I'm calling it first:

Halfling 14 Paladin, 6monk. Dex based Shuriken build, that can qualify for 10k stars and wind stance.

Alternate options would be :
14pally, 3monk, 3rogue to get +3 dex from Acrobat.
15pally, 3monk, 2druid for, Zeal, vengeful hunter and doublestrike boost.
15pally, 3monk, 2fighter for extra actionboosts & feats.
15pally, 3monk, 2ranger for PBS increase & rapid shot.

Threat range improvements:
20
19-20 Halfling
18-20 Holy Spell
17-20 Divine Crusader
13-20 With IC Thrown

Crit mod improvements
+1 Holy weapons spell

19/20 Improvements
+1 Overwhelming crit

Enhancement bonuses:
+2 Holy weapons spell

With this build basic shurikens will be 13-18*3, 19-20*4, with decent umd and saves that will rival that of god himself.

still editing, i hit post instead of preview by mistake.

Aeolwind wrote on Jul 29^th, 2014 at 9:50am:


If a weapon has a critical range of only 20, improved crit will improve that by 1, ie 19-20

If the default crit range is 19-20, improved crit will make it become 17-20 (eg. longsword)

18-20 becomes 15-20  (eg. rapier) etc. 

Improved crit matches how ever many crits the base weapon gets without the feat. Every other ability usually only improves the crit range by 1 (or how ever much the ability specifically states) then improved crit matches all of that and adds it to the crit range.

A standard shuriken only has a crit range of 20 thus I only listed the bonus as +1, once the other mods are taken into account first, improved crit will end up providing +3. 
If I were to use something with a non default crit range though, eg. the snowstar, which has a base crit range of 18-20*2. 

This build would make the snowstar:
18-20 base
17-20 halfling
16-20 Holy spell
15-20 Divine Crusader
9-20 improved critical.

That's 9-18*3 & 19-20*4. Not that the snowstar will be better than a thunder forged or evening star shuriken, but hopefully that explains how improved crit works.

also FTFY:

15 Pally, 3 Monk, 2 Arty

You'll need UMD for those Tensers scrolls, and Rune arms currently the best off hand damage to be had. 14/3/3Rogue is also nice for Shadow Dodge of course.

I'm a sucker for 10k stars burst dps potential.  As for umd, cha is too rewarding on paladins not to invest in it, esp if oc does lose the street req (not sure how I feel about that tbh)  I had a mid 40's umd on my bladeforged monk, I doubt I'll have problema on a pally tosser.

Munkenmo wrote on Jul 29^th, 2014 at 10:02am:

If only we could change the stacking order....

Munkenmo wrote on Jul 29^th, 2014 at 10:02am:


actually i dont think this is right.

When I swashbuckle a shuriken with IC Crit it's 15-20

When I take Monk and use halfling +1 threat, it goes to 19-20, and with IC it becomes 17-20.

I believe with Holy and Divine Crusader and Halfling your Shurikens would be:

20
19-20 Halfling
18-20 Holy Spell
17-20 DC
13-20 With IC Thrown (x3)

UNLESS you meant in your OP that 16-20 was before IC Thrown

I was posting at 2am.  ><

yeah, improved crit is applied after the enhancements, and will most likely be counted after the holy weapons spell.

So a shuriken will work exactly as Harharhar said.

It's a pity Sev stopped posting, and that there's so much white noise.  Overall I still think his ideas have merit, they just need a better implementation.

I'd also love to see a multiselecter appear for Divine might where i can choose to add to my dex rather than str.

Omg that survey ><  If turbine thinks that data from that survey was useful then character building is fucked.

I remember when I was considering only taking divine might 3 because divine might 4 required too much charisma, running shroud every 3days in the hopes of a +3 cha tome. Back then I was happy when a shroud only took 30mins, I even had no idea how to build and read Arkat / Junts / Anthios' guides every time I leveled.

Nowadays the only role playing left in ddo now is pretending to be god.

Not that I blame the people on the PC, but with the way stuff like this has been released to the public it's fairly clear that the PC isn't working.  Either the PC members don't know enough, or they're not being given the chance to provide feedback.

Aeolwind wrote on Jul 29^th, 2014 at 6:50pm:


If it helps, I was partially right, just too tired to take the stacking into account.

I've noticed I'm starting to be wrong more often though

How much of this do you guys reckon will make it live?

harharharhar wrote on Jul 29^th, 2014 at 10:51am:

I agree with Munk.  Not mandatory at all.

Yeah my casual reading over there seems to indicate you are to Holy Sword what Cletus is to SWF.    <-note the playful smiley