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Reply #75 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 1:37am
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IMARANGER wrote on Jul 21st, 2014 at 1:29am:
Is English your thirtieth language?  What is this kind of fucking baby talk?


Yes its not my native, deal with it or ignore and kindly go fk yourself
  
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Reply #76 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 3:16am
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Lelouch wrote on Jul 21st, 2014 at 1:37am:
Yes its not my native, deal with it or ignore and kindly go fk yourself


On behalf of native English speakers I apologize for the comments made by that little dork. I am also curious other then English and you're first language, do you know any more? how many?

Thanks in advance.



So now:


Hey Ranger, how many languages do you speak?

I will even give you credit for English although all the post made by you don't really support that conclusion.

So how many Ranger? do tell.
  
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Reply #77 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 4:56am
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Nah im not offended by simple minded people.
Yes i know my writing isn't as good.
But i am working at it.
And beside, know german, latin, english, croatian and a decent ammount of jap.
Pretty sure that is more then he is capable of ever learning based on what he said
  
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Reply #78 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 5:04am
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Lelouch wrote on Jul 21st, 2014 at 1:06am:
Also halflings are freakng cute man.


This is exactly why, despite Human being a far better choice, I *still* haven't been able to bring myself to TR out of my Halfling pure monk build.  There's just something awesome about having a tiny little toon smacking the shit out of giant monsters.  Cheesy
  

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Oh you are good. I will be watching you.


QuantumFX wrote on Jun 5th, 2013 at 11:11am:
You are an evil human being. 


m4lacka wrote on Mar 29th, 2014 at 7:04am:
wow that post hurt a lot more than any of the namecalling i expected. Now I see why ppl consider you evil.
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Reply #79 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 7:15am
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Lelouch wrote on Jul 21st, 2014 at 4:56am:
Nah im not offended by simple minded people.
Yes i know my writing isn't as good.
But i am working at it.
And beside, know german, latin, english, croatian and a decent ammount of jap.
Pretty sure that is more then he is capable of ever learning based on what he said




ha hah ah! so good.  Thanks for letting me know LeLe, no just a moment.

Hey ranger, so how many languages do you speak? 5? 6? hmmmmmmmmm??
  
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Reply #80 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 6:02pm
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Hey ranger, so how many languages do you speak? 5? 6 hmmmmmmmmm??


More than one.
  

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Reply #81 - Jul 21st, 2014 at 6:28pm
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IMARANGER wrote on Jul 21st, 2014 at 6:02pm:
More than one.



Yeah, sure.
  
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Reply #82 - Jul 22nd, 2014 at 4:27pm
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Hi guys quick question, with the builds low saves and strong self healing if you take 15 druid would it be safe to drop monk and evasion for fighter bonus feats?  I'm currently toying with the following splits, help me make up my mind. 
Druid15/ranger3/fighter2
Druid15/ranger3/monk2
Druid8/ranger6/fighter6
Druid8/ranger6/monk6
Druid9/ranger3/fighter8<-leaning towards this for natural fighting feat slots
I would be running the build in either dreadnaught or crusader depending on if there another blitzer whos better than me.  My weapon would be balizarde or devourers reaping until i could use tier 3 thunderforged.  Oh and one last thing, does one with the blade work in animal form? Just in case I were to want to have dance of flowers going with reaping or balizarde?
  
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Reply #83 - Jul 22nd, 2014 at 7:32pm
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Kitler wrote on Jul 22nd, 2014 at 4:27pm:
builds low saves and strong self healing if you take 15 druid would it be safe to drop monk and evasion for fighter bonus feats?


Think of monk more for the 10% boost to off hand procs, earth stance, and dodge potential & stunning fist.

It's not really about the evasion at all.

I definately would not stop at druid 8.

What does a druid 8/6ranger/6fighter give you over a Druid 9, fighter 8, ranger 3?  (hint. nothing useful in animal forms)

Then when comparing 3monk to 3ranger:
Monk 3 = 5% movement speed, +4 dodge, 2 useful bonus feats.
Ranger 3 = one useful bonus feat

The enhancement options are better for 3 monk too:

Shintao = 7ap = 10% off hand procs, 5% healing amp, 10pos spell power
Tempest = lame since you're only single weilding : 6ap = 10% offhand procs, 25% item defense, +3 reflex saves, +3 extra reflex saves vs traps.
« Last Edit: Jul 22nd, 2014 at 7:51pm by Munkenmo »  

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Reply #84 - Jul 23rd, 2014 at 3:39am
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If you plan to use twf+swf you need ranger in there somewhere otherwise its a different build - fighter is only needed to pick up natural fighting. If you cant fit natural fighting then may as well drop druid to 8.

This is not saying that swf+twf is better than twf + nat fight though - you could argue the former is better for epics and the latter is better for heroics

(I have not levelled either yet so cant comment - I will be doing a druid past life soon though so I might use a variant of this)

As a variation has anyone tried a swf version of pastlifenmo or is twf superior?

EDIT: Twf is probably superior if only for the Con Opp healing amp off hand
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Reply #85 - Jul 23rd, 2014 at 7:19am
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Justanotherlurker wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 3:39am:
f you plan to use twf+swf you need ranger in there somewhere


This wasn't the case on lamania, are they mutually exclusive on live now?

Justanotherlurker wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 3:39am:
If you cant fit natural fighting then may as well drop druid to 8.


Even without enough room for Natural Fighting, I like 9druid for deathward and animal growth.

Anyhow, from the splits you proposed, Imo 9d/8f/3rngr is the strongest.
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Reply #86 - Jul 23rd, 2014 at 9:04am
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Munkenmo wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 7:19am:
This wasn't the case on lamania, are they mutually exclusive on live now?


Yes. improved versions are not so need 2 ranger as a minimum to take both feat lines.
  
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Reply #87 - Jul 23rd, 2014 at 9:48am
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Justanotherlurker wrote on Jul 23rd, 2014 at 9:04am:
Yes. improved versions are not so need 2 ranger as a minimum to take both feat lines.

You also must take SWF before the 2nd Ranger level or get locked out.
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #88 - Jul 23rd, 2014 at 3:35pm
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hmm that actually makes it rather annoying compared to what it used to be.
  

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Reply #89 - Jul 25th, 2014 at 12:44am
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Running 10 druid/6 fighter/4 monk and i don't like it. Can't wait to go back to my bard build. The attack speed is pretty crazy, but the survivability is much lower.


Orbs count as shields for some things but not others. You get doublestrike from the shield mastery feats, you get PRR from stalwart enhancements but you don't get the 20% compotence bonus to HP from stalwart enhancements. You can also get the PRR and doublstrike from legendary shield mastery from US. I didn't check if you can get the STR or CON.

Weird.
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Reply #90 - Jul 25th, 2014 at 12:47am
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rest wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 12:44am:
you get PRR from stalwart enhancements


That doesn't require a shield, only the +6str/con & %hp require you to have a shield whilst in stance.
  

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Reply #91 - Jul 25th, 2014 at 1:02am
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rest wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 12:44am:
10 druid/6 fighter/4 monk

Rest that build doesnt get swf line with 2wf.
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #92 - Jul 25th, 2014 at 6:51pm
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Rubbinns wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 1:02am:
Rest that build doesnt get swf line with 2wf.


Correct. I didn't claim it did. I was posting to the original thread title, not the jibber jabber shit you've been talking about since then  Grin
  
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Reply #93 - Jul 25th, 2014 at 6:53pm
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Munkenmo wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 12:47am:
That doesn't require a shield, only the +6str/con & %hp require you to have a shield whilst in stance.


Well put that aside then. Some of the things I have taken that "require a shield" (shield mastery feats, legendary shield mastery twist) work just fine while I am holding an orb. Others (+6 str/con and %hp) do not. It's just a little inconsistent is all. But that's typical Turbine.
  
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Reply #94 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 2:21am
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rest wrote on Jul 25th, 2014 at 6:51pm:
original thread title, not the jibber jabber shit you've been talking about since then 

Wolf with any fighting feats is not WAI. Missing out on 80% or more extra main hand attacks without G2WF.
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #95 - Jul 26th, 2014 at 10:21pm
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Just hit 20 on my swf/2wf wolf. Went with the 9 ranger 9 druid 2 fighter pdk split. Str based. Same feat layout as my post on page 1. 2wf/swf wolves are by far the best melee dps in the game. 30% attack speed from wolf form. 30% attack speed from gswf. 15% attack speed from Haste. 30% attack speed from Haste boost. 80% wolf "off" hand attacks. 20% doublestrike and assorted healing spells. What's not to like?

Shoutout to Shat for going over build splits and options with me. Nice guy that guy Tongue
His build is a bit different than mine. Eschewing Power attack, Cleave, and Great Cleave, and OC. In exchange for Shield Mastery line for more PRR and doublestrikes. You would have to swap the leveling order around a bit to get that build from the one I posted.
  

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I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Reply #96 - Jul 28th, 2014 at 5:29am
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Yeah, sure.


Now now.. Don't go doubting the poor fellow.. I'm sure retardian is a language in some imaginary world..
  
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Reply #97 - Jul 29th, 2014 at 9:27pm
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Ugg the Unwise wrote on Jul 28th, 2014 at 5:29am:
Now now.. Don't go doubting the poor fellow.. I'm sure retardian is a language in some imaginary world..


your right, I feel just terrible.
  
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Reply #98 - Jul 30th, 2014 at 5:51pm
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Ugg the Unwise wrote on Jul 28th, 2014 at 5:29am:
Now now.. Don't go doubting the poor fellow.. I'm sure retardian is a language in some imaginary world..


Your imaginary girlfriend speaks it.
  

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Reply #99 - Jul 30th, 2014 at 5:58pm
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