What are the best weapons/procs for the off-hand on throwers/star-chuckers?  In my limited testing I know Celestia's 2 CC procs work.  Deception and armor piercing seem to work.  What else?

Hi All

I am looking to get some shadar Kai lives out of the way using this build while this is not ideal I just need the PL.  Are there any significant charges or deficits other than the crit profile from master thrower? I also Wouldn't mind getting another monk PL out of it as rogues are now wasted (I have 3) .  Thoughts or advice? (I am usually a Caster so pretty new to the melee  and ranged stuff)

Hey. I have decided to tr one of my alts into this and atm I am level 23 so still some crappy gear but it seems fun so far. However how you are dealing with skellies and such? Pewpewing them takes me forever.

Ohfaq wrote on Aug 25^th, 2014 at 5:28pm:

So no tricks for 20 to 27?

Ohfaq wrote on Aug 25^th, 2014 at 6:25pm:


Ya, that will work. Thanks 

Been testing this and various builds like it, either mortal fear is not procing even close to at my expected rate, or I am missing it in the combat spam... not sure.

Also for Skellies get a triple Pos GS for greater disruption.

Rabbit wrote on Dec 1^st, 2014 at 4:03pm:


Technically I could fit both with the who cares at 26

When this build was posted OC was still a 4 feat investment.

It's a no-brainer choice now, unless something else changed I am not aware of. Don't play DDO anymore

NOt sure why you are comparing a melee to a ranged dps. I still have a thrower and still do fine in group against melee toons. Throwers still do great against other ranged builds. The reason they feel weak is bc of melee power, once ranged power comes in play they will be even better.

A Thrower in ee mod isn't bad if you're in the right destiny as well. Throwers lacked high burst dps, but always had better sustained damage than other ranged builds. Using LD or EA in ee mod seems to work just fine for mine.

thrower has good advantage that  can exert stable damage continuously

harharharhar wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2014 at 6:11pm:


Thing is in mark, you dont need "stable" damage that compares to monkchers burst after 2 hours of throwing.
You need burst, you dont need trasch control in that raid since trash is simply controled by blind and stf.
IF you kill trash you actually make it harder on the raid to be completed.
And shuri builds are trash clearing builds, they were never boss dps builds.
Only thing a shuri can be used in that raid is to keep abbot perma stacked with vulner.
But thats a simple thing a couple monkchers do waybetter since he is perma stacked anyways.
A th forged bow a bow of silver flame, and someone throws in destruction.

I mean, mark was completed in 2 minutes with a set of monkchers.
I guarantee you cant complete it faster on shuri builds.
They lack burst, what they lacked in every single high raid ee raid solos and the most horrific thing is that they dont bypass any dr so their alrdy low damage is being negated by abbot.
They just utterly suck in mark and most new content from necro4.

Also new monkcher has even more burst aka 14/6 helf or elf then former one.

Since ddo can be considerd a game which has its endgame focused on etr/tr (sadly still the case) shuri builds that are superb at 28 and really really suck hard before that arent really good builds.
They are fun, but they are lv 28 builds for trash control.
Also, unless you are in shadowdancer, most versions with rogue really lose crap load dps from lack of sneak damage.
Dont need to be in crusader as shuri since its virtually imposible to ever get aggro from a good palie/monkcher in mark anyways

I dont dislike shuri builds, im always trying to tell my opinion from the current meta game view.
my preference is sorcs and some odd builds that dont really mix good in the games current flavor which shifted toward high prr/mrr melles and druids with swf/2weap fight.
Ranged got the short stick beside monkchery which can still somewhat abuse holy sword for their builds.
Could maybe do a holy sword shuri, but since the base damage is horrific it wouldnt be worth it