Doggydaddy wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 6:08am:


I like doing that when it interests me, this isn't one of those times.

why?

Doggydaddy wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 6:08am:



That is something of a contradiction in terms....


OK, let's start with the basics:

Halfling (because you are dumping STR, right?)

6 Ranger (or else why bother?)
7 Monk (extra feats, shadow fade, DEX to-hit and damage with other weapons)
7 Rogue


STR 6
DEX 20 + levels
CON 14
INT  15 (+6 tome, +9 from items = 30, all you need/want)
WIS 14
CHA  8


Leveling order should be something like:

1 Rogue
2-7 Ranger
8-14 Monk
15-20 Rogue

Feats:

Toughness
TWF/iTWF (free from Ranger)
Precision
Deflect Arrows
10K Stars
Zen Archery
IC:Slash
gTWF


There is a classic problem here, though: You will have more DPS with a bow than you will with the Midnight Greetings; they basically get relegated to what you use when 10k Stars & Manyshot are on cooldown.

9 monk 6 monk 5 monk.
Whops i mean 9 monk 6 ranger 5 rogue halfling.
Figure out feats however you wish but personally i wouldnt bother with monk splashing with upcoming update, rather go int based assasin with new harper tree, doing a splash like this and using 2 emidnight proves that you dont know what that weapon is good for

Feynman wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 10:19am:




7 monk is the most useless thing ever, it adds fuck all. Even using this approximate split, 8th rogue adds something (1 reflex and dodge + imp uncanny dodge).


13 rog /6 ranger/1 monk will at least have decent SA dice for damage (7d6 from rogue, 3d6 improved SA, 2d6 DWS, 4d6 assassin + eventually 1 more from ninja and racials = 17d6 + ), imp evasion + opportunist,+1 crit multiplier,  + manyshot.
That if OP is dead sure on exactly this class mix.

Lelouch wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 11:32am:


Heh, good point.

Btw, with the added melee power shadowdancer isn't that terrible. For the epic abbot I foresee a lot of melees (fleshies) going SD for running it, I tried it in the last lama incarnation and neg levels were still rampant.

Feynman wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 1:16pm:


Ranger is not solely for ranged feats there.
Exposing strike is extremely nice to have on a SA based build. Dual wielding feats, positive spellpower, 10% off hand.
Of course these could be passed, but then I would rather ditch ranger entirely, and monk for that matter, and go pure assassin as was suggested by lelouch and sunny.

Feynman wrote on Sep 22^nd, 2014 at 2:40pm:

But monk doesnt get killer, monks off strike costs freaking 2 ap per rank, monks shint gets less pos spp then whatever in ranger tree.
Monks free feats are limited to a number of mostly poor choices for that build.
So dunno, beside stance and shadow fade monk doesnt offer much for a 2 weapon fight melle that a ranger doesnt.
I mean monk is great, but monk is so dead in next update for melle splashes, i will point and laugh at every melle in epics that has monk levels