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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4338 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #50 - Jun 4^th, 2014 at 9:51pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jun 4^th, 2014 at 9:17pm: Defender stance will not be working with swashbuckler next update. dev posted, read it somewhere on one of the 3 swf/swashbuckler threads Fucking sonofa !@#$!@# edit, my search fu must be weak, i can't find that. edit2* if you're referring to this that's related to disabling power attack, it's not related to the defender stances at all.
	« Last Edit: Jun 4^th, 2014 at 10:00pm by Munkenmo »
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #51 - Jun 4^th, 2014 at 10:16pm	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 4^th, 2014 at 9:51pm: Fucking sonofa !@#$!@# edit, my search fu must be weak, i can't find that. edit2* if you're referring to this that's related to disabling power attack, it's not related to the defender stances at all. No its swashbuckler stance will toggle off defender stance. fuk now i gotta dig through forums. brb Sorta found it. But i was wrong. it curently on lamma turns the other off. And Steelstar said they will be looking into making it not a defensive stance at all next update. so it should be working. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/442989-Best-build-to-use-SWF-Swashbuck...
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #52 - Jun 5^th, 2014 at 7:46pm	Print Post
	Eth confirmed swashbuckler gets dex to hit and damage. No need for Finesse feat. https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php/442989-Best-build-to-use-SWF-Swashbuck...

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Fire Foot Ex Member	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #53 - Jun 5^th, 2014 at 7:57pm	Print Post
	How much do you reckon will change before going live at this point?


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #54 - Jun 5^th, 2014 at 8:14pm	Print Post
	Quote: How much do you reckon will change before going live at this point? idk, i have had like 5 build ideas that all somehow got changed on Lama from one week to next. Hoping it stays pretty close to this. It opens a lot of diversity. Whether you want to play a Bard icon or Swashbuckle with your own flavor. They fixed the weapons to all have equal range and multipliers. Before it was raiper extended range beating everything.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4338 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #55 - Jun 5^th, 2014 at 8:50pm	Print Post
	Perfect, my build will now be a drow

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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #56 - Jun 5^th, 2014 at 9:23pm	Print Post
	You like shuriken expertise for general purpose ranged? I know with swashbuckling it will improve crit specs but it's still junk without 10k and Ninja Master. This is one bastardized build, but I like it.


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4338 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #57 - Jun 5^th, 2014 at 9:53pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Jun 5^th, 2014 at 9:23pm: You like shuriken expertise for general purpose ranged? It'll be better than a bow, I guess I could stay human and pick the feat up, that way maintaining heal amp and damage boost.

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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #58 - Jun 5^th, 2014 at 10:43pm	Print Post
	humans run like they have a hitch in their giddyup hamp and damage boost are nice though. Handaxe blitzer sounds so funny. I wish it could be a battleaxe though, just cuz there are some great graphics for them. what about light mace/hammer? Or dwarf just 'cuz


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #59 - Jun 5^th, 2014 at 10:45pm	Print Post
	and by the way, with the ridiculous amount of damage you have with this build, are you really ever even going to bother with the T5 insta-kill? I doubt it


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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4338 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #60 - Jun 5^th, 2014 at 11:06pm	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Jun 5^th, 2014 at 10:45pm: and by the way, with the ridiculous amount of damage you have with this build, are you really ever even going to bother with the T5 insta-kill? I doubt it I think its worth having, not like any other tree is worth taking to tier 5.

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Trollero Waterworks Kobold Offline Got IDD? Posts: 187 Joined: Feb 1^st, 2014	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #61 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:07am	Print Post
	I keep looking over a 13 Rogue 7 Bard Dex Halfling. Acrobat for knockdown, shadow dodge, defensive roll, haste boost, dex, and no mercy. Tier 5 Swash. Epic reflexes with evasion so I can get opportunist and roll. Nothing offhand. If adrenaline works with PSWF I might Fury. Sap>kill one mob, adrenaline>beatdown next, repeat. Thanks for the sap idea.


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #62 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:59am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 5^th, 2014 at 11:06pm: I think its worth having, not like any other tree is worth taking to tier 5. All the other T5's in that tree are worth the points, ironically, and that's the only one that costs 1ap. Too bad, I think for a DPS build it sort of sucks. Like you're gonna be blitzing, Sap something, and then instakill that thing, and do that every 12 seconds with 10 stacks of blitz. Maybe off destiny or something, but even then I doubt it. You could use it to sneak and move through dungeons quickly tho sapping and murdering only what you have to and fascinating the rest. that would be fun.


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #63 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:02am	Print Post
	Trollero wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:07am: I keep looking over a 13 Rogue 7 Bard Dex Halfling.� Acrobat for knockdown, shadow dodge, defensive roll, haste boost, dex, and no mercy.� Tier 5 Swash.� Epic reflexes with evasion so I can get opportunist and roll.� Nothing offhand.� If adrenaline works with PSWF I might Fury.� Sap>kill one mob, adrenaline>beatdown next, repeat. Thanks for the sap idea. Improved Roll on a good dex build is so awesome. With everything else you'll be so hard to kill.


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #64 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:04am	Print Post
	nope im dumb 2 different t5s
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #65 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:07am	Print Post
	Trollero wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:07am: I keep looking over a 13 Rogue 7 Bard Dex Halfling.� Acrobat for knockdown, shadow dodge, defensive roll, haste boost, dex, and no mercy.� Tier 5 Swash.� Epic reflexes with evasion so I can get opportunist and roll.� Nothing offhand.� If adrenaline works with PSWF I might Fury.� Sap>kill one mob, adrenaline>beatdown next, repeat. Thanks for the sap idea. Take Precision, drop Roll for either Improved Evasion or Slippery Mind. Mind would serve you better unless you planned on Fire on Thunder Peak. Roll is fine, but how many times are you really going to stay at or less than 20% health and in melee range of mobs? Even with Dragon Mark and Cocoon it's wiser to move and jump for position. Most of the time the miss will come from displace and dodge of mid to high 20s. Unless this works on spells that don't have saves like rays? Take doublestrike from swashbuckler, haste boost from LD. Fury is not as good as blitzing. Fury is once every 3 seconds and lasts only 30 seconds. Essentially 15 seconds of adrenaline and full glancing blow damage. It's good for clearing a room or two. Every 5 minutes on a melee. Not as good for the non glancing Swashbuckler. Handaxe getting a boost to crit multiplier. Coupled with such a small time span for the Fury epic moment it falls behind LD totally. In quests where you cant blitz, Divine Crusader is better than Fury too. With doublestrike, healing tick, expanded critical range.
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #66 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:15am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:07am: Roll is fine, but how many times are you really going to stay at or less than 20% health and in melee range of mobs? Even with Dragon mark and Cocoon it's just wiser to move and jump for position. You need to re-read description. Improved Defensive Roll. T4 Acrobat. And it's all physical damage "main damage" so arrows/spears as well that get through. But on a melee character this is PRICELESS. *Edit: on a Dex based Melee it's priceless
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Munkenmo Epic Poster Offline Posts: 4338 Location: A land under down under Joined: Nov 10^th, 2010	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #67 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:18am	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:04am: You know if you did a 15 Rogue / 5 Bard Build you could go Int and chain Assassinate/Coup for double Assassinate attempts on 12/15 Seconds cooldowns. If you keep your dex high enough, you can also run in SD for 3! Assassinate combat abilities. I looked into it that, I couldn't find a way to reasonably maintain both dex and int, I ended up with a 12rogue/5bard/3arti, int only build and picked up SD's implosion (casting insightful strikes and picked up insightful reflexes). Took just enough dex to qualify for epic sneak attack.

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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #68 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:22am	Print Post
	Munkenmo wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:18am: I looked into it that, I couldn't find a way to reasonably maintain both dex and int, I ended up with a 12rogue/5bard/3arti, int only build and picked up SD's implosion (casting insightful strikes and picked up insightful reflexes). Took just enough dex to qualify for epic sneak attack. That could be quite nice but I forgot Assassinate was a T5 also.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #69 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:32am	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:15am: You need to re-read description. Improved Defensive Roll. T4 Acrobat. And it's all physical damage "main damage" so arrows/spears as well that get through. But on a melee character this is PRICELESS. *Edit: on a Dex based Melee it's priceless Wow. It is good at 50% health. The build will be at around 800, staying at 400 ish is perfectly feasible for a 70-80 reflex. That is really good. Arrows arent coming in if youre moving with super duper improved swashbuckler only 2 second Deflect Arrow. Jealous slow 6 second monk is jealous.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Fire Foot Ex Member	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #70 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:46am	Print Post
	Hey! I just thought of something (big surprise I know, yuk yuk yuk) anyway does this mean people will finally stop bitching about monchers and start bitching about OP bards? how funny would that be.


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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #71 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:48am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:32am: Wow. It is good at 50% health. The build will be at around 800, staying at 400 ish is perfectly feasible for a 70-80 reflex. That is really good. Arrows arent coming in if youre moving with super duper improved swashbuckler only 2 second Deflect Arrow. Jealous slow 6 second monk is jealous. Yes. It's not about staying at 400 it's about not caring when you get 400 because your reflex is 80, and your PRR is 80's and your Dodge is 28, and your Displacement is 50%. You even AC as though it matters. It's awesome.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #72 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 4:12am	Print Post
	harharharhar wrote on Jun 6^th, 2014 at 2:48am: Yes. It's not about staying at 400 it's about not caring when you get 400 because your reflex is 80, and your PRR is 80's and your Dodge is 28, and your Displacement is 50%. You even AC as though it matters. It's awesome. Right, i meant staying at 400 is a lot different than 160 for it long enough to proc and not fail. It is really good at 50% health. Thanks for the tips. Im thinking I want to tr into a swashbuckler asap. Let me know if you would change anything to this build. Shadar kai, 13 rogue/5 bard/2 fighter. ( I need the iconic PL dont judge me!)� +5 tomes, all level up into dex. (36 Point)� � (Level 1)� �� (Level 28) Strength� �� 12� �� 17 Dexterity� �� 20� �� 35 Constitution� �� 16� �� 21 Intelligence� �� 10� �� 14 Wisdom� �� 8� �� 13 Charisma� �� 10� �� 15 Level 1 (Rogue) Feat: (Selected) Toughness Level 2 (Rogue) Level 3 (Rogue) Feat: (Selected) Precision Level 4 (Rogue) Level 5 (Rogue) Level 6 (Rogue) Feat: (Selected) SWF Level 7 (Rogue) Level 8 (Rogue) Level 9 (Rogue) Feat: (Selected) ISWF Level 10 (Rogue) Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Defensive Roll Level 11 (Rogue) Level 12 (Rogue) Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons Level 13 (Rogue) Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion Level 14 (Bard) Level 15 (Bard) Feat: (Selected) Shield Mastery Level 16 (Bard) Level 17 (Bard) Level 18 (Bard) Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell Level 19 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery Level 20 (Fighter) Feat: (Fighter Bonus) GSWF Level 21 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Toughness Level 22 (Epic) Level 23 (Epic) Level 24 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse Level 25 (Epic) Level 26 (Epic) Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting Level 27 (Epic) Feat: (Selected) Epic: Improved Sneak Attack Level 28 (Epic) Feat: (Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: PSWF
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #73 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 4:45am	Print Post
	Eth ee break ice. swashbuckler 12 bard 6 fighter 2 rogue http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=028hCEzYbwo

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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harharharhar Epic Poster Offline Girthless Trolllicker Posts: 3421 Joined: Aug 31^st, 2012 Gender:	Re: So...Swashbuckler Reply #74 - Jun 6^th, 2014 at 1:36pm	Print Post
	swashbuckler is looking awesome.


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