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Reply #25 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 9:15am
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Wipe wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 9:03am:
It's okay, I can get to 60 Enchant.
But it's such a bitch to use, you either have to have stupid cloak or weapon swap + augment for it.
Because slotting 5 conjuration + 2 aug, 5 Necro + 2 aug, 6 Evocation +2 aug, 5 Transm + 2 aug if you use Mass Flav often and all the different shit is not enough


Oh, I was only pointing out that cleric/fvs does come with real cc spells.

My "cc" cleric wasn't meant to be one, it just turned out that way. It was my first toon on Cannith, no gear, no gs, 28p build first life.. and her cc was good enough for vale elites.
  
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Reply #26 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 10:32am
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Red Sox H8 Yankees wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 7:39am:
PWK has a save, a Spell pen save, along with

Now tell me again how many sorc's can fit in Spell Pen feats?

I can hear you whineing now "Oh but my sorc never fails a spell pen checks, and he dont have spell pen feats". 

Bull shit.  Run EE.  Go find an epic drow. 

More whining "Oh but your wizard can't DPS bosses like my Sorc can!  You will run out of SP on your wizard"

Bull shit again. 



3 past life wiz gives passive spell pen checks.

Also, PWK does not have a save on mobs. I have a source.

http://ddowiki.com/page/Power_Word:_Kill

Or you can just read the in-game description. I have yet to see a non-immune or deathwarded mob not die to PWK.

On the same note, PWS (power word stun) and PWB (power word blind) work the same way.

And also - you can just use direct damage against spell resistant mobs. Most elemental spells do not have an SR check.

When my caster was in her sorc life, I played like a wizard: instakill spells everywhere with elemental SLA backup. Max empower PL: wiz, PL:barb, spell pen, SF:necro, GSF: necro, and went elf for the spell pen off elven arcanum. That's 7 feats, and I could cc the drow in EE eveningstar chain.

Then I TRed into monk. It was a sad, sad day.
  

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Reply #27 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 11:03am
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notsunny I know you're right, but i'd let it go before it draws attention.
  

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Reply #28 - Aug 29th, 2014 at 11:09am
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Munkenmo wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 11:03am:
notsunny I know you're right, but i'd let it go before it draws attention.


I might get 12 hours to prove it through an impartial 3rd party like dropbear?
  

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Reply #29 - Aug 30th, 2014 at 12:57pm
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Huge shift in numbers if you just plan on going direct damage in EE and tricky in the rest, ever heard of scaling turbine??  Grin

So with a 69 enchant, 70 evoc I am having zero problems in any EH, and for EE I just switch back to Draconic, twist sense weakness, hold hold hold.

the jump to EE is silly.
  
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Reply #30 - Aug 30th, 2014 at 3:19pm
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EE storm horns orcs/stone giants aren't a good measure for required dc for no fail since they are so much higher then runner up "tier" of fort saves.

If you can get reliable results after an energy drain or energy drain + an sla enervation on those mobs then you are fine, most other mobs in game will perish without those debuffs (74-75 dc).

There are other simple, effective and fun ways to deal with groups of super high fort. Personally I like hypno (the will debuff might be over kill but it also allows you to target your mass hold on a stationary group of mobs rather then a moving one) or web followed by mass hold and then energy burst followed by a melle range hell ball. Even if you're fire based (I love empyrean magic) web is great since energy burst and hell ball don't burn it.

On my pale master I run with 75 dc self buffed and very happy with it. Enchant stands on 68-69 after it suffered some in favor of taking spell pen and extend. My draconic sorc gets by with a lot less by simply holding and nuking and when I really want to I just couple an energy drain with enervation and FoD.
  
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Reply #31 - Aug 30th, 2014 at 4:48pm
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This week I have been playing with 5 or 6 levels of spell singer to jack evoc, enchant DCs, I have done it with sorc, and tried with wiz. Both bring their own unique headaches. Wiz is fun with the extra feats the spell school and vamping, but it is a pain when running the EA because of the charisma bumps as opposed to Intell.  Sorc is fun but the high spells loss in annoying.

Speaking of annoying, I was really pumped for the Spell Singer mass hold at first and I still enjoy it, but 6 enhancement points for a 20 second cooldown Boooo!  now I grab tier 5 mostly for the prodigy.  20 seconds is so long when you are cracking off spells, and 50sp is not that cheap considering your heighten only kicks it to lv 6.



That 75 is evil! but then he is a pale master! 

any chance you could post a break down of getting it that high?
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Reply #32 - Aug 30th, 2014 at 5:52pm
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NOTSunnyshadow wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 11:09am:
I might get 12 hours to prove it through an impartial 3rd party like dropbear?

OMG you make me laugh.  Totally not needed.  I was just trying to say that some sorc's that i have played with will use PWK.  I have heard complaints about SR on EE.  You are 100% correct about DPS.  I always keep this thought in mind with DDO.  "Every solution has its problems."
  

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Reply #33 - Aug 30th, 2014 at 5:59pm
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SayWhatAgain wrote on Aug 30th, 2014 at 3:19pm:
On my pale master I run with 75 dc self buffed and very happy with it.


You're either a liar or an idiot.
  

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Reply #34 - Aug 30th, 2014 at 6:02pm
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That 75 is evil! but then he is a pale master!  any chance you could post a break down of getting it that high?


No.  No chance.  He's an idiot or a liar, as I've already pointed out.  Either way, you should ignore the stupid fuck.
  

OnePercenter wrote on Jan 19th, 2014 at 5:32pm:
I agree with 0bama...


OnePercenter wrote on Feb 9th, 2015 at 8:18am:
Not saying that others weren't better, just that quantity does not always indicate quality...  I mean, look at my post count...
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Reply #35 - Aug 30th, 2014 at 9:20pm
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IMARANGER wrote on Aug 30th, 2014 at 6:02pm:
No.  No chance.  He's an idiot or a liar, as I've already pointed out.  Either way, you should ignore the stupid fuck.



Thanks, noted!

Where the hell have you been anyway?
  
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Reply #36 - Aug 30th, 2014 at 10:07pm
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This week I have been playing with 5 or 6 levels of spell singer to jack evoc, enchant DCs, I have done it with sorc, and tried with wiz. Both bring their own unique headaches. Wiz is fun with the extra feats the spell school and vamping, but it is a pain when running the EA because of the charisma bumps as opposed to Intell.  Sorc is fun but the high spells loss in annoying.

Speaking of annoying, I was really pumped for the Spell Singer mass hold at first and I still enjoy it, but 6 enhancement points for a 20 second cooldown Boooo!  now I grab tier 5 mostly for the prodigy.  20 seconds is so long when you are cracking off spells, and 50sp is not that cheap considering your heighten only kicks it to lv 6.



That 75 is evil! but then he is a pale master! 

any chance you could post a break down of getting it that high?


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Reply #37 - Aug 30th, 2014 at 10:28pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 30th, 2014 at 10:07pm:
Didn't you say you were going to chone?



Sorry to disappoint you, I agreed with him I'm not barkingmad dummy  Smiley

I was actually thinking you might be him, looking at your posting of the past week and where you avoided  Grin

But it's okay I forgive you, you still cranky that you had to change that copy cat name of yours!



  
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Reply #38 - Aug 30th, 2014 at 10:37pm
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Please take the drama somewhere else, this is a pretty good thread.
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Reply #39 - Aug 30th, 2014 at 10:38pm
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Was in a pug EE tor last week, there was a palemaster from band of gypsies in it, who somehow was one shoting mobs left and right all they way up to the skelly fight.

I wanted to ask how the hell he was doing it, but they were a pretty tight three man unit and frankly didn't want to seem like a noob.

but can someone tell me how the hell would you jack up necro that high? (it was death effects all over the place)
  
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Reply #40 - Aug 30th, 2014 at 10:51pm
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Hm I'm not sure what I'm missing, but when I get an 11 item and litany  on my sorc I can get my enchant DCs up to 63-64 I believe, and my evo DCs will be around the same.....

If anyone has a breakdown for getting to around 65-70 on both enchant and evo I would love to get it (I find 60 enchant holds reliably well in EE wheloon surprisingly, but the saves seem weak there......for stormhorns I would say I get around 60-70% efficiency with a 60 hold DC).

But I may just be getting lucky with enemy rolls, so you never know.
  

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Reply #41 - Aug 31st, 2014 at 3:44am
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Sorry to disappoint you, I agreed with him I'm not barkingmad dummy  Smiley

I was actually thinking you might be him, looking at your posting of the past week and where you avoided  Grin

But it's okay I forgive you, you still cranky that you had to change that copy cat name of yours!





1. I don't believe you.

2. I don't come here everyday.

3. How was I to know some asshat (you) would imitate my name?

4. GFY

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Reply #42 - Aug 31st, 2014 at 3:53am
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Oh, I almost forgot...

YOU HAVE 12 HOURS TO PROVIDE PROOF VERIFIED BY AN INDEPENDENT 3RD PARTY LIKE DROPBEAR THAT YOU ARE NOT BARCELOT.

CASE CLOSED.

YOU'RE SO FUCKED NOW.
  

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Reply #43 - Aug 31st, 2014 at 5:19am
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5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 31st, 2014 at 3:44am:
1. I don't believe you.

2. I don't come here everyday.

3. How was I to know some asshat (you) would imitate my name?

4. GFY

5. DIAF




I am so sorry you don't believe me! really I am!!! 

And I now I understand that just because you weren't active during Barkingboy's meltdown and have been spamming since he "choned" that doesn't mean you are him... even though you seem to share similar anger issues  Grin

Now, since you brought it up, why would I ever need to imitate you? pretty self absorbed to think I was copying that old name, I mean really!! and the way you just gave up and changed it!!! that was so sad  Cry


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Reply #44 - Aug 31st, 2014 at 6:48am
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1. I said all that needed to be said.

5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 25th, 2014 at 11:15pm:
STFU and chone already, spammer. Take your sock drawer with you.


2. You calling anyone a spammer is laughable.

3. No issues, I just have no tolerance for your idiocy.

4. You are a no-talent ass clown.

5. You're not fooling anyone.

6. GFY

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Reply #45 - Aug 31st, 2014 at 7:05am
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IMARANGER wrote on Aug 30th, 2014 at 5:59pm:
You're either a liar or an idiot.

No necessarily.
72 with 5 tome and Echoes/Int/Int in Magister. Shippies and Yugo.
73 completionist.
74 any combination of 6 tome, Litany or Epic Compl.

Can have "store" pots, Abishai cookies, multibox Bard with Excellence and Trance ( dunno if it works with new ship 1 DC ) as "self buffing".
  
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Reply #46 - Aug 31st, 2014 at 8:04am
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Angry wrote on Aug 29th, 2014 at 9:15am:
and her cc was good enough for vale elites

What the heck are you ccing on a hjealzor in Vale Councilor ?
Mobs should be death as soon as you look at them and melees desperately running half a screen behind you trying to get some kills Smiley
  
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Reply #47 - Aug 31st, 2014 at 10:59am
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IMARANGER wrote on Aug 30th, 2014 at 5:59pm:
You're either a liar or an idiot.


You! Are definitely a ranger.
Ignorance rears it's ugly head... wearing a tasty hat by chance?

75 isn't even the max you can get. I run with it while in draconic (as opposed to magister saving a twist spot) and sacrificing 2 int from draconic for more fire power.

The toon is epic completionist/heroic completionist, sun elf, uses a +1 TF armor, +6 int tome, litany, supreme/Yugo pots and abishai cookies. I'll post an exact breakdown (not that it's a spactacular achievement) when I get a chance.
  
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Reply #48 - Aug 31st, 2014 at 11:49am
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IMARANGER wrote on Aug 30th, 2014 at 5:59pm:
You're either a liar or an idiot.

Tell me, do you have a caster?
  
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Reply #49 - Aug 31st, 2014 at 1:34pm
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5 Foot Step wrote on Aug 31st, 2014 at 6:48am:
1. I said all that needed to be said.


2. You calling anyone a spammer is laughable.

3. No issues, I just have no tolerance for your idiocy.

4. You are a no-talent ass clown.

5. You're not fooling anyone.

6. GFY

7. DIAF



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