CosmicCharlie wrote on Jan 16^th, 2015 at 1:58am:

Trees could twitch fight in the past...

Teth wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2015 at 12:22pm:


First thing I notice is no cleric lvls.  Are you keeping spirit ticks up with just death aura or did you find another method that works equally as well as the healing aura?

Teth wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2015 at 3:35pm:


Nice, I am going to try this next.  I have been playing modified tree builds for iconic/heroic past lives.  Was getting a little tired of the tier 5 cleric all the time.  This should be fun!

Teth wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2015 at 3:35pm:


Im surprised it took someone else so long to agree with me about wiz levels!

I ended up settling on 8wiz, 6fighter, 6barb. The extra feats allowed a for a lot.

i might come back to this game specifically to play as a tree.

Munkenmo wrote on Jan 22^nd, 2015 at 6:39pm:


I played around on live as a cleric/wiz/monk tree to test spirit income from both sources.
Thing is, with death aura alone and consecration, you dont have enough spirit income, with cleric alone you have enough spirit.
The offensive ticks act weird, cant sustain tree with it.
With both cleri and wizz you have perma tree, issue with that was everythin else was crappy and the duration of aura is incredibly short on a 7-8 wiz split and the loss of sp is enormous.
IT is a good build for short paced quests but for longer duration ones its horrifuckin bad.

Simply put, daura really isnt good esp when  you count in extend and quicken as metas.
I got all sp plifes and gear and the sp melted to fast for my taste.
On paper it looks good, but in practice fucus on daura is horrible, esp if you count in the fact that you want to recast that displace as well.
Also keep in mind that with barb split you cant get multi whirlwind strike.
What you lose with that split is saves dodge hp and dps.

Please tell me how can that be called good.
So far monk palie cleric pulls ahead as best split due to spirit regen and it being the best defense/offense oriented split

bob the builder wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 2:02pm:

They will not yet. Build is too hard for idiots like qhualor to use properly and that limits how powerful they perceive them to be. I mean have you seen his barbs? It will only start when someone posts a youtube vid or submits a record of it. The creator was smart in that they didnt post in that thread ;p

Teth wrote on Jan 23^rd, 2015 at 3:34pm:

In case death aura had a way to work properly so that you can sustain it, and manage your sp bar in that regard /which is purely impossible trust me, try doing wgu and you wont make it til shrine without abusing eross bauble and stacks of sp pots/ i would prolly stick to some kind Monk/wiz/palie build, the dps loss from whirlwind at least to me is a bit to much, once you stack up dstrike the off hand procs with the possilbe 8 hit straight out beats sup cleave.

Big issue is that you need a full time enemy surround from aura to get spirit so you go into fight with 0 spirit unless you spam heal pots scrolls and whatever, i mean you could be in zomb form and get spirit while in non tree, but that just seems plainly stupid imo

Also that way you could pick violent beg violence which would be far more synergetic with selfdisplace super high ac from eldritch mage armor and maxed dodge imo.

But again, issue is the sp bar and the short buffs so it becomes more annoying then anything to play it.
And no matter the play experience, you cant bypass the fact that sp bar is to low and that its not that good as the initial build monk cleri palie.
I tried and tried really hard to make it work on that test build.
I managed to solo ee vons and some high tier ees totally underleveld, but the sp bar and buff handling was to annoying and requires to many resources to be pulled off.
If you are ok with sp pot spam in longer quests then the freedom of picking a better t5 is handy, i personally would go for monk one since its extremely good on tree in case violent works at i think it does

SayWhatAgain wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 4:34am:


1. Yes
2. imo yes, but the defences of  their own weren't enough,  its supreme cleave, tantrum and barbs extra dps that make the trade off acceptable.
3. No, you can get glancing blows though.
4. Yes, lay waste works, but momentum swing doesn't, thus rendering both useless.

SayWhatAgain wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 4:34am:


Yes, death aura yields 2 ticks, so its easy to toggle the form on after killing a huge pack.

Hard to say for whirlwind.  On the variant I tested on Lammania I noticed 2-3 strikes.  It's clearly not as good as the monk variant, however supreme cleave can triple strike, and it did so about 75% of the time with the build, rest were 2 strikes.  Throw in great cleave the doublestrikes a lot as well.  I think the amount of cleaves procs work themselves out in the long run, however the monk one has a higher base damage than the barb variant.  But now you get to factor in melee power and the 10% extra crit range for your tree attacks.

Also lay waste works but cooldown is very long and momentum swing did not work in tree form.

Lelouch wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 2:17pm:


What about Empty Hand Mastery, would that increase the damage die? or would it just make out of form be 1d8, and in form 1d20?

Lelouch wrote on Jan 25^th, 2015 at 2:17pm:


I think only one of your attacks (first one) during whirlwind will benefit from extended crit range (violence begets violence).