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Reply #225 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 7:34pm
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So you are saying now that THF and SWF are on par in their respective roles?

Which means it needs more buffs?
  
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Reply #226 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 7:36pm
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SWF is way more powerful against single targets


Thank you for that cunning insight, Cap. Obvious.
  
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Reply #227 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 7:40pm
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Reply #228 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 7:42pm
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Shadehater wrote on Jul 8th, 2014 at 7:34pm:
So you are saying now that THF and SWF are on par in their respective roles?

Which means it needs more buffs?


This means that I would've said that THF is better than SWF for AoE damage if I would agree that "...they are on par in their respective roles".

THF isn't better than SWF against multiple targets, so no - they aren't on par.

Great reading comprehension there champ.
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Reply #229 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 7:53pm
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NOTdarth wrote on Jul 8th, 2014 at 7:36pm:
Thank you for that cunning insight, Cap. Obvious.


Some things aren't so obvious, so I actually did the test. Is that ok with you?

Besides, a qualitative "better or worse" isn't good enough. I'm interested in the magnitude as well.
  
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Reply #230 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 8:09pm
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This means that I would've said that THF is better than SWF for AoE damage if I would agree that "...they are on par in their respective roles".

THF isn't better than SWF against multiple targets, so no - they aren't on par.

Great reading comprehension there champ.


Ok, so then you were not agreeing with me fuckwad.  You should try that reading thing yourself next time.

I understand being a Shadesson that certain things are difficult for you...like Reading, and Mathing, and apparently logic, but come on man. You could at least prevent making your grammar school teachers want to commit suicide every once and a while.
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Reply #231 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 8:17pm
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Flav wrote on Jul 8th, 2014 at 10:18am:
Rapier end Buckler is relevant... it's a sword and a board...  Roll Eyes


Toothpick and beercoaster does not make S&B :p
  
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Reply #232 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 8:53pm
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So, we get this:

Shadehater wrote on Jul 8th, 2014 at 7:23pm:
So you conceded this point but still think THF is more so much weaker than SWF 


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Shadehater wrote on Jul 8th, 2014 at 8:09pm:
You could at least prevent making your grammar school teachers want to commit suicide every once and a while.


The mind boggles
  
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Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers
Reply #233 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 9:00pm
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Shadehater wrote on Jul 8th, 2014 at 6:14pm:
If only paladins were proficient with tower shields Wink  (though they COULD add it to the tree)


lol I forgot about that, meh just take 2 fighter lvls for free tower shield prof and 2 feats
  
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Reply #234 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 9:45pm
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Dear Cetus, 


Go the fuck away you whining fool.  You have been comprehensively beaten down on this thread and exposed as a dumbass who is just worried his favorite toons are not the most powerful in DDO.

Either shut up and make a SWF toon if your so upset, or shut up and just go back to motherboards.

I mean really, someone, anyone, just give this guy a map home or cab fare, whatever it takes to get the smell of his self-serving bullshit out of here.
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Reply #235 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 9:49pm
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Go the fuck away you whining fool.  You have been comprehensively beaten down on this thread and exposed as a dumbass who is just worried his favorite toons are not the most powerful in DDO.

Either shut up and make a SWF toon if your so upset, or shut up and just go back to motherboards.

I mean really, someone, anyone, just give this guy a map home or cab fare, whatever it takes to get the smell of his self-serving bullshit out of here.


Are you ok? Life has its up and downs, but wow.

I'm not upset - I'm merely collecting data on which I base my opinion. If THF is too weak, it should be buffed. That's it. I'll always be more powerful - I spent 8 years doing that.

On a side note - how come nobody brings up the fact that I supported a SWF **BUFF** after they released the first series of dog shit feats.
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Reply #236 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 11:26pm
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Are you ok? Life has its up and downs, but wow.

I'm not upset - I'm merely collecting data on which I base my opinion. If THF is too weak, it should be buffed. That's it. I'll always be more powerful - I spent 8 years doing that.

On a side note - how come nobody brings up the fact that I supported a SWF **BUFF** after they released the first series of dog shit feats.



Oh do fuck off, after wading through page after page of your self-serving twaddle and bad high school debate team tactics? don't even try your lame "data collecting" we all know what you are about:

"Boo Hoo my epeen isn't biggest anymore"

Because of your transparent whining about your pet project


As to your side note missy, you "supported" a SWF **BUFF** as long as THF stayed supreme, the moment it even got close to your baby you squealed, anyone who suffered through your endless bullshit on the mother boards saw that. You stupid transparent self inflated cunt.


Now somebody, for the love of god give this scum-guzzling gutter toad enough bus fare so we can get his sorry as back to "his supporters"
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Reply #237 - Jul 8th, 2014 at 11:30pm
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this scum-guzzling gutter


What's a scum guzzler? I need to know...
  
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Reply #238 - Jul 9th, 2014 at 12:36am
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What's a scum guzzler? I need to know...


I guess its a jersey shore slang, alot of retarded kids in this thread.
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Re: Cetus Needs To Stop Wetting His Diapers
Reply #239 - Jul 9th, 2014 at 12:48am
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So, we get this:


Followed by:


The mind boggles


Grammar school = grade school.  Good try, finding a typo and trying to make a point with it without actually understanding what the hell a key word meant.  I made a keystroke error and should have reviewed pressing the post message button. 

Congratulations in reinforcing your side with cunning, logic and the proficiency of the language you so obviously possess.  You have refuted my statements with such ease that only a fool would not be able to see you for the wordsmithing talent and genius you truly possess!

OR

Your inability to understand a word only reinforces my statement.  I'm sure it is one of those

Please do carry on, Shadesson!
  
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Reply #240 - Jul 9th, 2014 at 12:54am
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Shadehater wrote on Jul 9th, 2014 at 12:48am:
Congratulations in reinforcing your side with cunning, logic and the proficiency of the language you so obviously possess.  You have refuted my statements with such ease that only a fool would not be able to see you for the wordsmithing talent and genius you truly possess!




This seems to be the case...

You see, screaming "bad data" isn't a credible way to show that the data, is in fact, bad. A more credible way to do it is to actually provide your own "better" data and see how it disagrees with the "bad" data.

So, while you continue to express your butthurt over a grammar lesson, I'll share with you guys an EE WGU speed run attempt in which all the DPS is done while SWF with a bastard sword. I just ran this about an hour ago, it should be done processing.

The completion time here was 30 minutes and 3 seconds. The THF video submission was 30 minutes and 43 seconds.

Enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCYz4gT3Y-M&feature=youtu.be
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Reply #241 - Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:03am
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That's it. I'll always be more powerful - I spent 8 years doing that.

Statements like this will make Daddy Axer proud!  His little boy is growing up!  *wipes a tear from his eye*

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On a side note - how come nobody brings up the fact that I supported a SWF **BUFF** after they released the first series of dog shit feats.

Im going to say because that wasn't a one man crusade.  The question being what makes the different.  I posit this idea as a likely scenario:

There is the fact that anyone who isn't a nominal fanboy of Turbine understood how shitty those things were and also, because there was no fucking way in hell the original ones were going to be released as is.  Really you might have your issues, and mock the scientific method with your 'data collection', but at least you are not as completely fucking stupid as Maddmatt, Chai, FRAN!OHM!SFORD! !!!!!! or Silverleafeon.
  
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Reply #242 - Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:12am
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This seems to be the case...

You see, screaming "bad data" isn't a credible way to show that the data, is in fact, bad. A more credible way to do it is to actually provide your own "better" data and see how it disagrees with the "bad" data.

Saying your data is good doesn't make it good either.
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So, while you continue to express your butthurt over a grammar lesson, I'll share with you guys an EE WGU speed run attempt in which all the DPS is done while SWF with a bastard sword. I just ran this about an hour ago, it should be done processing.

I was expressing butthurt?  Alright....That must be what that was.

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The completion time here was 30 minutes and 3 seconds. The THF video submission was 30 minutes and 43 seconds.

Enjoy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCYz4gT3Y-M&feature=youtu.be

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Your E-Daddy liked to make 'videos' to prove his e-peen too.  They are equally full of shit.
1803 seconds vs 1843 seconds.  Using the best possible SWF weapon for AoE dps (because it has glancing blow procs) and the difference before watching for actual game play differences and other such bullshit because fuck you if I'm watching an hour of video.  I don't want to even know what variables you didn't standardize in your test.  It would probably make me weep.

Also,

Find a better fucking target.  Fucking hell.  Kill the damn portal out in Aussies valley or something...but again we both know that SWF is better against single targets so that would only reinforce your stupidity even more.

Btw 1843 vs 1803 seconds is a 40 second difference.  That divided by the SWF time of 1803 means a 2.2% difference ins speed and thus (relative) dps.

Yeah  THF is so gimped you guys!
  
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Reply #243 - Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:31am
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Shadehater wrote on Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:03am:
Really you might have your issues, and mock the scientific method with your 'data .


Let's see...I'm a biochemist with publications in peer reviewed journals on mitochondrial membrane interactions during the initiation of apoptosis in cancer cells.

I can't prove this to you, because showing you the paper would mean sharing personal information, since I'm an author; but trust me - It's there. I'm well acquainted with the scientific method, and time and time again I've stated that these measurements are crude, don't prove anything, and are merely suggestive.

I've also welcomed all entries and attempts at falsifying my data. I'd love to see that kinda shit.

But, I've seen nothing but "WHAAAA BAD DATA!".

Seriously, if you want to have a reasonable discussion about this, then you need to get past this idea that you've already accepted that I'm butthurt because my character is getting weak. I don't give a shit, I haven't even been playing my fighter than much as of the last couple of months - the sorc has been way more fun.
  
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Reply #244 - Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:33am
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What's a scum guzzler? I need to know...


It means you guzzle scum you idiot bottom dwelling toad, as in swallowing the  layer of dirt or froth on the surface of a liquid in a quick near uncontrolled fashion.

Obviously you didn't need any to explain what self-inflated, transparent, or bullshit mean, seeing as they are used regarding you quite regularly. How unfortunate your limited understanding doesn't extend to other words like facts, data, unbiased.....
  
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Reply #245 - Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:38am
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Shadehater wrote on Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:12am:
Saying your data is good doesn't make it good either.


I don't want you to say its good. I want you to post your own videos, and I'll compare them to see if its confirmatory or not. If these results can be independently reproduced, then that becomes meaningful.

Shadehater wrote on Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:12am:
1803 seconds vs 1843 seconds.  Using the best possible SWF weapon for AoE dps (because it has glancing blow procs) and the difference before watching for actual game play differences and other such bullshit because fuck you if I'm watching an hour of video.  I don't want to even know what variables you didn't standardize in your test.  It would probably make me weep.


So, you won't even watch the videos? Well, then...you're just out to spew irrational poison in my direction. Cool.

Shadehater wrote on Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:12am:
Find a better fucking target.  Fucking hell.  Kill the damn portal out in Aussies valley or something...but again we both know that SWF is better against single targets so that would only reinforce your stupidity even more.


Wow, you really think the valley portal is a good target? Do you know how much DPS we do nowadays and how many hitpoints that thing has? That portal will get eaten up in a heartbeat, hardly good enough for a good DPS estimate.

Shadehater wrote on Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:12am:
Btw 1843 vs 1803 seconds is a 40 second difference.  That divided by the SWF time of 1803 means a 2.2% difference ins speed and thus (relative) dps.

Yeah  THF is so gimped you guys!


Except throughout the entire shadaver and end-guy/last pillar part of the video I forgot to put my stance and ninja poison back on, I effectively gimped myself by 10% doublestrike in the end.

I haven't made a THF counterpart yet for EE WGU because of the quick strike thing. So, take that into consideration as well.
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Reply #246 - Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:42am
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It means you guzzle scum you idiot bottom dwelling toad, as in swallowing the  layer of dirt or froth on the surface of a liquid in a quick near uncontrolled fashion.

Obviously you didn't need any to explain what self-inflated, transparent, or bullshit mean, seeing as they are used regarding you quite regularly. How unfortunate your limited understanding doesn't extend to other words like facts, data, unbiased.....


Self-inflated...not sure - I'm in pretty good shape.

Transparent? Of course, I'm showing you guys my videos.

Anyway, what do you have against bottom dwelling toads?
  
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Reply #247 - Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:44am
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Let's see...I'm a biochemist with publications in peer reviewed journals on mitochondrial membrane interactions during the initiation of apoptosis in cancer cells.

I can't prove this to you, because showing you the paper would mean sharing personal information, since I'm an author; but trust me - It's there. I'm well acquainted with the scientific method, and time and time again I've stated that these measurements are crude, don't prove anything, and are merely suggestive.

I'm totally a scientist you guys but I can't prove it cause I think my name is personal information! 

Pro tip:  It is not.

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I've also welcomed all entries and attempts at falsifying my data. I'd love to see that kinda shit.

But, I've seen nothing but "WHAAAA BAD DATA!".

Who needs to falsify it.  Your shitty parameters and lack of experimental control causing your data to be 'bad' stands on its own merits.  It really doesn't matter if it is or isn't actually bad data in the long run, because the reproducibilty is nearly nonexistant and it is essentially observational hearsay at best.
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Seriously, if you want to have a reasonable discussion about this, then you need to get past this idea that you've already accepted that I'm butthurt because my character is getting weak. I don't give a shit, I haven't even been playing my fighter than much as of the last couple of months - the sorc has been way more fun.


Yes.  You obviously are not butthurt.  I mean why else would you constantly harp on the topic and desperately try to prove yourself with yet more videos?

You know who else had a melee character that he tried to pretend he wasn't butthurt about while saying his 'sorc was more fun?'

Naaa Im sure you know the answer already.
  
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Reply #248 - Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:45am
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Let's see...I'm a biochemist with publications in peer reviewed journals on mitochondrial membrane interactions during the initiation of apoptosis in cancer cells.


Bullshit.

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I can't prove this to you,


What a surprise.

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No.

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we would, but there is no one to have it with you fuckwit.


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I'm butthurt because my character is getting weak.


Yeah, we know.

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I don't give a shit


Yeah... right....you fill this many pages here and on the mother boards with you self-serving bullshit and self-promoting video links.... because you don't give a shit.



Don't let the door hit you on the way out you self-serving toad.
  
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Reply #249 - Jul 9th, 2014 at 1:49am
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I don't want you to say its good. I want you to post your own videos, and I'll compare them to see if its confirmatory or not. If these results can be independently reproduced, then that becomes meaningful.

Which would still prove nothing.

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So, you won't even watch the videos? Well, then...you're just out to spew irrational poison in my direction. Cool.

Who the fuck wants to watch 30 minute fucking videos about a video game with no actual entertainment included with them?

Fuck you.  Maybe I will watch them eventually though as unlike you I do like to have facts behind my statements.
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Wow, you really think the valley portal is a good target? Do you know how much DPS we do nowadays and how many hitpoints that thing has? That portal will get eaten up in a heartbeat, hardly good enough for a good DPS estimate.


It was a facetious suggestion, oh mighty wordsmith, but surely you knew that already.
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Except throughout the entire shadaver and end-guy/last pillar part of the video I forgot to put my stance and ninja poison back on, I effectively gimped myself by 10% doublestrike in the end.

I haven't made a THF counterpart yet for EE WGU because of the quick strike thing. So, take that into consideration as well.


*blink*  I'm sure you will.
  
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