ive been trying to find what may be the best split for a swf and twf wolf druid, im really attracted to splits with monk lvls as im a big fan of evasion im attracted to lelouch's post with an
8 druid 6 ranger 6monk split as it manages to fit all the important feats without any fighter levels, in his build tho he states that his saves suck so i was wondering if anyone who has tried swf twf wolf builds could give me any advice as to what they believe would be the best split

I just rolled up a 10Drd/8Ftr/2Rgr to try out, based on another thread on these forums somewhere. It fits in all SWF, TWF, Nat Fighting feats plus Shield Mastery and Imp Shield Mastery.

I took PA and Cleave because I thought Cleave was still a requirement for OC, but have not checked Lam to confirm. Also took Emp Healing and Imp Crit.

I went PDK for the fast start but realized after the fact that I had to change my alignment because PDK start off as LG. Swapped to TN to take my druid levels.

Packfan wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 9:11am:


PDK could be any alignment. LG is the default alignment for any class that can take it, I guess you just didn't pay attention and went with it.

Tried basically the same, except 9/8/3, dps was very nice (tested without shuriken cheese).
Went t5 in defender tree, for the doublestrike attack and str+hp.
Very nice synergy with the new blitz mechanic too (relatively lower damage but lots of attacks). Defense was good too.
Only problem was the lowish saves.
Doublestrike was a bit overkill lol. iirc, with dstrike boost I was getting over 100%.

@Lelouch 13 druid for regenerate is nice, but wasn't able to get all the feats I wanted.
Since you get ram's from druid, I'm really curious why would you want 4th ranger and not 4 ftr for an extra feat and 6str/20% hp

well once u23 goes live next week we can test it all live 4 fighter for the split does seem attractive for 6 strength or percent hp but do you believe that build survivability would be higher without evasion? u23 evasion will be a little weaker due to other non robe wearer's getting mmr

Lelouch wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 1:51pm:

I like nether orb for the slot, healing lore and energy siphon: on hit 60 spell points. Libram is solid too.

nicetrybutimjesus wrote on Sep 26^th, 2014 at 9:21pm:

They dont, only issue is that mettalic property orbs break wolf form aka th forged ones.

I'm thinking 12 Druid/6 Fighter/2 Ranger.

I usually use a Madstone Skull just for the slots.

Limpgimp wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 5:21am:


Will try, like the ideas for orbs.
After up hits live i promised to do a raid with some dudes, so im a mother..... bf monkcher now.
Jesus how i hate this bullcr...
I rage every single quest, every single one i did so far i have managed to rage somewhat.
No idea why people do that crap at all.
I mean i love monkcery since its so freaking easy to play and it can demolish content, but a bf and its height just suck. Picked bf for dual boost and ability to be on dknight duty/possibly tanking. Aka a more important role then usual, but i hate it in solo questing. I shoot over freaking every single thing in this game.
Also will see in planer if i can put smthn, shield feats are a must more or less due to mp, thing i wonder as i didnt manage to properly load lama and when i was able to download new launcher they closed it down of course.
(just my luck as i was busy with work in rl so couldnt play til last week of update round)
First, is there a melle power display?
2nd, do 2handed feats mp work with  for example bastard sword? I know its a 1 hander, but you get grazing hits so i got no idea how that works and is implemented.
From orbs and shield feats you would basically get if im correct the twists dstrike and prr, and from feats alone the melle power and possibly the super low shield bash that i assume doesnt work with wolf form and the dstrike.
Maybe something else that i missed, didnt pay attention to shieldery that much beside that 1 ss on lama where dude posted some 5 k shield bash, i know you didnt get any prr from orbs tho

so swf gives melle power as well?
Hmm, then no point in taking shield mastery at all, waste of 2 feats.
You can basically do a life with those 2 feats, get the twist in sentinel and then etr and just twist it, same principle as when taking magisters school specializations.
Beside possibly slotting devotion in orb, and i assume that met star ruby wouldnt proc either from orb i kinda dont see the point of taking the feats, also that frees up the option of going more druid levels for possible regen as spell
I would prolly use orb for devot tho.
Got a basic idea what i want to do, monday raid then tr to human druid

Orbs are assimilated to bucklers for shield feats.
So from 2 feats and 1 twist you gain 18 doublestrike (3+8+7) and 23 prr (3+5+15), not bad at all imo.
I am pretty sure I was receiving the PRR.

THF feats work for BA and DA, at least outside wolf, in wolf I don't see the reason to take them, I really doubt you can produce glances with wolf (although I didn't test), and the MP from combat styles doesn't stack.

when you where talkin about a 13d 4r 3f split lelouch i was wondering why the 4 ranger and not 4 fighter for extra feat and 6 extra strength where the 4 ranger for the lvl 4 req stuff in tempest tree?

Limpgimp wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 2:16pm:

Ah I have no idea about Lam, but that would be sweet. Even more PRR monday!

nicetrybutimjesus wrote on Sep 27^th, 2014 at 2:04pm:

Yes that was based on the want to have killer and try out tempest 4 new revamped things idea, but im assuming that i will most prolly drop them.
It depends on cd and how long the burst damage is, issue i had with tempest line was that i managed couple times to bug out the tree to provide the benefits while swf-ing, so i dont know what my feelings toward that is.
It is apsolutely the same as monk stances, i managed to be dual stanced for a while having full benefits of water/earth stance, but i dont know how to reproduce that bug, even tho i have a screenie with proof of that.
But assuming i drop ranger to only 2 levels, split would be
something like 10 druid 8 fighter 2 ranger. but im leaning toward something like 13 druid 4fighter 3 ranger due to tempest 10% offstrike that oddly worked for me while swf-ing, i dont personally think the dstrike on shield feats is worth it, if they provided prr and some mrr with orbs then they would be a no brainer.
If the prr/mrr doesnt apply (prr now on live doesnt), if the mp doesnt stack then you would pick 2 feats for a dstrike increase on a nearly dstrike maxed build.
I personally see that as opportunity to go for better selfheals via more druid levels, or by picking more important feats.
2 feats is alot imo

But as said, monday raid time, and couple tests with iconics, then making over a nearly triple all completionist cheese druid again for total demolition.

Since i played a druid last time, i just feel like every other single thing in the game is weak.. Is it just me?