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3000 Year Old Necromancer Korthos Resident Offline TNT knows Drama! Posts: 53 Location: Back from the dead Joined: Jul 31^st, 2014 Gender:	BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Sep 25^th, 2014 at 12:06pm	Print Post
	This is a build I was working with for the upcoming changes. Its goal is a max prr/mrr. With bastard sword (personal preference) and swf. I didnt have swf on the creator so had to comp with 2hf. Any suggestions? Or level split? Cha vs Str? etc. Thanks to all who reply. BTW its 34 2nd life build. Code [u][b]Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02[/b][/u] [url=http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO]DDO Character Planner Home Page[/url] [B][U]o o[/U][/B] Level 28 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male (6 Fighter \ 14 Paladin \ 8 Epic) Hit Points: 475 Spell Points: 529 BAB: 20\20\25\30\30 Fortitude: 27 Reflex: 15 Will: 15 [B]� �� Starting� �� Ending� �� Feat/Enhancement Abilities� �� Base Stats� �� Base Stats� �� Modified Stats [U](34 Point)[/U]� �� [U](Level 1)[/U]� �� [U](Level 28)[/U]� �� [U](Level 28)[/U][/B] [COLOR=silver]Strength� �� 16� �� 26� �� 26 Dexterity� �� 10� �� 15� �� 15 Constitution� �� 16� �� 21� �� 23 Intelligence� �� 9� �� 14� �� 14 Wisdom� �� 9� �� 14� �� 14 Charisma� �� 16� �� 21� �� 23[/COLOR] [B][U]Tomes Used[/U][/B] [COLOR=silver]+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3 +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3 +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3 +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3 +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3 +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3 +2 Tome of Strength used at level 7 +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 +3 Tome of Strength used at level 11 +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11 +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 11 +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11 +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11 +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 11 +4 Tome of Strength used at level 15 +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15 +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 15 +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15 +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15 +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 15 +5 Tome of Strength used at level 19 +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19 +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 19 +5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19 +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19 +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 19 [/COLOR] [B]� �� Starting� �� Ending� �� Feat/Enhancement � �� Base Skills� �� Base Skills� �� Modified Skills [U]Skills[/U]� �� [U](Level 1)[/U]� �� [U](Level 28)[/U]� �� [U](Level 28)[/U][/B] [COLOR=silver]Balance� �� 0� �� 12� �� 15 Bluff� �� 3� �� 6� �� 14 Concentration� �� 4� �� 8� �� 16 Diplomacy� �� 3� �� 6� �� 14 Disable Device� �� n/a� �� n/a� �� n/a Haggle� �� 3� �� 6� �� 14 Heal� �� 0� �� 6� �� 14 Hide� �� 0� �� 2� �� 5 Intimidate� �� 3� �� 6� �� 14 Jump� �� 3� �� 9� �� 12 Listen� �� -1� �� 2� �� 10 Move Silently� �� 0� �� 2� �� 5 Open Lock� �� n/a� �� n/a� �� n/a Perform� �� n/a� �� n/a� �� n/a Repair� �� -1� �� 2� �� 10 Search� �� -1� �� 2� �� 10 Spellcraft� �� -1� �� 2� �� 10 Spot� �� -1� �� 2� �� 10 Swim� �� 3� �� 8� �� 6 Tumble� �� n/a� �� 3� �� 6 Use Magic Device� �� 4� �� 16� �� 24 [/COLOR] [B][U]Level 1 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Concentration (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Heal (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Use Magic Device (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Deity) Follower of the Lord of Blades[/COLOR] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian[/COLOR] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Power Attack[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 2 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+0.5)[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 3 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+0.5)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Cleave[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 4 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=pink]Ability Raise: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]STR[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+1)[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 5 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+1)[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 6 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Bastard Sword[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 7 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+1)[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 8 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=pink]Ability Raise: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]STR[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+0.5)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Heal (+1)[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 9 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+0.5)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Use Magic Device (+0.5)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Two Handed Fighting[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 10 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+0.5)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Use Magic Device (+0.5)[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 11 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+0.5)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Use Magic Device (+0.5)[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 12 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=pink]Ability Raise: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]STR[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Use Magic Device (+1.5)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Great Cleave[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 13 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Use Magic Device (+0.5)[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 14 (Fighter)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+0.5)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Use Magic Device (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 15 (Fighter)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+0.5)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Use Magic Device (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Improved Shield Bash[/COLOR] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 16 (Fighter)[/U][/B] [COLOR=pink]Ability Raise: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]STR[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+0.5)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Use Magic Device (+1)[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 17 (Fighter)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Balance (+0.5)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Use Magic Device (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Handed Fighting[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 18 (Fighter)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Heal (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Use Magic Device (+0.5)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Shield Mastery[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 19 (Fighter)[/U][/B] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Jump (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Tumble (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Fighter Bonus) Improved Shield Mastery[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 20 (Paladin)[/U][/B] [COLOR=pink]Ability Raise: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]STR[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Concentration (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Heal (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=wheat]Skill: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver]Use Magic Device (+1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Divine Righteousness (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Redemption (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Extra Lay on Hands (Rank 3)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 3)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Saves Boost (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 3)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Defense Boost (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Defense Boost (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Defense Boost (Rank 3)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Tenacious Defense (Rank 3)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Charisma (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Hardy Defense (Rank 3)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Charisma (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Harbored by Light (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Harbored by Light (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Harbored by Light (Rank 3)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Strong Defense (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Strong Defense (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Sacred Defender (Pal) - Strong Defense (Rank 3)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Toughness (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Overbalance (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Stalwart Defensive Mastery (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Defense Boost (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Defense Boost (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Shield Striking (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Shield Striking (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Stalwart Defender (Ftr) - Shield Striking (Rank 3)[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 21 (Epic)[/U][/B] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Adamantine Body[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 22 (Epic)[/U][/B] [B][U]Level 23 (Epic)[/U][/B] [B][U]Level 24 (Epic)[/U][/B] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Mental Toughness[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 25 (Epic)[/U][/B] [B][U]Level 26 (Epic)[/U][/B] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 27 (Epic)[/U][/B] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed[/COLOR] [B][U]Level 28 (Epic)[/U][/B] [COLOR=lightblue]Feat: [/COLOR][COLOR=silver](Epic Destiny) Epic Destiny: Elusive Target[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Bladeforged - Warforged Constitution (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Bladeforged - Warforged Constitution (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Bladeforged - Improved Fortification (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Bladeforged - Healer's Friend (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Bladeforged - Healer's Friend (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Bladeforged - Healer's Friend (Rank 3)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Bladeforged - Fearsome Presence (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Bladeforged - Communion of Warding (Rank 3)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Bladeforged - Power of the Forge (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Hunter of the Dead I (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Attack Boost (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)[/COLOR] [COLOR=lemonchiffon]Enhancement:[/COLOR] [COLOR=silver]Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)[/COLOR]

	Skoodge wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 5:32am: A good joke is like a good recipe. Try using a little less butthurt next time, it throws off the flavor GermanicusMaximus wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 3:52pm: Why thank you, although I needed no affirmation of that fact from anyone, and certainly not from some sad, fat fuck who is a DDO fanboi. Having said that, I am a Time Warner stockholder, and every� bit of profit that can be wrung out of Turbine has a chance of increasing my dividend check. As such, I would encourage you to continue spending money on DDO as you attempt to offset the wretched reality that is your life. Just for your information, not all companies optimize their business operations to maximize current profits. Amazon, for example, is much more interested in increasing its market share at the expense of current profits. You would know these kinds of things if you were anyone who mattered, but clearly you aren't. Now, be a good little fanboi and toddle off to the Turbine forums where you can get your daily dose of Cordo ass kissing done. Hi Welcome
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #1 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 12:14pm	Print Post
	take 15 pally minimum. I would suggest dropping fighter completely. The lv 18 capstone, and censure have synergy with pswf. lv20 capstone is +10 melee power and 7d6/hit light damage that scales with 100 melee power. In divine crusader your critical will be 13-20 on bastard sword. Go str based. Shields and swf can't be combined on a pally. lose shield bash, keep shield mastery and use an orb, that enables swf.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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3000 Year Old Necromancer Korthos Resident Offline TNT knows Drama! Posts: 53 Location: Back from the dead Joined: Jul 31^st, 2014 Gender:	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #2 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 12:38pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 12:14pm: take 15 pally minimum. I would suggest dropping fighter completely. The lv 18 capstone, and censure have synergy with pswf. lv20 capstone is +10 melee power and 7d6/hit light damage that scales with 100 melee power. In divine crusader your critical will be 13-20 on bastard sword. Go str based. Shields and swf can't be combined on a pally. lose shield bash, keep shield mastery and use an orb, that enables swf. Better? Code [u][b]Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 04.20.02[/b][/u] [url=http://www.rjcyberware.com/DDO]DDO Character Planner Home Page[/url] [B][U]i i[/U][/B] Level 28 Lawful Good Bladeforged Male (20 Paladin \ 8 Epic) Hit Points: 470 Spell Points: 408 BAB: 20\20\25\30\30 Fortitude: 25 Reflex: 14 Will: 14 [B]� �� Starting� �� Ending� �� Feat/Enhancement Abilities� �� Base Stats� �� Base Stats� �� Modified Stats [U](34 Point)[/U]� �� [U](Level 1)[/U]� �� [U](Level 28)[/U]� �� [U](Level 28)[/U][/B] [COLOR=silver]Strength� �� 16� �� 26� �� 27 Dexterity� �� 10� �� 15� �� 15 Constitution� �� 16� �� 21� �� 25 Intelligence� �� 9� �� 14� �� 14 Wisdom� �� 9� �� 14� �� 14 Charisma� �� 16� �� 21� �� 21[/COLOR] [B][U]Tomes Used[/U][/B] [COLOR=silver]+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3 +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3 +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3 +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3 +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3 +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 3 +2 Tome of Strength 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	Skoodge wrote on Nov 4^th, 2014 at 5:32am: A good joke is like a good recipe. Try using a little less butthurt next time, it throws off the flavor GermanicusMaximus wrote on Aug 17^th, 2014 at 3:52pm: Why thank you, although I needed no affirmation of that fact from anyone, and certainly not from some sad, fat fuck who is a DDO fanboi. Having said that, I am a Time Warner stockholder, and every� bit of profit that can be wrung out of Turbine has a chance of increasing my dividend check. As such, I would encourage you to continue spending money on DDO as you attempt to offset the wretched reality that is your life. Just for your information, not all companies optimize their business operations to maximize current profits. Amazon, for example, is much more interested in increasing its market share at the expense of current profits. You would know these kinds of things if you were anyone who mattered, but clearly you aren't. Now, be a good little fanboi and toddle off to the Turbine forums where you can get your daily dose of Cordo ass kissing done. Hi Welcome
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #3 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 12:43pm	Print Post
	Seems good. Great cleave is no longer needed for OC. Neither is str 23. But Cleave and PA are still needed for mom swing in LD, if you wanted that. I have this build on lama currently : http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1407963021/68#68 Will be doing something like it on live soon as update hits

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #4 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 2:55pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 12:43pm: Seems good. Great cleave is no longer needed for OC. Neither is str 23. But Cleave and PA are still needed for mom swing in LD, if you wanted that. I have this build on lama currently : http://www.ddovault.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1407963021/68#68 Will be doing something like it on live soon as update hits Didnt they say swf and shield feats will be exlusive with upcoming update as well? Downloaded new lam launcher but cant test cuz b...ards closed down


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Shadehater Dropbear Awareness Society Offline Smite Stupid! Posts: 2174 Joined: May 6^th, 2012	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #5 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 2:58pm	Print Post
	No they did not


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Lelouch Shroud Slacker Offline What is a moron? A person playing ddo Posts: 1073 Joined: Apr 19^th, 2014	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #6 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 3:15pm	Print Post
	Pretty sure cordo said smthn when i was talking to him about swasch how its not working as intended to have both feat lines and that they will change it so no more swf +shield feats


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gibbon Dragon Raider Offline smhma in a cube Posts: 256 Joined: Sep 10^th, 2014	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #7 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 10:02pm	Print Post
	B-word sword and orb seems pretty optimal until we get Thunderforged shields. Glancing blows with SWF speed and right now an orb is a shield so you can get bashes out of a TF orb for rolls at mortal fear without losing SWF. Who knows what part of that will stay, though. They seem to forget things like orbs when they make sweeping changes. Also, IDK if anybody has explored what saves you start to make when you take Pally saves and add +11 while blocking. Actively blocking obviously shits the bed. But you could grease a ramp and slide down it through traps. There was the logout bug for a while, so I'm sure they'll introduce some way to make orb saves op. If they ever introduce moving while blocking it's on like donkey kong. And yeah, the saves drop down when tumbling. I don't have the right mix of things to test if you can hang onto them during things like abundant step or cannith rocket boots.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #8 - Sep 25^th, 2014 at 10:06pm	Print Post
	gibbon wrote on Sep 25^th, 2014 at 10:02pm: you can get bashes out of a TF orb whoa, wut? That makes vanguard really good.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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froggy Stormreaver Piker Offline LUDICROUS SPEED GO!!!!!!! Posts: 539 Location: Georgia Joined: Dec 2^nd, 2013 Gender:	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #9 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 1:00am	Print Post
	your first mistake is going bastard sword, knopesh=15-20 x4 multiplier that or heavy pick and 17-20 x5 (khopesh is mathematically better though by 1 ) )

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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #10 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 4:35am	Print Post
	froggy wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 1:00am: your first mistake is going bastard sword, knopesh=15-20 x4 multiplier � that or heavy pick and 17-20 x5� (khopesh is mathematically better though by 1 ) ) No glances. fuck that single target bullshit

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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WelloveLLamas Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 70 Location: Orien Joined: Jun 24^th, 2014	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #11 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 8:52am	Print Post
	Ugh, now i wish the capstone wasnt +4 charisma. Pure pally as highest dps is wronggg. +++ Also, does this mean picking up magical training as a feat to use the orbs, or is there some way around that?
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #12 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 9:41am	Print Post
	WelloveLLamas wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 8:52am: Ugh, now i wish the capstone wasnt +4 charisma. Pure pally as highest dps is wronggg. +++ Also, does this mean picking up magical training as a feat to use the orbs, or is there some way around that? yes. take feat, swap it out after you hit epics w help of fred while they are equipped. worked on lama for me.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Limpgimp Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 278 Joined: Jul 18^th, 2012	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #13 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 11:20am	Print Post
	froggy wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 1:00am: your first mistake is going bastard sword, knopesh=15-20 x4 multiplier � that or heavy pick and 17-20 x5� (khopesh is mathematically better though by 1 ) ) I thought the same, but after I did some calcs, it seems the single target advantage of khopesh is ~7% (1688.31 dps vs 1573.19, DC, some things are not accounted in for convenience) with 2+ targets present BS pulls ahead. Heavy pick is slightly lower even vs single targets, compared to BS. Ironically, I started the calculations to prove that khopesh is better ... Of course there is also a sound possibility that I made mistakes.


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WelloveLLamas Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 70 Location: Orien Joined: Jun 24^th, 2014	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #14 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 12:51pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 9:41am: yes. take feat, swap it out after you hit epics w help of fred while they are equipped. worked on lama for me. That sounds extremley broken, so swapping in epics makes you permanently proficient? Ill have to test it out i guess.


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NOTSunnyshadow Out of Order Offline Kobold remember waterworks! Posts: 2193 Joined: Jan 24^th, 2014	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #15 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 3:41pm	Print Post
	Pure paladin as the strongest dps would be awesome! Capstone should read "You have devoted your life to the cause of the good and the just, and the gods have blessed you as the champion of their cause. Gain stacking +1 crit range and modifier to all weapons you wield, +4 charisma, +4 to saves, you cannot fail on a 1, +20% PRR and MRR, and you get a pink unicorn as a mount."

	En taro Tassadar!
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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #16 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 5:06pm	Print Post
	Limpgimp wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 11:20am: I thought the same, but after I did some calcs, it seems the single target advantage of khopesh is ~7% (1688.31 dps vs 1573.19, DC, some things are not accounted in for convenience) with 2+ targets present BS pulls ahead. Heavy pick is slightly lower even vs single targets, compared to BS. Ironically, I started the calculations to prove that khopesh is better ... Of course there is also a sound possibility that I made mistakes. We had this discussion on lama. I feel I want to be able to glance and proc weapon effects. Even more dps with 7d6 light dmg scaling, 500 on vorpal to undead, mortal fear, etc. WelloveLLamas wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 12:51pm: permanently proficient? Sort of. It allowed me to log out/swap weapons/close client/whatever. But i was not proficient. It allowed me to equip them however. Not sure they could be equipped without magical training, but the not proficient penalty did not make any difference in ee orchard chain, or ee break ranks.
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	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Limpgimp Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 278 Joined: Jul 18^th, 2012	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #17 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 7:02pm	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 5:06pm: We had this discussion on lama. I feel I want to be able to glance and proc weapon effects. Even more dps with 7d6 light dmg scaling, 500 on vorpal to undead, mortal fear, etc. Yes, but we were both arguing based on guesses and impressions. Moreover, I did then some primitive (and wrong) calculus which showed that khopesh was far ahead on single targets. And for some quests, damage on bosses means a lot (e.g. trackers trap and that retarded hp giant). But with only 7% advantage for khopesh, it's no argument that BS would be better in most, if not all the quests. Again, if I didn't messed up something. Also, I didn't account for zeal of the righteous, which favours khopesh, as you don't get glancing blows on doublestrike afaik.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #18 - Sep 26^th, 2014 at 9:05pm	Print Post
	Limpgimp wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 7:02pm: Again, if I didn't messed up something. Also, I didn't account for zeal of the righteous, which favours khopesh, as you don't get glancing blows on doublestrike afaik. I dont think glances proc on dstrike, i'll test again to make sure. The major thing is packs of mobs go down quicker than having to kopesh them down 1 by 1.

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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Limpgimp Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 278 Joined: Jul 18^th, 2012	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #19 - Sep 27^th, 2014 at 5:16am	Print Post
	Rubbinns wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 9:05pm: having to kopesh them down 1 by 1.


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Rubbinns The Undeserving Fuckwit Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 10460 Joined: Sep 4^th, 2013	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #20 - Sep 27^th, 2014 at 5:18am	Print Post
	Limpgimp wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 5:16am: https://i.imgflip.com/cib1e.jpg my cleaves glance ;p

	Mockduck wrote on Aug 30^th, 2010 at 2:20pm: I don't think naming names would be a good thing for me to do, but I'd pretty much add anyone who's a know-it-all dick on the list.� Even if they are sometimes intelligent with their opinions, the way they state them in long, "i'm a lawyer at trial"-type posts makes me want to punch them in the face.� They act like whiney babies with god complexes and then freak out if someone so much as breathes criticism in their direction.
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WelloveLLamas Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 70 Location: Orien Joined: Jun 24^th, 2014	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #21 - Sep 27^th, 2014 at 12:07pm	Print Post
	Btw Rubbins, thinking about it would 2 of an arcane class be a bad choice if you can do without the 4 cha and whatever else capstone gives? 2 wizard gives proficiency with orb. 4 spells (negligible), a free meta (quicken), an extra cleave from EK tree(not sure if this shares a cooldown with the cleave feat), and 10 prr from the improved shield SLA and if you want 1d6 for an element to add to all that extra damage. Been thinking alot about those possibilities, what says you?
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Limpgimp Dragon Raider Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 278 Joined: Jul 18^th, 2012	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #22 - Sep 27^th, 2014 at 12:44pm	Print Post
	Cleave with 15 CD and 10 so cost, which also does shit. Capstone has 10 melee power (+10% to base damage), 1d6 light scalable with mp and weapons of good.


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WelloveLLamas Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 70 Location: Orien Joined: Jun 24^th, 2014	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #23 - Sep 27^th, 2014 at 1:01pm	Print Post
	Right right, 10prr isnt worth the damage. Guess its pure till i farm the new raid to death.


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WelloveLLamas Korthos Resident Offline I Love Drama! Posts: 70 Location: Orien Joined: Jun 24^th, 2014	Re: BF 14/6 PAL/FTR BUILD SWF Reply #24 - Sep 28^th, 2014 at 2:58pm	Print Post
	Just Tr-ed my main into the pure human pally. Going to hopefully stone to 18 and try and get epic tonight. They should hand out lesser hearts at least to fix the feats come monday.


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