Death Aura should work against mobs to get ticks. But healing aura works when there arent any mobs so downtime is less.

Undead form does not work in druid forms. Exclusive.

I tried somethings back on my swashbuckler in tree form. SWF and haste with haste boost didnt seem to increase tree attack speed to anything noticeable. This is where cleaves come in. One thing is they hit numbers of mobs and your tree can attack as fast as your cleaves are off timers. Including monk ki attacks. Monk speeds also help with slow tree run speed.

If lama were up we could branstorm and test everything.

Lelo could you try alpha strike and dance death on your build then report findings here, please?

Anyone on a wizard could test death aura and see if it builds spirit easily enough?

Another thing, exploit weakness doesnt work while in druid forms. That isnt feasible. Violence Begets Violence works, but that is tier 5.

What's the cooldown on Tantrum?  Frenzied Berserker looks like it may offer 2 cleaves in the one tree.

Focused Wrath would also be great in woad form.

Rubbinns wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 12:34am:


CLW can be cast every 2 seconds, CMW can be cast every 3 seconds, you get only 1-2 spirits every 3 seconds.

Why i suggested ranger was cuz of the sla from tree, lesser vigor, it should act as incrementer for healing part.
But you get limited uses hmm..
Will try alpha and dance tho

Lelouch wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 5:07am:

The top dps version would have both whirlwind and alpha strike to hit 4 times with each attack.

Lelouch wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 5:07am:

Consecrated ground can be cast while in tree form. It is 2 twists, but other than lay on hands or healing aura, it is a viable way to heal yourself anytime.

Alpha strike doesn't work in tree form.
Not in actual practice.

SayWhatAgain wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 6:21pm:


Cool, in that case i'd go: Fighter, Barb, Wiz = Whirlwind, cleave, great cleave, supreme cleave, Eldritch Strike & Tantrum.

I'd pick up t5 in frenzied berserker cause I think tantrum is a cleave. (has anyone tested this yet?)

Helf: 6fighter/8wiz/6barb (elf for arcane fluidity)
Feats:
7 Heroic: dodge, mobility, spring attack, whirlwind, CE, ICrit, Improved trip (it's a pre req for tantrum in frenzied berserker)
4 fighter: Power attack, cleave, great cleave, 2HF
2 wiz: Quicken, Extend.
3 epic:  OC, I2HF, G2HF
2 ED: P2WF, P2HF

Rubbinns wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 6:49pm:


Precisely.

I tried different weapon combo's before going tree as well just to check (no weapons, wraps, swf, twf) and still in tree form I kept getting the same error message.

Lelouch wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 3:47am:


Monk may be a must have.
Unarmed combat is currently the only fighting style that enables whirlwind to hit everything around you several times (for any other fighting style it is awful). Couldn't test and see if tree whirlwind mechanic is independent of wraps and unarmed combat since my only toon with whirlwind is a retired 16/2/2 monk.

The trouble with Druid heals over time is that you don't get spirits from those unless your toon is injured and being healed by them. You want your spirits to stack up between fights and can't comfortably do that with heals over time though supreme cleave with the 3 sec cd is an option as well as equipping 2 uncleansed gs items (latter is far from ideal).

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Question isn't wether whirlwind works in tree due to monk levels or not. The question is wether whirlwind in tree works the same way as it does for unarmed combat (hits everything around you 4-5 times b4 double strike) and not like the other fighting styles (that spin you around twice but hit everything once).

Can you confirm that it does or doesn't?

gibbon wrote on Oct 21^st, 2014 at 3:38am:

SayWhatAgain wrote on Oct 22^nd, 2014 at 4:37am:

How much fun would it be to work a Golem Heart into this setup? Kind of like a poor man's Consecrate, kludged together with False Life.

Edit: Or that shitty Bliss in Radiant Servant. Or Aid. Or if you take Eldritch Tempest, just add Eldritch Shield.

You could also use the Pale Master SLAs to keep your HP less than full, even if you can't be an undead tree.

Damn, these ideas are shitty. But I'm having fun thinking them up anyway   The ultimate "WTF would you do that?" build.

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Interesting. That could in theory allow a substitute for monk splashing. However, the ki attacks are very useful they can hit up to 3 times in wolf form and 4 times as human. Might be that they can triplestrike in tree form with g2wf and enough doublestrike?

The other thing is that the ki attacks give trees an attack when cleave, grt cleave and whirlwind are on cooldown and do not require an AP or feat payment.

Monks also increase the (w) of trees. An extra 6 or so 1d20s is no small thing.