using a proper noun ...

Short hop between 'you're being niggardly' and 'stop being a nigger'

Long distance leap between 'It's in Nigeria' and being anything offensive.


Not sure WTF being American has to do with diddly other than you not being one used as an excuse for ignorance.



You could travel Africa and use the word nigger and most wouldn't even know WTF you were talking about. Start calling people cockroaches in Swahili and it would probably get you killed though.

Being an international forum and speaking in English ... it's a fair bet someone from the United Kingdom or the US are reading it ... in both of those countries (and many more) the word nigger is considered offensive. So yeah knowing some general knowledge of who you are addressing is never a bad idea provided you don't want to get killed (or the forum equivalent). If it's an honest mistake /shrug. Change the title and move on.

Defending it is fucking retarded.
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Reply #49 - Apr 21st, 2014 at 7:10am
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Is this P&R?
  
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